Do We HAVE To Use Voice??

In my experience a lot of what people call role play is bad acting and bragging about imaginary abilities, and whose imaginary ability is more better than whose.

I dont think voice will improve that. Over Acting is worse in audio (i forsee 10000 James Kirk Impressions). And of course a 19 year old kid braggin in his mother's basement about how tuff he is isnt gonna work.

For all that other role play .. the good stuff , perhaps voice vs text matters.

I thank you for your responce, this is actually the first I have seen that has the actual feel of a real roleplayer behind it. It is well written and supported where others feel more advicated by those that are trying to argue what they think roleplayers think. That being said I conceed that it will break the emersion for some and others will adapt, but I still have serious doubts it will destroy roleplay as a whole, it seems so silly.

How does it act like radar?

I am pretty sure from your description I'm not going to like this one bit.

Is there a way just to have chat history up by itself?

coco

You can see (by who is talking) who is closest to you. No, you cannot have the chat history open by itself now, not that I could figure anyway.

No it wont destroy roleplay I have never seen voice chat destroy roleplay yet and voice has been around for a long time. I have only ever seen people resort to voice chat in roleplay type situations when they are doing a huge group thing and instructions are passed along in the voice (hated that too hehe i'm horrible).

Ok, I said the MAIN reason would probably be due to not wanting to be discovered. Again, the MAIN reason. I didn't say everyone who chooses not to use it is hiding something.

Now, to all those who are saying the lines are being drawn and all that other stuff, why do you care if people assume you're being evasive due to not using voice? Why do you care what anyone thinks? Seems like some people are being overly defensive about this.

The truth is, if you don't use it for whatever reason, more times then not others will assume it's because you're hiding something. This is just the way it is.

Personally, I don't care who chooses not to use it so it doesn't matter to me as I usually use voice with the people I associate with anyway so there's nothing new here.

I could ask the same, why do you care?

Well THAT's not much help if you can't.

Seems to me that people using voice would like to have the chat window up (by itself) to follow the text parts.

Having a window with all that stuff in it would make it harder to just follow text.

Sounds like just having chat window up will be a huge annoyance/impossibility if you just like to text chat and build.

Guess I'll have to wait to experience it to know. But it sounds like it won't be just real friendly for text users. Just can't imagine having IM's and text all boggled up together, but I figure that's cause I haven't seen it.

coco

I would certainly hope you are wrong. I can't imagine anyone thinking that because I'm not using voice, I'm hiding something. I really don't think most people will think that. I certainly don't expect that they will think that.

coco

P.S. I'm also quite sure that hiding something will not be the main reason for not using voice. There are just too many other, understandable, reasons for not using it. I think that will be a less common reason for not using it, actually.

Dont worry about it Coco, I surely wont Some people just are fanatical about labeling others they dont know

Well, I think he just doesn't realize how much some people hate the phone; how many people listen to music or watch TV while being in SL; how tiresome it is to constantly be repelling unwanted advances (and how much worse they would be in voice); how we already get enough of voices and kids and chaos and the workplace irl; how people have OTHER people at home to consider when they get online; the importance and compelling draw of the fantasy factor, as opposed to reality; and how SL is a strange combination of expected socialization and totally random strangers.

In other words, it's like being outside in a very crowded place, but the expectation is you will talk to and be friendly and polite to everyone who comes along! Because it is a social environment, by definition. And I certainly enjoy doing that.

BUT - doing it in voice could be very exhausting. I mean, even going to a real life MALL is a more quiet and solitary experience. SL is different that way. There are boundaries around strangers in public in real life which don't exist as much in SL, and I don't think they should.

Plus voice alone can in ways be more exhausting than when you have the whole person in real life there in front of you, too. Like being on the phone all the time, with strangers. It is different if it is just you and your friends, or you are at an SL party, or you're trying to hook up, or something.

Voice is also more intimate, and disembodied voice is more intimacy than I really want to share with and get from people I don't know.

I think he just doesn't personally identify with all these considerations.

coco

First it is voice and then it is using our real life pictures for our avatars. Why would anyone use SL for this when it is easier just to submit yourself to first life?

Voice will remind me of the days when I'd visit my bro and hear some of the knobs jabbering away on MPlayer.

*Shudders*

yes exactly... it is my choice if I wish to use it

so telling me that it is no good or wrong.... is just as bad as if I sad you (general you) are bad for not using it

ppl already do, they can have the avatar look just like themselves if they wish

I have seen it mentioned on the forums, expensive but I am sure there are some who do it

No it's not Coco. You're making too much of this if and when they add voice. You're comparing this to a Mall? To so many different things and it's nothing like this.

Many players of all types of different games use "voice" whether it's vetrilo or any of the other many ones available. Not only this but many times this is done in guilds where there are many players all on there talking and it's nothing like what you or some of the others here are saying. And these people here are strangers just like in sl so that's nothing new either.

There are some people here who have never used "voice" in gaming and have yet to use the one planned for here either, yet, they're giving all these excuses saying how bad it will be without having tried it first.

Try it then afterwards you're opinion of whether it's no good to use will be valid, until then it's just excuses and innuendos that have no merit. Because you can't comment on something you haven't tried and some of you have never ever experienced "voice" in any way, shape or form, not here, not anywhere else either.

Like everything in life, experience it first, then you can make comments about it.

Heh! You're probably right about that Carlos. Most of the ones complaining have probably not tried the Voice beta. Some folks just like to whine on the forums. Every mention of a change or bug fix brings out the same "the sky is falling" people. I'd bet if you made a tally of who on the forums complains you'll find the same names over & over.

Honestly, you don't need to use voice in the beta grid to know if you are going to be using voice in SL. There are plenty of other places that people could have used voice and found they don't like it.

In the end, there will be those that love voice and use it all the time, and there will be those that hate it, and never use it. Some will use it at times, but not at others. If we can have furries, humans, aliens, and whatever else living together in SL, I am sure that voice and no voice will be just fine together. Though, I don't think that I would want to hang out in the welcome areas.

And plus, it could be a lot of fun. Get a very good looking female avie. Wait to get hit on, and after a few messages, switch to voice with your very gruff male voice coming out of this female avie, and watch the fun!

So I don't know that I don't like something until I try it? Like voice is a NEW thing? Give me a break.

oh ok i tired voice..and i had someone im trying to explain voice to me even thou o was in voice already

The sky is not falling but a few grid monkeys have fallen from the trees

You are right, I haven't experienced it yet. (But I have experienced live people talking to me, as well as the telephone.)

I think you kind of misunderstood me about the mall. I was saying the mall is a QUIETER place in a lot of ways.

Also, I'm not in a guild on SL, so I wouldn't have that use for it. There would be a purpose for it there, a need that I don't have in SL, that would make it not call so much attention to itself per se, if you know what I mean. Here, it is just . . . voice. (Unless you have a specific purpose for it here, like a meeting or something yo uwant to talk at.)

In any case, I'm just telling you how I feel about it. No excuses or innuendos, really, it's just how I feel about getting on SL and all of a sudden chatting out loud with people. For those who like it, great. Chances are extremely slim I will, at least not for 99% of the time.

coco

Um, I'm not whining at ALL. After all, no one is going to make me use voice; it's optional. I'm stating why I almost assuredly will not want to use it. I don't think that amounts to "whining." And I don't think that means the sky is falling.

I don't believe I have "complained" at all about voice. My opinion of it, in fact, is that it is something LL MUST offer. Sooner, rather than later. You just can't not offer what other similar programs do. And as I've said on other forums, if anything will make a big difference in making (a percentage of the) people a lot happier, this will, is my prediction.

Moreover, though it is not good for deaf people and other such populations (who can still type), it is equally if not more so true that a lot of people aren't that great typers. I type really well, which gives me sympathy for those who don't. (When I ran the Game Show Channel in TSO, people won things by ringing in first with an "!" rather than the prizes going to whoever typed out the answer fastest.)

So - don't tell me I am whining or complaining, please, as I am not. I'm simply stating, rather philosophically, the myriad reasons I and others don't think of this as something that would enhance our own second lives. I assume one can do this without being called a whiner.

coco

Actually and I hate to speak of another person and their computer , but if you knew coco you would know that she runs this game on a museum piece and cant run voice on it because it would probably make her computer go up in a puff of smoke. So all the reasons in the world that you haven't thought of include that one.

I think the issue here at present is not those who aren't going to use voice its those that are trying to tell those who aren't gonna use it why its the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you read it most of the non users say much the same thing its not their cup of tea, but can see how others might like it

I'm not sure what's wrong with this.

So no the world will not end if us people who dont want voice dont use it, but I am getting tired of people telling those who dnot use voice that they dont like it because they havent tried it. I am pretty sure everyone so far that is in this thread in fact has tried it and is speaking from experience. Voice is not new not by a long shot its only new to SL and that's about it. Even then voice has been in SL in a limitted capacity on some private sims for quite awhle so its not even new to SL .. come to think of it..

Sounds fun. I guess I'll need to download screaming bee or somesuch for this, right?

I may use voice very occasionally but normally sound is off on my comp so I can watch a tv programme or listen to music.

The reason I won't use it 99 percent of the time is that wearing headphones gives me head and ear ache and I don't give a damn what other people think of me for not using voice.