Ever try to explain to someone how to build Sculpties in Maya, build in-world or work in Photoshop by typing? You end up with some really sore wrists!!
Voice works great for instructional stuff, except for Scripting.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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06-21-2007 06:54
Even though I'm for Voice, I'd have to say No. There's times it will be useful, but in general no.
Ever try to explain to someone how to build Sculpties in Maya, build in-world or work in Photoshop by typing? You end up with some really sore wrists!! Voice works great for instructional stuff, except for Scripting. |
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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06-21-2007 07:40
I dun plan on using voice at all. I especially dun wanna hafta listen to it.
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jlarrym Jua
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Join date: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 22
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06-21-2007 07:42
I would listen to someone speaking in a teaching or lecturing situation. I think I would not use it otherwise.
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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06-21-2007 07:48
No. For a variety of "Excuses" Mostly now,just to be obstinant towards those who get their panties in a bunch over people not wanting to use it. This way it removes a whole bunch of people who weren't worth my time in the first place. PS Just for the record I am not one of the Voice is the end of the world crowd. It will be a useful feature to those that want it. Just not for me. Its not really that voice is the end of the world .. But it will be the straw that broke the camels back for some people. They will just get tired of expalining themselves and losing freinds .. and they will log in less and less. They will find something else to keep them busy and eventually will basically just leave. --------------------- Well see, but I think this will be happening. No one wants big chunks of the world they used to enjoy to be aggrivations. |
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Mortus Allen
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Join date: 28 Apr 2007
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06-21-2007 07:49
Those that go to Plum will hear me use voice some times, I am not afraid of it as I use it through Ventrilo, a lot of the time with my Guild Wars guild reguardless of being on Guild Wars. That being said, I can't use both Ventrilo and SL Voice as the same time, they don't even coexist if I have voice enabled to listen to people. So my vote is No.
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Bodie Bosch
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Join date: 11 Dec 2006
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06-21-2007 08:00
Used and abused it since the beta test made it to the live grid - and I love it. :3 Though, putting up with the wannabee voice griefers is a quick chore of finding and activating mute for a moment's rest. Thankfully their aparent and percieved wit doesn't translate well into their version of the spoken language - voice being their ultimate undoing. But otherwise, my friends and I are constantly nattering on in V-chat and love it. Made some new friends I would not have otherwise made if I remained "silent". To each their own I guess, but V-chat FTW for me. ;3
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Sling Trebuchet
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Join date: 20 Jan 2007
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06-21-2007 08:24
I don't think so. I tried it on beta and found it immediately wrecked the immersive nature of SL. I was no longer Kelly Kuiper exploring this extraordinary world but Kelly (real name) talking to someone on my PC with SL as a backdrop. Subtle difference and perhaps impossible to explain to many people - certainly those outside SL. I'm in two minds though. I do feel like having it on for gender verification; I just don't like the idea of people assuming I'm male in rl if I don't use it. On the other hand, I know that there a lot of females who will refuse to use it. Justifiably, they consider that if anyone won't talk to them because they refuse to use voice (and assume they're a guy because of that), then they're not worth talking to anyway. In using voice to verify gender, I'm possibly pandering to those people and making it more difficult for other females. Does that make sense?! hmmmmmm Someone pressures me to verify my gender.. They are implying that they want to have sex with my avatar ... provided... and/or They are implying that they wish to progress to RL ... provided ... "Hey slow down! We've only just met. What makes you think that *I* would be at all interested in sex with *you*?" Gross ! "Oh, you *don't* want to have sex with me? You're just insecure in general? Well, have a nice day!" |
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Cherry Czervik
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Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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06-21-2007 08:28
The majority of my communication is with people who I Skype with or know RL (largely the same thing) and especially my partner. So the majority of my communication IS through voice ... only difference is that it won't be lagged up by Skype.
Other people? Naww. Prolly not with other people. _____________________
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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06-21-2007 08:33
hmmmmmm Someone pressures me to verify my gender.. They are implying that they want to have sex with my avatar ... provided... and/or They are implying that they wish to progress to RL ... provided ... "Hey slow down! We've only just met. What makes you think that *I* would be at all interested in sex with *you*?" Gross ! "Oh, you *don't* want to have sex with me? You're just insecure in general? Well, have a nice day!" What's all this about gender verification? My female alt has a pair of massive tits - is that not verification enough? (actually, they're not that big - slider 67 infact). _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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Join date: 4 Jun 2007
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06-21-2007 08:36
I hope to see all online games using this sort of voice chat to reduce the need for VOIP programs like TeamSpeak or Ventrillo. Simpler is better and having this sort of function built right into the client is just plain cool! And useful. And in keeping with the direction other newer games (LotROnline, Battlefield 2 and others) are moving. By including voice communication LL is laying the groundwork for much better RP than could EVER be accomplished through chat.
This is cool and I'm glad it's coming. _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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06-21-2007 08:36
What's all this about gender verification? My female alt has a pair of massive tits - is that not verification enough? (actually, they're not that big - slider 67 infact). ?? I'm confused. _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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06-21-2007 08:39
hmmmmmm Someone pressures me to verify my gender.. They are implying that they want to have sex with my avatar ... provided... and/or They are implying that they wish to progress to RL ... provided ... "Hey slow down! We've only just met. What makes you think that *I* would be at all interested in sex with *you*?" Gross ! "Oh, you *don't* want to have sex with me? You're just insecure in general? Well, have a nice day!" Or maybe some people don't want to start having a relationship (of ANY sort) with a person who passively lies about their gender? I think it's a bit (not much, just a bit) twisted to be the opposite gender in SL. I know people who do it and some of them are great people, but I'm aware of (and a bit confused by) their genderplay. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-21-2007 08:44
Or maybe some people don't want to start having a relationship (of ANY sort) with a person who passively lies about their gender? I think it's a bit (not much, just a bit) twisted to be the opposite gender in SL. I know people who do it and some of them are great people, but I'm aware of (and a bit confused by) their genderplay. I guess then , people pretending to be Dragons or Elves or Furries or Vampires are a bit twisted as well? (Ok, I'll give you the Vampires).  _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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06-21-2007 08:45
No serious business would hold a sensitive meeting in SL where typed chat is floating around unencrypted (never mind logged by LL or recordable by anyone/any prim within 20m) outside of their own corporate network, or use a voice technology that can easily be eavesdropped on. Businesses do have meetings other than sensitive, right? _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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06-21-2007 08:50
I guess then , people pretending to be Dragons or Elves or Furries or Vampires are a bit twisted as well? (Ok, I'll give you the Vampires). All the time? Yeah, I feel that's a bit left of center and I don't understand that either. Maybe not so much elves (since they do have gender which closely resembles human) and dragons, well that's just annoying (the only dragons I've seen have been large and laggy). I was talking mostly about people who are clearly identifying themselves (through the player's name, their actions, their mannerisms, etc.) as being the opposite gender from what they are. I'm sure there's a million and one reasons for it; but at the moment I don't understand what prompts this behavior and so (not understanding it) I view it as twisted. _____________________
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Sonia Nagy
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Join date: 25 Mar 2007
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06-21-2007 08:53
It really is not practical for me. I also have no desire to use any part of my RL Self in the grid. It seems to me that it detracts from the over-all appeal of the experience. I think it's a good idea for those that want to use it, but it's not for me. Andy Not practical for me, as I'm partially deaf (sometimes I feel like I'm in a wind tunnel and all I hear is the sound of wind . . . and my ears hurt on these occasions; most times I can hear some sound, though, just not always clearly). _____________________
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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06-21-2007 08:54
?? I'm confused. What about? I have a female alt, which I mentionned earlier in this thread. My point is, the avatar is the one you're talking to, so the person behind the keyboard is irrelevant. My avatar is female, the fact that I am not is neither here nor there. _____________________
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Kitty Barnett
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Join date: 10 May 2006
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06-21-2007 08:55
Introduce someone who's gender paranoid to someone who's transgendered (and open about it) and have them chat on voice for a while.
Then ask the transgendered person to explain and listen to the gender paranoid individual try to wrap their head around the fact and just plain freak out. Cruel, but fun .Everyone has enough vocal range to convincingly sound like the opposite sex without any need for voice changing software, all it takes is time and practice. Just because it quacks like a duck, doesn't necessarily make it a duck in this case . |
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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06-21-2007 08:55
Or maybe some people don't want to start having a relationship (of ANY sort) with a person who passively lies about their gender? I think it's a bit (not much, just a bit) twisted to be the opposite gender in SL. I know people who do it and some of them are great people, but I'm aware of (and a bit confused by) their genderplay. No one is lying. As stated, a female avatar is female - regardless of who is doing the typing. You're inability to understand that avatars are not extensions of ourselves but merely characters we play in a soap opera is the cause of your confusion. _____________________
hateful much? dude, that was low. die. . |
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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06-21-2007 08:57
All the time? Yeah, I feel that's a bit left of center and I don't understand that either. Maybe not so much elves (since they do have gender which closely resembles human) and dragons, well that's just annoying (the only dragons I've seen have been large and laggy). I was talking mostly about people who are clearly identifying themselves (through the player's name, their actions, their mannerisms, etc.) as being the opposite gender from what they are. I'm sure there's a million and one reasons for it; but at the moment I don't understand what prompts this behavior and so (not understanding it) I view it as twisted. GAH!! Why can't you just understand and get it into your thick head!! No one is pretending to be anything they're not!! We're not "identifying" ourselves any gender - our avatars are just being what they are!!! _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-21-2007 08:58
All the time? Yeah, I feel that's a bit left of center and I don't understand that either. Maybe not so much elves (since they do have gender which closely resembles human) and dragons, well that's just annoying (the only dragons I've seen have been large and laggy). I was talking mostly about people who are clearly identifying themselves (through the player's name, their actions, their mannerisms, etc.) as being the opposite gender from what they are. I'm sure there's a million and one reasons for it; but at the moment I don't understand what prompts this behavior and so (not understanding it) I view it as twisted. Congratulations. Best case of overgeneralization and alienation in the shortest amount of time I've seen.  _____________________
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Diskatopia Paine
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Join date: 21 Jun 2007
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06-21-2007 08:59
I don't think I will need voice much myself, but when the ultimate big SL capitalistic/commercialistic realization hits -- IF LL ever gets to that point or has the ability, legally and monetarily, to let it happen on a major* or even ultimate scale-- among RL companies, retailers, websites, etc., that "browsing" and online shopping can be taken to a new, MUCH higher level ... well, I can see that future salesclerks on the, say, SL Amazon.com island(s) may like the option of going-to-voice with customers in order to assist them
* as i am want to say lately-- SL could be "the one ring to rule them all" (i.e., "the internets" if that's the path LL takes ... when's the IPO |
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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06-21-2007 09:00
All the time? Yeah, I feel that's a bit left of center and I don't understand that either. Maybe not so much elves (since they do have gender which closely resembles human) and dragons, well that's just annoying (the only dragons I've seen have been large and laggy). I was talking mostly about people who are clearly identifying themselves (through the player's name, their actions, their mannerisms, etc.) as being the opposite gender from what they are. I'm sure there's a million and one reasons for it; but at the moment I don't understand what prompts this behavior and so (not understanding it) I view it as twisted. Stop identifying yourself as being named "Merovigan Koba". I'm pretty certain that's not your real name, therefore you are a liar and I brand you as twisted. Freak. _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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06-21-2007 09:02
No one is lying. As stated, a female avatar is female - regardless of who is doing the typing. You're inability to understand that avatars are not extensions of ourselves but merely characters we play in a soap opera is the cause of your confusion. Well, I guess I want to know more than just a bunch of alter egos then. I'd like to connect with the people behind the keyboards through their avatars, not have my avatar meet their avatar. For you, your avatar is not an extension of yourself. For me, it is. Neither of us is wrong, regardless of where the majority opinion lays. I'm not confused; but my attitude does invite confusion, just like pretending you're a woman when you're actually a man does. I guess a good question would be; which of our views is more reasonable; to expect that an avatar is wholely divorced from the person doing the typing (which is impossible since you only have the experience of your own gender) or to expect that people would act online as they act in RL (at least when it relates to their gender). _____________________
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Merovigan Koba
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06-21-2007 09:02
Stop identifying yourself as being named "Merovigan Koba". I'm pretty certain that's not your real name, therefore you are a liar and I brand you as twisted. Freak. Heh, but it DOES relate to me, my viewpoints, and my interests. It's what is known as an "alias". _____________________
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