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How old does my avatar need to look to have sex?

Nepenthes Ixchel
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05-12-2007 07:43
How old does my avatar need to look to have sex? I'm not sure which country's laws are being used, so I don't know if it's 21, 18, 16, 13 or one of the many other ages of consent from around the world. I just know I'll get banned if I look too young.

Does anyone know what the age cutoff is?
Aleister Montgomery
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05-12-2007 07:56
Well, in Germany it's legal for a 16-18 year old to have sex with another 16-18 year old. As soon as one of them turns 19, it's child abuse. Since german laws seem to apply now on the grid (for now, until the next country complains about another issue), it might be safe to go by that rule. Hm... what about two child avatars playing doctor games? Could that be illegal?

It's all such an incredible nonsense, being forced to care about such things in a virtual world.
Wrom Morrison
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05-12-2007 07:59
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
How old does my avatar need to look to have sex? I'm not sure which country's laws are being used, so I don't know if it's 21, 18, 16, 13 or one of the many other ages of consent from around the world. I just know I'll get banned if I look too young.

Does anyone know what the age cutoff is?


It's very common to confuse age of consent with something like this (hell pedophiles do it all the time on myspace?).

If you go the mainpage and look at what it says the age for SL is, I'm sure you'd have realized SL is 18+. How can anyone not have seen this?

As for what you want to look like? Why would you do something like that? You want to look like a 13 year old ? Just cause it's age of consent in some country? What has that got to do with SL and what has that got to do with you pretending to be some other age. Major confusion here. I suggestion you eat a banana instead.
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Aleister Montgomery
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05-12-2007 08:05
From: Wrom Morrison
If you go the mainpage and look at what it says the age for SL is, I'm sure you'd have realized SL is 18+. How can anyone not have seen this?


That is out of question. But who judges the age of avatars? 90% of all SL females look like barely 18 to me, perhaps younger. There are no wrinkles on skin textures. No one would want to have crow's feet. Without those subtle signs of age, there could always be someone (like a curious reporter looking for the next big scandal) who judges my SL partner's avatars as being 16 or 17, even if they intended to look older.
Atashi Yue
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05-12-2007 09:55
From: Wrom Morrison
It's very common to confuse age of consent with something like this (hell pedophiles do it all the time on myspace?).

If you go the mainpage and look at what it says the age for SL is, I'm sure you'd have realized SL is 18+. How can anyone not have seen this?

As for what you want to look like? Why would you do something like that? You want to look like a 13 year old ? Just cause it's age of consent in some country? What has that got to do with SL and what has that got to do with you pretending to be some other age. Major confusion here. I suggestion you eat a banana instead.


Maybe they do want to look younger. It's their SL, not yours.
Daniel Regenbogen
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05-12-2007 09:56
From: Aleister Montgomery
Well, in Germany it's legal for a 16-18 year old to have sex with another 16-18 year old. As soon as one of them turns 19, it's child abuse. Since german laws seem to apply now on the grid (for now, until the next country complains about another issue), it might be safe to go by that rule. Hm... what about two child avatars playing doctor games? Could that be illegal?

It's all such an incredible nonsense, being forced to care about such things in a virtual world.


Actually, legal age in Germany is 14. From 14 on the only restriction is, that if an adult is involved he can't be one of the responsible persons for the teen, like teacher, coach or something like that.
Chris Norse
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05-12-2007 10:12
A sex themed nursing home! Skins with wrinkles and age spots!!!!!!!!! Prunes and pudding for all!


I smell a gold mine in the making!



Errrr wait would they pull out elder abuse laws?

Ok, no BDSM!!!!!!!!! Just old folks on pose balls!
poopmaster Oh
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05-12-2007 13:22
As George Bush Sr Used to say "I Like my women like my whiskey, 12 years old...."
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Winter Ventura
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05-12-2007 13:28
who determines how old my avatar looks?
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Robot Foxley
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05-12-2007 13:32
From: poopmaster Oh
As George Bush Sr Used to say "I Like my women like my whiskey, 12 years old...."


...ew...

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I don't know if I could tell the difference between a 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 year old avatar. Every avatar I have ever seen looks like they are in their early twenties. (Other than rare exceptions where the avatar looks like a child, old man, or middle aged) My advice is that if you are having carefree sex on the grid, make sure your avatar does not look like a child.
Nina Stepford
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05-12-2007 14:23
it seems most female avs are around 6'3 to 6'5, so at 5'4 i look child-like. so i also wonder about this.
Kenn Nilsson
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05-12-2007 14:32
I would say that the only appropriate manner for determining the "age" of an avatar is if the avatar has declared an "age" in their profile for said avatar.

Of course...that will be considered absolutely outrageous and unacceptable by some. But who are YOU to tell me how old I am? In RL I'm often thought to be a good 7 years younger than I actually am...
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Susie Boffin
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05-12-2007 14:36
I am 5'3" in SL (I'm even shorter in FL) and if someone thinks that short height equals a child then they need to lower their 7 feet height or just plain don't look at me. I have about had it with the do gooders and busybodies in SL.
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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05-12-2007 15:45
It can't be hight based, because I know adults in RL that are about four foot tool due to genetic disorders. They are not mentally handicapped in any way though and are certainly capable of providing informed consent to sex.

And going through my avatar list I have another problem: how the heck do you figure out age for non-humans? If elves live for centuries then it stands to reason they look child-like for longer than humans do. And what about furries... the basic luskwood AVs look underage to me before they get edited, but what is the age of consent for a puppy dog? They certainly don't wait 18 years to do it.
Tegg Bode
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05-12-2007 15:55
From: Chris Norse
A sex themed nursing home! Skins with wrinkles and age spots!!!!!!!!! Prunes and pudding for all!

I smell a gold mine in the making!

Errrr wait would they pull out elder abuse laws?

Ok, no BDSM!!!!!!!!! Just old folks on pose balls!

Hmm nope sounds like ageplay, illegal :P
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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05-12-2007 17:29
From: Tegg Bode
Hmm nope sounds like ageplay, illegal :P



Germany bans depictions of children in sex acts, not any sex with an age difference.

But no-one has any idea what is or isn't allowed in SL right now, other than "young avatars can't have sex, with avatar age to be determined by sensationalist German media"



What if my character is 7 years old, but physically looks 18?
RobbyRacoon Olmstead
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05-12-2007 17:52
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
four foot tool


No way. That has to be a prosthetic.


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Elinah Iredell
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05-12-2007 18:08
From: Susie Boffin
I am 5'3" in SL (I'm even shorter in FL) and if someone thinks that short height equals a child then they need to lower their 7 feet height or just plain don't look at me. I have about had it with the do gooders and busybodies in SL.



I am 5'6 in sl which is 3 inches taller than my real height in rl so by my standards I look tall, even if others are much taller. Also I am a mermaid that gets legs on land and so what is my age? Mermaids live for centuries I am told.

Elinah
Jig Chippewa
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05-12-2007 18:36
I am five seven in SL. To make myself look older I have decided to make my breasts sag - just a teeny bit - well if you look closely you can see a slight alteration due to gravity. But my partner noticed immediately - "Have you changed the shape of your nose? What happened to your breasts??" I must say I am tired of 9 foot avitars with goofy faces who look like the Muppet Porker Film Stars (Pork Loin?) My partner looks like a raunchy Keith Richard on a bad day.
Colette Meiji
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05-12-2007 19:11
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
How old does my avatar need to look to have sex? I'm not sure which country's laws are being used, so I don't know if it's 21, 18, 16, 13 or one of the many other ages of consent from around the world. I just know I'll get banned if I look too young.

Does anyone know what the age cutoff is?


I think the answer is "You have to look plausably 18 and didnt say you were under 18"

Thus you could probably look 15 as long as a reasonble person might think you COULD be 18.

The Age cuttoff for what age you can roleplay for sex is definitely 18. Thats was stated in the notecard rules.

Thats just my opinion - But for an avatar theres not alot of difference between 14 and 30 , really. Grown women have all sorts of figures IRL, including flat chested , skinny and short.

I certainly hope LL doesnt start policing minimum height, bust and waist sizes .. that would be crazy. Not to mention igrnoring reality.
Francesca Alva
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05-12-2007 23:50
From: Susie Boffin
I am 5'3" in SL (I'm even shorter in FL) and if someone thinks that short height equals a child then they need to lower their 7 feet height or just plain don't look at me. I have about had it with the do gooders and busybodies in SL.


Absolutely, Susie! I'm 5' in SL and RL and I'm sick of being asked if I have a kid av. SL is an adult environment where only adults are allowed. If there are RL children playing here that's the fault of LL's non-verification policy (oh that magic million!) and the responsibility of RL parents.
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Aleister Montgomery
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05-13-2007 01:04
From: Daniel Regenbogen
Actually, legal age in Germany is 14. From 14 on the only restriction is, that if an adult is involved he can't be one of the responsible persons for the teen, like teacher, coach or something like that.


That's news for me. Well, I guess things have changed a bit during the last 20 years, since the matter was of personal interest for me.
mcgeeb Gupte
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05-13-2007 01:52
For some reason I watched the video on the YouTube from the German media and some of the kid avatars actually were just short avatars to me and the only reason they maybe looked like kids was the height. I never wanted to be tall in SL, wanted to be normal.
Ravey Stein
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05-13-2007 02:09
the whole thing seems a little over the top to me.
i don't see the germans going after japan for all of the anime they release each year that over glorify the underage school girl (or maybe they are?). as this is an online interface, we should be able to choose how we represent ourselves whether it be male, female, old, young, animal, dwarf, elf, etc.. age verification should be left to the parents of the children. responsibility should be in their hands, not in ours. just seems a bit ridiculous to me. oh well.

-ravey

(just some poorly formed thoughts on the subject, it's late.)
alice Pinkerton
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05-13-2007 02:39
I am guessing that you will have to use a little common sense on this one.

If LL have made it a bannable offence to engage in sex with children, then I would suggest you try not to look like a child?

But aside from all the "confusion"...(which to be honest, I really dont believe exists).... if you are in second life with the intention of having child sex.. It sounds like you are in the wrong place. Use common sense and maturity when making your decisions based on the age of your avatar.

Its not as difficult as people are making it out to be.
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