Is SL a "game" or another word?

I agree with this one 100%. I've played about 10 different games in SL during my time served. Here are the games in chronological order...

1. exploration

2. cybernetic augmentation

3. convincing crazy people to have SL sex with me in robot or dinosaur form. The goal was to never take my boots off and to have my RL roommate guess where in SL we were so she could take pictures through the window. This was hilarious for about a week then I moved on...

4. RP in Nexus Prime until I realized most of the people that were there just wanted to sit around and talk about how much better they are than everything and everyone else.

5. DJ at various places including the 1st Brazilian music club "Casa do Cachaca" just before the first Brazilian rush in SL

6. Making buildings including an old Colonial Portuguese church for the new Casa do Cachaca.

7. Combat in various areas including Carnage Island.

8. RP in Gor for the swash-buckling aspect. I also made some decent L$ in the slave trade.

9. Building mech suits for avs and making a business out of it. SL began to pay for itself at this point.

10. Wild West RP in Sigil where I put together the uniforms of the first 1870s Union Cavalry in SL

...I revisit #1,2,5, 6, and 7 from time to time. Haven't stopped #9 yet. The rest either got boring or came apart because of various SL socio-political drama.

SALVE SEGUNDA VIDA!!

I am currently working on a patch to the open source viewer that uses a proprietary metal mouse (which would eventually be required) that measures temperature, breathing, heart rate and sweat and randomly shows nude child avatars and if you become aroused it turns on 120 volts to the mouse and fries you where you sit.

Development is slow as I had an accident with my tester and lost my insurance.

Do you plan on making it XCite! compatable?

You may also have the answer to Verification. Hook up to that gizmo and all your vital statistics can be transmitted In World. I like it.

Plus the fingerprints. Don't forget the fingerprints.

Biometrics.....Great idea.

Plus if you electrocute them through the finger tips you would know when to shut the voltage off if it has a built in Fingerprint scanner.

Which is funny.. because for me, those who don't see it as a game are missing out on what we all bring to it. SL is a game, and I know it is. Even in WoW, there have been funerals for fallen clan members. To think nothing of greifing is more of a moral issue...because its an open ended game - with no 'winners.'

Thats my view, and I don't make others think as I do or define SL for others.



Bzzt wrong. let me fix that line for you, since I am also a content creator..

"For people that understand the difference, "game" is still proper and accurate"

It can be all these things... and more!

Note: I'm having to use examples here because the definition of the word "game" is so unclear, so I'm having to show general patterns that these don't fit into.



If this are a game, then enjoying a walk around your local lake is a game.



If this is a game, then getting ready and dressing up nicely for an evening out as a game.



If this is a game, then when you enjoy your RL job enough, it becomes a game.



These are games, but they are not all of SL.



Um, I don't know what to say about that one...

Second Life is many things to many many people.
As in Real Life, we have to accept different view points in order to live in a somewhat
uneasy peace.
You say it's a game? Fine, but don't shove it down my throat and expect me to thank you.
You say it's not a game? Also fine, but give those who will not respect your feelings their own space.

Life, whatever the venue, is all about compromise.
Hugs and tickles
Threshin

Its a virus that slowly kills your computer by eating so many of its resources that it dies a slow painful death.

THAT SUMS IT UP!

To me, it's a 3d virtual world, we can design 3d objects, communication and collaboration, develop the interactive applications, trainning.. etc..

Is there anything in this perceptual universe that ISN'T a game?

hmmm?

look people, your brain works on electricity and plays ping-pong with electrical signals through their own neural joysticks, common!

Yes, but ultimately a game does not require an objective to be a game. That's expected but not required.

True. But also; a group of scientists from London were travelling to Edinburgh by train for a conference. They see a black sheep on the hillside from the train window.

The Parapsychologist says "Look, all the sheep in Scotland are black!"

The Physicist replies "No, all we can say is that one of the sheep in Scotland is black."

To this the Astronomer responds "Infact, all we can really say is that one of the sheep in Scotland is black on one side."

Finally the Mathematician rouses himself and replies "Actually, all we can really say is that one of the sheep in scotland is black on one side some of the time."

I forget where I'm going with this, but it made me chuckle when I heard it.

Whats funny is people try to call it diffrent things, the biggest being "virtual world" which is just another name for a game.

What kind of software is for the Computer?

Now list what kind this fits under? There is no "virtual software" catagorey! No why? Because its called "Games". "The Sims", "World of Warcraft"....etc their all games. They are all like this. Just Linden made it massive and open to do whatever you want. Its a giant videogame where your goal is what you want!

oh boy here we go again

if u prefer the game, sl is a game for u. In computer software, we can call sl as a software hosting program.

Why hold onto this so tightly? Do you feel your opinion needs to be validated at the expense of others? You see it as a game. Great. Break out the brass band for having an opinion but don't get your knickers in a twist just because other people disagree with you.

Oh and for the record I actually do look at it as a game, I just respect other people who think differently.

Ludwig Wittgenstein was probably the first academic philosopher to address the definition of the word game. In his Philosophical Investigations, Wittgenstein demonstrated that the elements of games, such as play, rules, and competition, all fail to adequately define what games are. He subsequently argued that the concept "game" could not be contained by any single definition, but that games must be looked at as a series of definitions that share a "family resemblance" to one another; such as play, rules, and competition, all fail to adequately define what games are. He subsequently argued that the concept "game" could not be contained by any single definition, but that games must be looked at as a series of definitions that share a "family resemblance" to one another.

- wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game

SecondLife is ..... unique

Categories are just soo passe

Okay, I'm game.

There isn't an absolute definition for any word. Definitions change over time. So I'm not sure why a smarty pants like Ludwig would bother to ponder over the meaning of a word.

Everybody has the their own definition of the word 'game'. This is why it's pointless to argue over what Second Life is. If somebody thinks that Second Life is a game then it's because it fits their definition of game. We can't force people to use our definitions.

Game over...

This Thread is a Mess too.

Please everyone keep Brenda in this thread so she doesn't troll my other posts. Thanks.

Oh and ?? game or platform? Its a game. Only games these days (except consoles) are getting deeper all the time and more immersive, and you have to redefine what you mean by 'game'.

Serious enough? Trying my best here