Do We HAVE To Use Voice??

*noddles* Or in my case, the kid is awake.. and I don't want to annoy anyone with childish yodels in the background. My mic doesn't filter too well, but it was what I could afford. Not to mention that no one should suffer the sounds of Thomas the Tank Engine for hours on end, which is considered an inhumane form of punishment by some conventions.

But no one has shunned me not doing voice. *mutters* Also, apparently there is a problem with me being able to upload textures reliably while have the voice enabled. The whole reason I use the Beta grid is to test textures

I won't use voice. Won't even try it. But if others want to, that's fine. I do have the equipment already... I do use skype voice for business/work purposes.

I'm still betting that the *majority* of the population will continue being text only after the initial hype and excitement of voice settles down.

I don't know, Tommy the Tank Engine might be fun to hear



Totally off topic, have you Norton Anti-Virus installed? I had a problem with textures uploading too, then I spotted this thread in the knowledge base:

http://secondlife.com/knowledgebase/article.php?id=451

Of course, right now, I can't log on at all, so the point is a tad moot

used voice elsewhere hated it
went to beta grid in SL to see voice still hated it
I rarely answer the telephone as I hate the telephone I leave that for others. If the phone rings and no one is around it goes onto the voice mail

Sooo those who are not interested in voice in SL have their reasons and it as you say its not the "newness" or "prejudgement" etc and this "being the victim" stuff I am reading that well (no comment)

some of us like to talk all the time some of us don't. If i were to prejudge this is my "judgement" based on the statements on why people are avoiding voice as the "true reason". Those thinking people who dont want to use voice are "ebil" are likely 20 something males with raging hormones wanting to find a hot SL date who is of the opposite gender and wants to talk dirty too ^^

There is my stereotype so basically I will then group all those who use voice as underage over testosteroned males or overly promiscuous femals wanting to "get it on" lol

anyhow if there is a switch that I can flip to turn it off on my land it will be off so anyone wanting to use voice will not be liking my place..

Nope. I got rid of Norton after the first big crash, which it caused... Yeah, that was a good day. And my newer program hasn't had an ounce of trouble with the regular SL and texture uploading.

Its not that the textures aren't uploading.. it's more like at least one in every two seems to get an error about uploading difficulties. Log out and back in and there it is.. but when I turned voice off, the errors stopped too. Go figure. And it doesn't always happen, either. Sometimes it works just fine.

Its definitely something to consider.

You woudnt answer the phone if you knew was a better than even chance it was a phone sex proposition.

There will be a lot of places in SL where almost no women will want to use voice.

This will probably be a boon for those women in the Sex business since they will be nearly the only ones listening in any "Adult" social area.

You left out they are probably living in their Mom's Basement. That's MY stereotype.

let's not forget "no life" and yes I totally forgot about mom

Luckily I know how to hang up my phone!

Also, just like a real major city, there are parts of town where someone is more likely to get propositioned, mugged or have insurance sold to them. The key is figuring out where those areas are and avoiding them...unless you need insurance, a good beatin' or a happy ending!

A lot of times these are all one in the same.

Unfortuantely in Second Life one of the places you are most likely to be propositioned is Shopping ..

Which wouldnt strike you as an "Adult" venue, I wouldnt think.

I love the arguments against voice on the behalf of roleplayers. I don't even think the argument is being made by roleplayers them selves. I do not see roleplayers giving up text for voice to express themselves in character. The whole some boys play girls argument is totally stupid, of course this happens, I do it myself! Dway is no less convincing in text with or without those I roleplay with knowing I am actually and adult guy 15 years older than my 10 year old child character. Nor is Lina any less convincing, or Casaunda, Rayne, Tirika, Emmi or Terra. All these are characters I play that are of the opposite sex and range in age from 10 to 900 years old.

Do I use voice? Yes my guild has a ventrillo server we use to talk to each other all the time reguardless of what game we are in or what we are doing.

Does is effect my roleplaying opposit sex characters? No, because we still roleplay in text, voice is just OOC chatter. Infact voice has inhanced our roleplaying as it has brought us as players closer together, and gives us a venue outside the game to discuss possible plot archs for our characters.

Do I roleplay in SL? No, not really. Though my Av may not be an accurate recreation of my physical appearance, I am there mainly as a fun place to be, and lets face it, when you don't have the money to go out an do some things in RL, SL is a lot cheaper.

Will I use SL Voice when released? Maybe when I am not on Vent with my guild, or if I feel the need. I am not shy of others hearing my voice, but that does not mean I jump on every mediums voice features either.

Why would I not use SL Voice? Either because I am on voice on another medium, or for the very reason I choose not to use voice that day. Yes I have days when listening to peoples voice chatter just annoys me and I want peace and quiet or just to listen to my music or maybe have something else I am trying to focus on.

I guess that would depend on what you're shopping for!

It will be interesting to see how LL will handle ARs for voice.

The thing is, though, I think griefing and other undesirable will be subdued somewhat in v-chat. Most of what drives a lot of these people is a sense of anonymity and the fact that the subject of their negative attention just looks like a cartoon that types. I think griefers will stick to typing or voice changers and will be easier detered by "shut the hell up" or "get the f#$k out of here" being yelled as opposed to typed.

Either way it's not going to go away. It's how people are in any venue!

Shopping for Normal everyday clothing in a normal fashion store, I have been bothered numorous times.

Actually - no .. It wouldnt ..

Thats why I brought it up. Ive been propositioned shopping for furniture, for hair, for clothes, for shoes ..

The best recent example I was buying clothes some guy- says hi, 5 minutes later he was asking me to be his pet.




He should have known better - I told him people would have a better opinion of D/S if a lot of the online Doms werent so quick to try and coller every woman they meet.

I do not expect voice to alleviate this problem. As well as a lot of other ones.

SO realisitically I think a lot of people will have voice off by default and only turn it on in comfortable settings.

That's how I plan on doing it...

The voice for roleplayers thread is 22 Forums to the right ..

I won't be using it because I'm not gunna buy a headset...sitting behind my comp wearing one gives me headaches already. And no...I won't turn up my speakers as well..I don't wanna wake up everyone. And if I'm logged in while no one's home I listen to music.

And if anyone points a finger at me saying I'm not who I say I am....*shrugs*

Mandy C

Not to single you out, but maybe if people didn't go into it with a defensive, negative attitude then people wouldn't think they were lying about your gender/age/whatever.

Assuming v-chatters are judgemental elitist jerks will just give off a bad vibe and make v-chatters start thinking all typers are judgemental elitist jerks.

If anyone bothers me about not being who I say I am, I'll just hand them a Note Card with my guilds Vent info and a one time invitaion to voice chat with me. LOL

Roleplay aside there are so many reason to and not to use voice. I do not see there really being much room for discimination.

Sigh... do you really think you can tell gender by voice? Cause I'll be (maybe) the first to tell you some people don't conform to our ideas of 'male' or 'female' voices... I'm one of those, any time I talk to someone on the phone they decide I'm either male or female, but it's really hard for them to tell... I have a voice that's between being high or low in tone... This is a problem when I call someone like the phone company and they insist I'm not who I saw I am because they don't believe I'm the 'correct' gender for my name... Hell I remember one time where I was calling a product support line to get some work done on a failing product and the stupid %&$# on the other end decided not only was I not the correct gender, but the wrong age by almost two decades... "Little boy go get mommy or daddy and put them on the phone." I so want off on him, but he actually hung up on me...

But people are dumb and most peoples assumptions are equally dumb... Sinfield years back covered this with a guy who as they termed it was a 'high talker', but some women have voices lower than most as well...

What is this new ChatterBox, and what is it like?

Does this mean that those who type will be faced with something much worse? Harder to follow? Taking up too much of the screen?

What's too hard to figure out about it?

coco

I am a female, and I play a female avatar. I don't do sex in SL. I have nothing to hide. I don't plan to use voice for the reasons I've already stated, and for reasons others have stated. They are all valid reasons.

coco

I'm a roleplayer I like typed text and I roleplay SL (just not on the forums and not in IM"s to my friends). Some RP'ers might like voice and others wont it depends on what they are doing and how their imagination is wrapping around it. RP'ers like the rest of the population will do what they want with voice (turn it on or leave it off).

I also dont think anyone is arguing on "behalf" of roleplayers they are however saying what it makes them feel when in SL and how it breaks immersion for them. If it doesn't for you great others however have an idea in their head of how things are because its typed in text and have applied their own voice to the character. When some guy with a totally wrong voice then they imagined comes on and starts chatting it up in vent it kinda spoils it. (it does for me anyhow again if it doesn't for you great but it bothers me hence I dont use vent, teamspeak and anything else you can think of.)

I prefer to hear the ambient sounds and not have this voice overlaid which doesn't fit in and is innappropriate sounding for the surroundings. If its outside I want it to sound like its outside not like a guy at the other end of the phone. If its a person playing a pixie I want to hear a pixie and since the pixies voice is imagined in my head anything else I hear is gonna not be a part of it and ruin it for me.

So i'm not sure what makes a person a "valid roleplayer" or whatever but if you have your preconception of what roleplayers like and dont like its fine. I probably dont fit into that mould....

1: Takes up 1/4th of the screen pretty much
2: The voice controls, volume, who is speaking, who is typing, friends list, ims, history, main chat....all in one shiny box.
3: After awhile I supposed you could get used to it. But it looks like a pain in the ass.
4: On the bright side: It acts like a radar of sorts.