Yes Or No Voice Activated On Property

Gotcha. BTW it's nicely done place.

I think mine is deactivated on my property its estate land though and I still have an icon that says its on however I clicked the radio button on the media options of the land tab to turn it of on parcel or so I think? I have no idea if its working or not though

Why on the heck would I activate voice on my land? I hear enough voice in first life as it is.

Wyre is voice enabled but common areas (approaching 2/3 of land area) are disabled. Individual tenants can enable voice on their own parcels if they wish.

For now, voice is on at my shop, off on most of the rest of my land; tenants can do as they please on their parcels. But I really don't know about the future. Leaving it on at the shop is intended as a kind of courtesy to customers, but now I feel clumsy about being there because I can't use voice if I wanted to (Linux client), so if customers see me--on my voice-enabled land--they may reasonably expect to be able to voice chat with me, and I'll seem rude when I don't respond.

I really hope voice-enabled ends up being the rare exception, so it won't seem inhospitable to just turn it off.

I have it turned off, as I see no use for it.

If people don't want voice, they just don't want it.

They don't want it on their client, they don't want it on their land, they don't want to hear voice period.

What about that is so hard for you to understand?

What gets me is that you pro-voicers only see your side of this issue. You could care less about understanding the anti-voicers point of view. Because if you did, you wouldn't come up with half the asenine things we hear from pro-voicers on this issue.

Anti-voicers have something to complain about. They were force fed a feature they simply did not want. And they did not want it for a myriad of very credible reasons that were simply ignored.

You, on the other hand, have nothing to complain about because you ALREADY have your voice. There is nothing anyone can do about that. Voice is here, its over, done, kaput.

Yet, at every opportunity, you still find a way to come on the forums and complain anyway.

First you complained because anti-voicers did not want voice, and how one can just disable voice it if one does not want it. Now you complain because we can disable it, which has pretty much been your crying mantra throughout this whole debate, but goddarn it if youre going to allow us to disable it on OUR land!

Allow me to offer a suggestion. Why don't you, and the other 5% of the userbase who wanted this feature, now go inworld and enjoy yourselves yakking away with your newly implemented feature that nobody asked for or wanted, and leave the majority of the user base who did not want any part of it, to find solace on these forums in whatever way they like, including exercising their right not to enable voice on their land because they simply did not, and still do not, want any part of it.

Well, I'm read thru most of the threads on Voice. I guess I'm sitting on the fence. I have voice enabled at the Woodshed and at Rebel Hope Designs. Neither Rebel or I will be using voice, though. She and I have been using Skype for over 2 years now, and will more than likely continue to use it. I'm fine with using text inworld.

We downloaded the optional veiwer last night. We had a few problems getting Reb's headset to work. But we figured it out and we "voiced" with a few of our friends. It was fine. However, I will have that option turned off for me personally all the time. If at some point I find it necessary to voice with someone, I can turn it on, but I doubt that if that will happen.

As far as upsetting customers with our shops being voice enabled, should we find there is a problem with it, we will reconsider having the voice enabled on the islands. I guess I just figured most people that don't want to voice will have it turned off as I will be doing. We definitely do not want to upset people with this voice thing.

Also, just my personal opinion, I don't care if people use voice or not, but I do feel badly that it seems to be dividing the community is such a hurtful way.

Anyways, have a great day everyone and if you see me inworld, say "Hi", oh but do it in text, cos I won't hear your voice......

To answer the question: Yes

I couldn't agree more. I have voice enabled on all of my sims because I wouldn't want to deny my residents the ability to use this option just because of my own insecurity's about "talking" in my own voice. There's absolutely no reason for there to be a huge debate over this, If You want to use it, use it, if not, don't! I think that there are enough people on both sides that we will have plenty of areas for both.

Finally, someone who speaks their mind as I do. I'm sure you have a flame-retardant suit on.

I couldn't agree more with you. Although, this does make us "uncaring bastards" you're aware of that right? I know we aren't uncaring at all...but because we embrace the truth, sometimes we will be labeled as such. I can see where it is a bit blunt for some people. But it is the truth.

PS. Love the name you two-headed hellion.

I am pro voice, and I do not consider myself arrogant or techie or an a**hole

I have yet to see how my posts would be filled with attitude.
(if you see me that way then so be it)

I use voice, I like voice, and I have it enabled at my club, store and the 2 full sims I manage.

If someone doesn't want to use voice they can turn it off, I will not removed the option for those who may want to use voice.

I would never dream of telling someone they have to use voice, and I always make the effort to chat in text as well, for those not on voice.

I am sorry your experience has been a bad one, but if you ever decide to try voice, give me a shout, and I will chat with you without the attitude or arrogance you have experienced.
(not all voice users come to the forums to voice their opinion, just as not all the non voice users come here to voice their distaste.)

I have seen many posts from non voice users that are very insulting to the voice users, but that doesn't mean I will shun them. i try to understand them

my experience with voice users has been a very positive one, and I have met some very happy, funny, entertaining people that I consider new friends and I would hate to not be able to hear their voices, they always make me smile. To them, I say, thank you

yep people have the right to set it as they see fit.
I see the opposite as you do, I see many non voice users complaining and getting upset because some ppl choose to turn voice on, on their land.
Even to the point the non voice users are saying they will not visit those places. I ask all the pro voice users, if voice is not turned on, will that stop you from visiting a place?

will not stop me.

what about those of us who are anti video, I hate video feeds, never turn them on, but did I have a choice about video being available on plots, or the grid or in my client?
nope...

same thing with voice, it is there, but we all have the choice to turn it on or off

I do not see what the issue is all about, other than it is new.
If voice was in the client when we all joined, it would not be an issue, just as video was there when I joined, I just choose to not turn it on.

For now, I'm inclined to agree, and have left voice on. Mostly, I'm waiting to see how things go. The sims I hang about in (various Victorian) seem to be leaning towards remaining text-based by choice rather than fiat. And, in an ideal world, that's how it will remain.

I will be very honest here, however, when I say that I dislike voice chat and don't intend to use it at all. My leaving voice on does me little good: it's more a public service than anything else. If text users start to leave areas because they are voice enabled, this *would* affect my "SL experience". If that starts to happen, I will disable it on my properties.

you can rip off the history chat window, reverting it to the old style of the history window
as for the friends list taller not sure what you mean by that.

what happens if voice users start to leave because voice is turned off then?

just curious where people draw the line on this.

voice users do not have a choice of turning voice on, on someone elses plot, however non voice users can turn off voice on their own client, therefor not having any voice available anywhere by their choice.

non voice users actually have more choices than voice users.
voice users can not enable voice everywhere, non voice users can disable it everywhere (for themselves)

Just an aside, but: can it be a surprise that wording like this might generate a hostile response? "the truth"? I mean, gee, is there no sense of hubris? Somewhere I mentioned parenthetically the objective fact that voice isn't running on Linux yet, but while true, I wouldn't exclaim how I'd found "the truth."

And not everything is an objective fact about the world. From the "truth"-labeled posting, for example, *maybe* it shows concern for customers to enable voice--that's why it's currently that way at my shop--but *maybe* that will cause too much cross-talk or turn the shop into a voice-griefer's haven that will force customers to mute voice on their clients; then, having it enabled will be inconsiderate of me. It's an empirical question; on all the interesting questions, there's no revealed truth to be had yet.

I know what you are saying, but if someone only uses voice, I really won't have much contact with them. I'm more concerned about the societies I am already part of drifting away to greener, less vocal, pastures.

Most people I know who use voice use it as a way to have private, one on one conversations. I only know one person who actually enjoys it in groups and periodically has "voice parties" at his estate. These are hardly demographics that would be affected by restricting voice in more public areas. I am only speaking about my communities, of course.

Right now, I'm standing outside my shop with my finger in the air, waiting to feel the winds of deleterious change. While I am very bothered by the fact that Mr. Deckard is planning on leaving Caledon, I hope that he will forgive me for observing that so far, he is a single person. If that sort of thing becomes common, I will turn voice off.

hehe you just gave me the mental image of someone literally standing outside with their finger in the air (no not THAT finger LOL)

yes I know what you mean and all we can do is wait and see what happens

(and for the record I am a voice user but I also still use text chat, I will not be just voice, I like text too)
heck there are times I type to those I am voicing with LOL yes I know... I am strange

Non-voicers not wanting to give voicers a choice. I think it's a bit reverse-discriminatory here. You don't like voice, so you cut off voice completely, and think that this makes it all OK. Actions speak louder than words, and your actions of disabling it completely speak volumes (pun intended) of your character, and attitude.

I agree, I do feel that I am being discriminated against because I use voice, the tone I get from many (not all) non voice users makes me feel as though I am bad, and doing something wrong by choosing to use voice

I do not shun, or make anyone feel badly for not using voice, that is their choice
I will still talk to them, in text

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with using voice. No one should have to defend their choice to use it. No one should say nasty things about voicers simply becuase they choose to use voice.

Theres nothing wrong with not using voice. No one should have to defend their choice not to use it. They shouldnt be told that they are likely hiding something, that they are likely Socially inept , etc.

I'm not installing the voice client unless I have to, 'cause I'm waiting to see if they do anything further with the interface, but...

-Disabled in my home
-Enabled in my shop

Want to give people the option to use it if so inclined while shopping, and figured it might be helpful for explaining things to customers in a face-to-face setting, but for everyday use? I'd pretty much rather be set on fire. I feel the same way about phones, public speaking, and anything else that requires me talking to people I don't actually know.

This is something I haven't seen much mention of, but it's a bit of an issue to consider for those of us living with it, so I might as well bring it up: some people dislike the idea of voice -not- because they're Luddites or hiding some big dark secret, but because they, like me, have or once had a speech impediment that makes verbal communications uncomfortable for them.

Personally, I love text. Real hard to stutter when typing.

thankfully I do not feel anyone is hiding anything by not using voice

some just do not like using it, simple enough I would say

I am still confused what all the hoopla is about, why are there so many threads of people shouting turn off voice, etc etc...

I say given the personal choice is plenty good for me