Voice Chat Can Really Kill the Mood on WoW

True. Implement any feature you want. say it's to make the game better, say it'll make you more money, say nothing. But don't say it due to any fictional popular demand.

we call the british 'poms'. americans are yanks (at best). trust me, better to be called a yank than a seppo.
nobody cares if a southerner doesnt like being called a yank. and if 'yank' is the worst you think that will be said, you have another thing coming. americans arent as popular as they think.

When the Brittish were at the height of empire they werent as popular as the Brittish thought amoung other countires.

When the Spanish had a huge overseas empire they werent as popular os the Spanish thought amoung other countries.

When the Romans had a huge overseas empire they werent as popular as the Roman's thought amoung other countires.

Its simple - If a country holds what seems a disproportionate amount of global influence and power - then many people in other countires are going to look at them negatively.

Americans were quite popular for example around the world during the height Brittish Influence.

no i dont think its that. america has been the leader for the better part of 100 years. it hasnt been until this presidency that ive noticed such a strong anti-american sentiment.
i know how people react when an american voices up on a quake server. if thats anything to go by americans are not going to like the things that some international ppl may say.
that all i was pointing out.

When Colette says "US" she means "ME".

Back when I was a new guy and hadn't found a group of people to run with I was all over the board and saw that a lot of people used Skype. LL most likely saw this and figured "why have people resort to an unrelated company when we coudl do it, integrate it into the browser and make it have more features (i.e. the stereo effect, group calling, etc.)

Now people have the option of not having to download extra software and switch between screens to talk to people...yet they still can if they want to.

They may not have specifically asked you, but they definitely picked up on a trend and decided to improve on it for us.

That can't hurt all that much, can it, Colette??

Well if those people can't tell the difference between an individual and their country then they aren't worth talking to anyway.

I guess international nerds aren't too different from American ones...angry and opinionated without the burden of logic or knowledge!

Closer to 60.



It was there - It just when America is doing something unpopular its much stronger.

There were similiar feelings about America during the last few years of Vietnam.



I dont doubt it. In the days of instant information exchange - politics enter into people's minds faster than ever. Many of those people dont make an effort to understand the reasons behind the politics and instead just go by the bullet points.

i do not know what you are basing this upon. 10 years ago the americans were not in nearly as much disrepute. this isnt a natural cycle, or the implied jealousy of the world. its a very real and deep running resentment for modern american diplomacy. an entire generation of american hating middle easterners has been created, having their lives bombed by americans and their parents killed by americans and such.
some people are even still annoyed the americans let their president steal his office (as they claim). like it or not, even if nobody voted for him he still represents you on the worlds stage. allowing him to do something makes you complicit, whether you like it or not.

look, all im saying is that in addition to the above points against voice one must take into account the effect of hearing an accent, and the rl feeling that introduces to sl.


this isnt about who is right or wrong, or who is justified in what. no matter what the case may be, americans will still hear things they dont like.

notice for example how even the recognision of this fact is annoying americans. my god what are you going to do when somebody actually starts taking the piss out the you? or having a go over something or another related to your american self?

Im looking at it through a much wider lens. In the 4000 or so years of recorded history this sort of things has happened countless times.

It is a natural cycle.

Now I can say that without disagreeing with you that our response to 9/11 and following wars in Iraq and Afghanastan added to how George Bush has represented them has hurt current world opinion.

But I dont think for one moment if the US had been a secondary world power and done all the same things that the international response would have been a fraction of what it has been.

ok then.

You don't really know what you're talking about. It's kind of a simplistic, jr. high liberalist idea you're trying to pass on. It doesn't hold true in most cases.

Most foreigners that are sophisticated enough to be on the internet or SL or in contact with people that are foreigners to them can comprehend the fact that all Americans don't equal the American government and are not responsible for what's going on.

I think we can handle what the limeys and frogs have to say!

God save me from people whose only ideas of another country come from mass media.

The word complcity iplies a crime. No one stole anything in regards to that election. That is a bunch of politically motivated bullshit. The system may have bee flawed and broken down, and tht worked to someone's advantage, but nothing was stolen. The people playing that song would have done the same thing if the situation were reversed. what we allowed to happen was our electoral process. A man was elected. it was disputed but never overturned. The opposition tried to remove him but couldn't. he was reelected. It didn't make me particularly happy either but it happens. We have an annoying habit of usually letting our elected officials finish their terms barring proven misconduct , and the occasional nutbag assasin. None of our European "Allies" has the moral high ground on Middle Eastern affairs. They've all had their turn as colonial master, and haven't done much better. It makes me sick to see when innocents are killed and injured by our mistakes are reported. Almost as sick as when I see the multitude more who are killed by their own people, that a lot of people seem to conveniently forget about. A news story wil devote 15 minutes on a tragic military accident , and as a postscript mentiom, "Oh yeah. Terrorists blew up a shopping mall, and killed 100 kids. More on the evil Americans after this message".

Has a sitting President EVER not been re-elected when he ran during a "War" I did a casual run down and its never happened.

Nina, you are confusing America with the United States government. I am damned proud to be an American. I do not claim the United States government as my own, nor does it represent me.

Not that I can think of. The don't change Horses mentality, I guess. Would have been interesting to see if LBJ would have gone for reelection.

whatever you think of it, be prepared to hear it in voice.
that is all.

I think this was generally true before Bush, but every time I think of this topic I remember the front cover of that British newspaper or whatever that ran the day after Bush's re-election was announced. Something about how can x number of people be this dumb.

I think that before Bush was re-elected people in the international community gave us the benefit of the doubt thinking we as a people had no reason to believe things would be this bad. The first election was absurd and the gov't proceeded immediately to ignore everything the people wanted, both foreign and domestic. Now I think we have lost that separation in the international community because given our knowledge of this President's effects on everything he touches, we re-elected him anyway.

I think I even remember our buddy that was behind the WTC attacks saying something about that. That we became inseparable from our government the moment we re-elected Bush. For the record, I can't blame people for thinking this way, but I would have come to that conclusion a lot earlier. I don't think there's any excuse for how the popular vote has been reduced to little more than a survey while the opinion of less than 10 people per state determines the election. We have not changed this, and what we allow to persist, we also condone...or something like that. I don't know...

Hehe the same could be said for Blair if anyone cared!

Well Nina, I guess you had me confused with someone who gave a damn what the rest of the world thinks.

and thats why the world loves you

I'm sure they must have asked some people. Just because they didn't ask you.

They asked the people in the beta grid, just for the record. So they did consult the community.

This is what I meant about never voting out a president during wartime.

Its never happend. Other people in the world are not going to get that.

It was a very close election, particularily for an incumbant, especially during wartime.

they asked people in the beta grid? before or after they had decided to introduce it?

And since when is the Beta Grid the Community? Its only a fractional subset of the community.

I am a lovable person.

Yeah, have-nots generally feel bitter about the haves.

The only reason other countries are against what we're doing is because we have the resources and power to do it and they don't.

It wasn't that long ago that France and England were occupying foreign lands for indefinite amounts of time...they called them "colonies".

Germany can't really comment for a while.

No other country has the right to play holier-than-thou against us. They're doing the same shit in different ways.

End patriotism.

I'm not down for the US government but not for the reasons toted in many followers' party lines and made popular in international media.