Voice Chat Can Really Kill the Mood on WoW

Why yes Chris, there are. You can have sedate, stately, sex at a moderate pace instead.

Yesterday I switched on my speakers for a brief moment to listen to an object that makes sound. Within 5 minutes I switched them off again, because the sounds of people gesturing around me became too annoying. Most of the sound in SL merely annoys me and the people I live with. IF I were to use voice I would have to hear all that other noise as well. No thank you...

When I'm at a shop, I hardly look (if at all) at the shop name and/or at the designer sex/profile whatever.

If I like what I see and the price is right, I buy. Then I may look at the shop name and designer profile, but only 'cause I want to shop more.

Good stuff sells. Bad stuff may eventually sell. Go for good stuff and that's about it, you don't need a female alt.

I know the feeling. In very populated area (as the Welcome Area) I always have my sound turned off... but on my own land I have a wonderful music-stream (New Age).

Morwen.

Yeah, but I just want one. My male's hands are too big and clumsy for sowing. He struggles with the fiddly bits.

Although, the idea of "Conan's Big Manly Dresses for Big Manly Chaps" is appealling.

Cues up "The Lumberjack Song"

I wonder if a female using a Male to female voice changer (thus making it much higher pitched) Would work for a fae voice

And a Male using a female to male voice changer (this making it very low pitch) would work for a Ogre/troll voice.

Just an interesting thought on your comment is all hehe

Not that voice is necessary, I played Anarchy Online for years and we never used voice for raids. People from AO would constantly remark how "easy" wow is.

yeah, i make money to help pay for college and just spending money. It's not enough to live off yet. I think it would be possible to get to that point though if you work at it.

If those programs work,

My guess is those who dont want to voice becuase of their own voice (whether privacy over the sound of their voice or those with different genders) - will begin to voice.

People will know the voice changers work and thus many be suspicious of anyones whos voice doesnt sound "perfect"

Im told this happens some already online.

That way people can be paranoid of both voicers and texters. LOL

The problem is that, based on the voice in the beta grid, SL grabs your default sound input for voice and can't be changed from that. Which means that using a software voice changer isn't possible because there is no way of telling SL to listen to its output instead of the microphone input. Also, SL doesn't monitor (ie, it doesn't play back to you how your voice sounds to others) so you could never be sure your changed voice was being broadcast.

Most voice changers sound awful anyway and it will be obvious that you're using a voice changer, which will attract social stigma. Voice training actually tends to sound better - and guys actually have an advantage, because they can use halfcord freezing to sound like a girl, whereas a girl has a much harder time sounding like a guy (it's much harder to make your voicebox sound bigger than it is, than smaller than it is)

What a bunch of Cynical, Petty, Small Minded, people we are......

With aplogies to Elvis:

We're caught in a trap
I can't walk out
Because I love you too much baby

Why can't you see
What you're doing to me
When you don't believe a word I say?

We can't go on together
With suspicious minds
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds........

hey just becuase some people are paranoid , doesnt mean others arent out to get them.

Why is there even talk of that over-rated game WoW?

Look again, this is Second Life, not that -overly hyped, grindfest, dumb cartoony graphics, everyone of each race looking exactly alike, with quests that mirror each other and don't pay anything for it's missions- game.

While I didn't cover everything as it would take too much time this is basically the major points.

You don't want to use voice chat? But then you think others will judge you as being someone else in terms of gender or whatever esle you can think of. Why should you care? You choose to hide er... sit behind your computer for whatever reasons you choose, so it's ok. Then this shouldn't bother you, it's not like you're exposing yourself by having others listen to youur voice you know. You're still nice, safe and anonymous so don't worry.

Daisy,

If you don't understand the language using voice then you actually think you can understand it in writing? What's the difference?

I tried to talk to someone in sl using type, she responded, "No speaky english". If we was using voice and the same thing was said don't you think I would understand exactly what she meant?

There's no difference, either you understand or you don't. It doesn't matter whether it's in type or said in voice chat. On the contrary using voice you may understand better as many languages have many words that sound alike or very similar. Something like spanish and italian where many words sound so much alike and in many instances you can tell what it is that's being said. Or at least understand it a bit more because of it's sound.
The same can't be said if written out.

So are there any other decisions that people might be making because of traumatic or uncomfortable past experiences that you wish to ridicule or be condescending about?

For those of you who think emotions and insight into a person's true identity cannot be achieved through text as they supposedly can through voice, I present Mr. Carlos Cameron. A griefer in the making whose words thus far have painted as vivid and transparent a picture of his character and motivations as anything I've heard in speech.

Hopefully life continues to be a bed of roses for you Carlos, so you can continue to walk around unaffected and mock the experiences, concerns and choices of other people. However, when you, or someone you care about (meaning you) find out the hard way that there are legitimate reasons for people to want anonymity I wonder what your reaction will be when you are the one being mocked? Will you stomp your feet? Pout? Wonder aloud (in voice) why you can't file an AR in real life?

Until that time, please continue being the best you can be at your chosen role in SL; a disturbingly sobering argument in favor of the Mute and Ignore functions.

Voice killed the mood in wow? Come on Voice is necessary for any type of organized activity within WoW, ie. group PvP or PvE encounters. I would refuse to take part in any sort of such acitivty without voice, as it would be pointless death over and over.

And back to SL, this is not that necessary for SL.

While technically this post is a flame - you have to admire how its put together.

And the target did invite it, in my opinion.

I really didn't want to go here, but there is enough of this uncaring callousness in RL.

I don't see any difference between the thinly disguised derision I've heard on here and RL behavior like checking a watch impatiently and yelling "jump already" to someone standing on a ledge above. To me, they come from the same place. I am far from a perfect human being, but I don't feel I have to be to be disturbed by how we've become a world of individuals who flaunt crassness. Maybe I'm getting old.

Not true. I can read french a bit (not much, but a bit), but spoken French really does just sound like noise to me.

Exactly. Accents and speed play a big factor in being understood. I can read and understand Spanish fairly well, but most people I know who speak it, speak it way too fast for me to understand at times. When spoken, the word is gone. In text I can study it for a second.

There's a huge difference. I can read French quite well, but when spoken I can't. It's not uncommon that many people are "read fluent" but can't understand the spoken version.

Also, with written text you can parse languages easier, and use tools like babelfish to help determine what is being said.

Yep, I have used babelfish and cut/paste to have basic but effective conversations (RP even) with people whose language I don't speak. Try doing that with voice.

And Ctrl-H is a great help in following any SL conversation ...

Maybe. But some of us stutter a little. I will not be using it. WG

Well I've got no intention of using voice anytime soon, I hardly ever use voice online as it is. I've used teamspeak for wow and I sometimes use Skype or Yahoo chat but that's one to one and I'm not doing much else at the time

In SL I can keep track of text, there's a nice little log there for me to keep up with events. So whilst I TP off left, right and centre I can also keep up with the conversation.

I'm not against voice itself, I just don't see it becoming the main means of communication, this isn't the right environment for it, we can travel around too quickly for voice to be the best means of communication here.

Well, it seems using voice chat really affects some people here like Kascha Matova. Some, not all but some. It affects them to a degree that may even affect them psychologically I gather after reading Matova's response. Wow, does it hurt that bad? Really? You're mixing emotions and feelings and everything else in this like it will break a person pysche if they were to voice in sl.

Trust me, it isn't all that. It's not such a big deal as some are making it out to be. You would think you have to give up your family and homes the way some are carrying on since they don't want to use it.

You seem to think I'm mocking those who don't wish to use chat. Nope. You just see it differently as you think using voice in a game is something you need to be examined by a psychologist before getting an ok to use it. Just to make sure you're mentally tough enough and your feelings and emotions don't get brought down.

I'm simply stating as have many others here that if you don't want to use it, if you feel offended by doing so, if it hurts that bad then you have the option not to use it. Trust me, no one cares as I said before. Stay out of it, this is your choice and sl will continue as usual.
Yes, this is a forum and everything is open for discussion but to say emotions and feelings and everything else will be brought out is going a bit too far now.

Oh, and as you asked if I was mocked or suffered a bad experience in voice chat what would I do? Well, I'm smart enough to know there's always the mute button I have the option to use if I decided to go that way which I most likely wouldn't as I'm not as fragile as you're making others to be or as you yourself may be. Too bad others don't realize you do have a choice, mute button or don't use chat altogether. No excuses, no alibi's about a difference in language or anything like it, just don't use it.
Simple enough!