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Brenda Connolly

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08-06-2007 14:35

From: Kascha Matova

Wow yes! Great observation!

I actually can't stand it when people text me rather than talking when they are communicating by phone. I purchased my phone with the intention of talking. I did not buy a phone looking for a typewriter or IM unit.

I have several friends that refuse to call and talk on the phone, preferring to text me over and over again to my dismay. Even after I have told them repeatedly that I do not want to receive 30 text alerts for a three sentence conversation, they persist. So I ignore all text messaging, and as a result, have not had conversations with some people in some time.

Point is, I expect to *talk* on the phone. I don't want phone text shoved down my throat just because everybody's doing it. If I wanted to read conversations I would use e-mail. Similarly, if I wanted to voice chat I would pick up the phone.

Me too. I refuse to answer text messages. (Well when I had a cell phone anyway, mine went belly up last month). And when I'm with someone else who is constantly texting, I find it very rude.

An interesting dynamic in this debate is the belief (by a few) that one side of the argument is "The Truth" while the opposing view is merely opinion.

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Ceera Murakami

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08-06-2007 14:40

As I aid earlier, initially we shut off Voice sim-wide in the new private residential sim that I live in. We polled our residents, and 2/3 of the households in the sim, including the sim owner, immediately agreed they wanted nothing to do with Voice, as did several members in the remaining household who we spoke to.

But one couple in the third household, which owns about 1/3 of the sim, recently decided they did want Voice. Or to be specific, a master wants his his slave to use it when doing RP with him. So Voice is now on, but they will use a private parcel channel for Voice, not the Estate channel, so it's restricted to only their parcel. They also know that no one else in the sim will be using Voice, so I doubt it will cause any friction. It will just be for private use between that couple.

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Waterstar Eilde

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08-06-2007 19:42

Not now, not ever.

Porsha Moran

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08-06-2007 21:35

Haven't tried it myself yet, but it's on at my club for those who want to use it. Haven't had any problems or complaints.

Sophie Katsu

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08-06-2007 23:18

It's enabled on our land for our club but I don't plan on using it myself as the norm.

One of the things I've always enjoyed about gaming (7 years + on EverQuest before dropping it for SL) is the peace and solitude of being able to play and not have to talk, talk, talk. I tried Teamspeak and Ventrilo while on EQ and it was stupid. People talked about things that had nothing at all to do with EQ. What's the fun in that? Why play a game if RL is going to be brought into it constantly? Like someone said in another post...I hear enough voice in RL. I do love to be in google voice with my SL husband though but we talk about SL.

Anyway, for now, it's on for those who enjoy it. Haven't received any complaints about it yet. No problems that I know of so far. I haven't downloaded it yet because of things I've read about the interface.

As far as those business owners thinking customers will try to talk to them, aren't we non-voicers going to have the red dot of rebellion over our heads so everyone will know to bug off and leave us alone?

I honestly don't think voicers are going to mind texting too. If SL does decide to ditch this voice idea, people who really want it for their clubs and other businesses or for a group of friends can just get Teamspeak or Ventrilo and can talk wherever they want, not just in some sims and not in others. Big businesses who have in-game meetings too can do the same. There are lots of multi-user chat programs out there.

Brenda Connolly

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08-07-2007 04:57

I have to add that If I had business land or land that had tenants I would enable it there and let people choose whether to use it or not.

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Sue Saintlouis

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08-07-2007 12:51

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Hi Sue

As someone who occasionally attends events at Sue's club, I am happy to read this. I am not anti-voice. But one of my major concerns about voice is that I frequent a lot of dance clubs and live SL music events (I'm at one right now, a Reggae singer as I play hookie from work) and I don't want to hear the voice chatter drown out the music.

Hope to see you at another one of your events soon Sue. I've just kind of turned into this live SL music groupie.

Hey Jessica!

Come on over any time

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Just FYI, you can turn down the voice volume to where you don't hear it at all, which allows you to enjoy the music even if someone happens to talk. I think that LL did give us many options with the various volume sliders. Also, you can temporarily turn off voice in Preferences. Then, you would appear as a non-voice Avatar, and you would not hear any of the voice chat.

On another note, I think that voice will be very useful in educational events. Already, just to teach friends how to do something, it has been much easier than to type a bunch of instructions.

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08-07-2007 12:55

From: Brenda Connolly

I have to add that If I had business land or land that had tenants I would enable it there and let people choose whether to use it or not.

Not me i'm mean mainly cause my land serves two purposes and I have my "house" at the far end and I dont want to hear the nattering not to mention that if they are using voice and i'm not (which im' not its not even enabled so that people can tell i truly am not using it) they might be asking me questions using the voice client and I would have no way of knowing it since I have mine disabled in my client. So after thinking about it and in order not to get yelled at for ignoring questions that were spoken I turned it off on the land. I get yelled at once a week anyhow by one guy or another who's widget didn't get into his inventory and I didn't respond fast enough to his request cause I had left the keyboard and gone for a drink of water or to the washroom!

Wildefire Walcott

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08-07-2007 12:56

From: Sue Saintlouis

On another note, I think that voice will be very useful in educational events. Already, just to teach friends how to do something, it has been much easier than to type a bunch of instructions.

Yeah, I think that's a fantastic use of voice, so long as it doesn't exclude residents. Just this morning I was really wishing I had fished my headset out of the garage, because I had to step a tenant through a bunch of land settings. Took about an hour to do what would have just been a few minutes in voice.

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Wertzz Holmer

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08-07-2007 20:50

From: Ceera Murakami

As I aid earlier, initially we shut off Voice sim-wide in the new private residential sim that I live in. We polled our residents, and 2/3 of the households in the sim, including the sim owner, immediately agreed they wanted nothing to do with Voice, as did several members in the remaining household who we spoke to.

But one couple in the third household, which owns about 1/3 of the sim, recently decided they did want Voice. Or to be specific, a master wants his his slave to use it when doing RP with him. So Voice is now on, but they will use a private parcel channel for Voice, not the Estate channel, so it's restricted to only their parcel. They also know that no one else in the sim will be using Voice, so I doubt it will cause any friction. It will just be for private use between that couple.

How will you handle the cost of voise when its passed on:
1. Pick the cost up yourself?
2. Pass it on to all residents?
3. Pass it on to that couple?

Yes Or No Voice Activated On Property
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	08-06-2007 14:35 From: Kascha Matova Wow yes! Great observation! I actually can't stand it when people text me rather than talking when they are communicating by phone. I purchased my phone with the intention of talking. I did not buy a phone looking for a typewriter or IM unit. I have several friends that refuse to call and talk on the phone, preferring to text me over and over again to my dismay. Even after I have told them repeatedly that I do not want to receive 30 text alerts for a three sentence conversation, they persist. So I ignore all text messaging, and as a result, have not had conversations with some people in some time. Point is, I expect to talk on the phone. I don't want phone text shoved down my throat just because everybody's doing it. If I wanted to read conversations I would use e-mail. Similarly, if I wanted to voice chat I would pick up the phone. Me too. I refuse to answer text messages. (Well when I had a cell phone anyway, mine went belly up last month). And when I'm with someone else who is constantly texting, I find it very rude. An interesting dynamic in this debate is the belief (by a few) that one side of the argument is "The Truth" while the opposing view is merely opinion. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	08-06-2007 14:40 As I aid earlier, initially we shut off Voice sim-wide in the new private residential sim that I live in. We polled our residents, and 2/3 of the households in the sim, including the sim owner, immediately agreed they wanted nothing to do with Voice, as did several members in the remaining household who we spoke to. But one couple in the third household, which owns about 1/3 of the sim, recently decided they did want Voice. Or to be specific, a master wants his his slave to use it when doing RP with him. So Voice is now on, but they will use a private parcel channel for Voice, not the Estate channel, so it's restricted to only their parcel. They also know that no one else in the sim will be using Voice, so I doubt it will cause any friction. It will just be for private use between that couple. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Waterstar Eilde Registered User Join date: 12 May 2007 Posts: 404	08-06-2007 19:42 Not now, not ever.
Porsha Moran Registered User Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 22	08-06-2007 21:35 Haven't tried it myself yet, but it's on at my club for those who want to use it. Haven't had any problems or complaints.
Sophie Katsu Registered User Join date: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 124	08-06-2007 23:18 It's enabled on our land for our club but I don't plan on using it myself as the norm. One of the things I've always enjoyed about gaming (7 years + on EverQuest before dropping it for SL) is the peace and solitude of being able to play and not have to talk, talk, talk. I tried Teamspeak and Ventrilo while on EQ and it was stupid. People talked about things that had nothing at all to do with EQ. What's the fun in that? Why play a game if RL is going to be brought into it constantly? Like someone said in another post...I hear enough voice in RL. I do love to be in google voice with my SL husband though but we talk about SL. Anyway, for now, it's on for those who enjoy it. Haven't received any complaints about it yet. No problems that I know of so far. I haven't downloaded it yet because of things I've read about the interface. As far as those business owners thinking customers will try to talk to them, aren't we non-voicers going to have the red dot of rebellion over our heads so everyone will know to bug off and leave us alone? I honestly don't think voicers are going to mind texting too. If SL does decide to ditch this voice idea, people who really want it for their clubs and other businesses or for a group of friends can just get Teamspeak or Ventrilo and can talk wherever they want, not just in some sims and not in others. Big businesses who have in-game meetings too can do the same. There are lots of multi-user chat programs out there.
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	08-07-2007 04:57 I have to add that If I had business land or land that had tenants I would enable it there and let people choose whether to use it or not. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Sue Saintlouis Registered User Join date: 8 Dec 2006 Posts: 420	08-07-2007 12:51 From: someone Hi Sue As someone who occasionally attends events at Sue's club, I am happy to read this. I am not anti-voice. But one of my major concerns about voice is that I frequent a lot of dance clubs and live SL music events (I'm at one right now, a Reggae singer as I play hookie from work) and I don't want to hear the voice chatter drown out the music. Hope to see you at another one of your events soon Sue. I've just kind of turned into this live SL music groupie. Hey Jessica! Come on over any time ! Just FYI, you can turn down the voice volume to where you don't hear it at all, which allows you to enjoy the music even if someone happens to talk. I think that LL did give us many options with the various volume sliders. Also, you can temporarily turn off voice in Preferences. Then, you would appear as a non-voice Avatar, and you would not hear any of the voice chat. On another note, I think that voice will be very useful in educational events. Already, just to teach friends how to do something, it has been much easier than to type a bunch of instructions.
Wilhelm Neumann Runs with Crayons Join date: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 2,204	08-07-2007 12:55 From: Brenda Connolly I have to add that If I had business land or land that had tenants I would enable it there and let people choose whether to use it or not. Not me i'm mean mainly cause my land serves two purposes and I have my "house" at the far end and I dont want to hear the nattering not to mention that if they are using voice and i'm not (which im' not its not even enabled so that people can tell i truly am not using it) they might be asking me questions using the voice client and I would have no way of knowing it since I have mine disabled in my client. So after thinking about it and in order not to get yelled at for ignoring questions that were spoken I turned it off on the land. I get yelled at once a week anyhow by one guy or another who's widget didn't get into his inventory and I didn't respond fast enough to his request cause I had left the keyboard and gone for a drink of water or to the washroom!
Wildefire Walcott Heartbreaking Join date: 8 Nov 2005 Posts: 2,156	08-07-2007 12:56 From: Sue Saintlouis On another note, I think that voice will be very useful in educational events. Already, just to teach friends how to do something, it has been much easier than to type a bunch of instructions. Yeah, I think that's a fantastic use of voice, so long as it doesn't exclude residents. Just this morning I was really wishing I had fished my headset out of the garage, because I had to step a tenant through a bunch of land settings. Took about an hour to do what would have just been a few minutes in voice. _____________________ Desperation Isle Estates: Great prices, great neighbors, great service! http://desperationisle.blogspot.com/ New Desperation Isle: The prettiest BDSM Playground and Fetish Mall in SL! http://desperationisle.com/ Desperation Isle Productions: Skyboxes for lots (and budgets) of all sizes!
Wertzz Holmer Registered User Join date: 5 Mar 2007 Posts: 7	08-07-2007 20:50 From: Ceera Murakami As I aid earlier, initially we shut off Voice sim-wide in the new private residential sim that I live in. We polled our residents, and 2/3 of the households in the sim, including the sim owner, immediately agreed they wanted nothing to do with Voice, as did several members in the remaining household who we spoke to. But one couple in the third household, which owns about 1/3 of the sim, recently decided they did want Voice. Or to be specific, a master wants his his slave to use it when doing RP with him. So Voice is now on, but they will use a private parcel channel for Voice, not the Estate channel, so it's restricted to only their parcel. They also know that no one else in the sim will be using Voice, so I doubt it will cause any friction. It will just be for private use between that couple. How will you handle the cost of voise when its passed on: 1. Pick the cost up yourself? 2. Pass it on to all residents? 3. Pass it on to that couple?

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