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Brenda Connolly
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06-11-2009 16:19
I better be careful. You know where I live. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Gabriele Graves
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06-11-2009 16:26
I better be careful. You know where I live.  VV_____________________
 Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you! |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-11-2009 19:21
More importantly, I know where you store the Huey VVGood thing it's Copy. _____________________
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Sindy Tsure
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06-11-2009 19:23
/me throws sheep at people until they get back on topic.
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Brenda Connolly
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06-11-2009 19:25
We're just keeping the thread upfront until some news come along.
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Gabriele Graves
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06-11-2009 19:59
Good thing it's Copy. Actually I keep expecting some buff new marine recruits to jump out of it at any time and begin training at your plot with you stood in front giving orders. *laughs* _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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06-11-2009 20:41
Darn! Foiled again! Actually I keep expecting some buff new marine recruits to jump out of it at any time and begin training at your plot with you stood in front giving orders. *laughs* I like the way you think. _____________________
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Nika Talaj
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Transcripts
06-11-2009 21:06
Yesterday, much of Blue's office hour was again devoted to the forums, and he also had a one-on-one convo with Brenda (heretofore to be known as The Chosen One
 ). He's okayed distribution of both transcripts, and they've been sent out as notices in the group, "The Forum Cartel". Even if you're religiously opposed to the group, you could still just join it for 5 minutes and pull them down inworld, or IM me and I'll get to it tomorrow sometime. I'm too lazy to clean out my PM box tonight, so go with an IM please.The transcript of Blue's June 3rd office hour on the Forums is here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Blue_Linden/Office_Hour_Transcripts/June_3rd%2C_2009 . |
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Gabriele Graves
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06-11-2009 21:16
Yesterday, much of Blue's office hour was again devoted to the forums, and he also had a one-on-one convo with Brenda (heretofore to be known as The Chosen One )._____________________
Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you! |
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Seven Okelli
last days of pompeii
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06-12-2009 07:37
These are my notes after reading Blue's office hour of 6/10/2009. Corrections are welcome.
Blue: - new forum categories will likely match the old - as new forums are ramped up they will have a broader feature set - features will be added gradually for fear of introducing bugs - (some features are standard and some are "home made" - some discussion of forum avatars; Blue acknowledges that many people don't want their inworld profile linked to their forum profile - "Legally, LL can't tell a volunteer to do certain thing, work specific hours, or oversee anyone." - third-party moderators have better coverage, standards - moderators shouldn't ban; they can escalate to RESI team - "I wanted to add to last week's discussion when we talked about whether or not forum action should reflect on inworld account. I followed up and learned that there's a legal aspect to that as well. ToS violations have to carry same discipline across the board for all LL spaces. If someone does something illegal on forums, they are removed from inworld." - "What's kind of funny to me... hearing for years how much people hated our forums upgraded or not, and then announcing replacement and hearing how much people love our forums. lol." Residents: - third party moderators need linden oversight - unified login is needed; having to log in to several systems is a PITA - some talk of differentiating users who are basic, premium, estate owners - forums should be for all, not only those who have paid accounts - premium accounts should have benefits - will group forums (such as Nova Albion's) still exist in the new framework? . _____________________
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Skell Dagger
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06-12-2009 08:01
I'm reading that transcript and one thing jumped out at me:
[16:19] Gayathri Linden: sorry, what's BBCode [...] [16:19] Blue Linden: hehe....BBCode is the formatting language for old blogs [...] [16:20] Gayathri Linden sadly has not used the Old Blogs much.   _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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06-12-2009 08:03
we are dooooomded
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LittleMe Jewell
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06-12-2009 08:18
Actually it's the other way around up here. The Government is now the Corporation. _____________________
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Seven Okelli
last days of pompeii
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06-12-2009 08:19
I'm reading that transcript and one thing jumped out at me: These young, with-it, techy types That must have been another day. My notes are for the one on 6/10/2009. I mean, what you said is still bad news. Just from another day. And "sadly" with a smiley face? . _____________________
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LittleMe Jewell
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06-12-2009 08:20
well prisoners could expand their skillset beyond simple license plates. theres a vast source of free labour available for government motors. It is abusive. _____________________
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-Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell |
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LittleMe Jewell
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06-12-2009 08:29
The transcript of Blue's June 3rd office hour on the Forums is here:http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Blue_Linden/Office_Hour_Transcripts/June_3rd%2C_2009 . nvm - I see that those are the ones from last week, the 3rd of June. _____________________
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-Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell |
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LittleMe Jewell
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06-12-2009 08:35
These are my notes after reading Blue's office hour of 6/10/2009. Corrections are welcome. Blue: - new forum categories will likely match the old - as new forums are ramped up they will have a broader feature set - features will be added gradually for fear of introducing bugs - (some features are standard and some are "home made" - some discussion of forum avatars; Blue acknowledges that many people don't want their inworld profile linked to their forum profile - "Legally, LL can't tell a volunteer to do certain thing, work specific hours, or oversee anyone." - third-party moderators have better coverage, standards - moderators shouldn't ban; they can escalate to RESI team - "I wanted to add to last week's discussion when we talked about whether or not forum action should reflect on inworld account. I followed up and learned that there's a legal aspect to that as well. ToS violations have to carry same discipline across the board for all LL spaces. If someone does something illegal on forums, they are removed from inworld." - "What's kind of funny to me... hearing for years how much people hated our forums upgraded or not, and then announcing replacement and hearing how much people love our forums. lol." Residents: - third party moderators need linden oversight - unified login is needed; having to log in to several systems is a PITA - some talk of differentiating users who are basic, premium, estate owners - forums should be for all, not only those who have paid accounts - premium accounts should have benefits - will group forums (such as Nova Albion's) will exist in the new framework? . The new forums will NOT look like the current Forum Answers blog crap that they now have in Beta -- though I have no clue why they bother to Beta something that is not what we will be seeing. The new forums will have most, if not all, of the features that we have now, but they might not all be there right away. We might not have *all* of the current sub-forums what we currently have. The moderation by third party is not a done deal yet and we might still be doing a ResMod program. Ultimately, Premiums should get some sort of benefits added, but Basics should not lose anything they already have. _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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06-12-2009 08:42
i just hope we get a forum and not a blog..if it is a step up from this one or acts the same as this one i'll be happy..just so we can continue..features are nice but really we've been doing without them for so long that a step up to me would be more smiles..
i just don't want a blog form of communication for a forum.. that's bleh although more goodies would be nice too hehehehe _____________________
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Seven Okelli
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06-12-2009 08:52
i just hope we get a forum and not a blog..if it is a step up from this one or acts the same as this one i'll be happy..just so we can continue..features are nice but really we've been doing without them for so long that a step up to me would be more smiles.. i just don't want a blog form of communication for a forum.. that's bleh although more goodies would be nice too hehehehe SL Answers beta is a bad, bad thing. I still think it's LL's vision for the future. Otherwise there was no sense in their putting it out for us to see. If they wanted a forum, they would have used forum software. Imagine if they told us they were previewing a new model for sims and invited us to go preview it, and it turned out to be a flat, cartoony, 2D thing with stick-figure avatars. And they said, "Features are coming. It won't look like this!" If it won't look like that, why are you showing it? I realize that Blue has said otherwise, the whole CNET thing, but I am looking at what I've been SHOWN. . _____________________
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Nika Talaj
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06-12-2009 08:54
The new forums will NOT look like the current Forum Answers blog crap that they now have in Beta -- though I have no clue why they bother to Beta something that is not what we will be seeing. If that turns out to be the case, I'll be pushing for a united navigation structure that places SL Answers as just another category in the entire Forums + Blog Discussions set of threads. AAAND, then we would need two new areas added to the Forum structure given to Blue: "Life in SL" --- The place formerly known as Resident Answers, where "Is it cheating"? and "What kind of land is right for meeee?" and "How do I improve my sales?" goes. I think these just are not handleable in the SL Answers format. There's got to be a better name for this, thots? "Off Topic" -- No, this was not in the original proposal. Although most folks who replied to the thread(s) discussing forum structure wanted Off Topic, Qie and I decided that including it would jeopardize adoption of the rest of the structure, given the political climate at the time. I would still argue for not permitting threads on politics, religion and other flashpoint topics. A sane moderator would tolerate occasional mention of these, so long as the thread did not focus on them. . |
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Seven Okelli
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06-12-2009 09:00
SL Answers beta is presented as the future. Blue says it isn't, but everything in writing and everything that LL has officially put forward is about SL Answers beta.
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Ceka Cianci
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06-12-2009 09:06
SL Answers beta is a bad, bad thing. I still think it's LL's vision for the future. Otherwise there was no sense in their putting it out for us to see. If they wanted a forum, they would have used forum software. . just wishful thinking on my part..the forums had become part of my sl..half will be gone now because really i don't see moving to an outside forum ran by a user.. there is too much bias in those..where here even though there are no mods everyone still had the same power as the next even if they did not realize it.. blogs the comments fall into a deep pit of easy to control topics and we lose a big part of sl community bonding.. blogs are cold and hidden.. at least here people put up links to the blogs if something important showed.. we lose that as well now and so much more.. _____________________
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Nika Talaj
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06-12-2009 09:43
Actually, straight old forums were the first or second application Jive Software released, I think. LL just chose to put up the shinier blog stuff first.
See: http://forums.oracle.com Oracle moderates that site so it's very dry, no lolcats! but as you see it's a pretty straightforward classic forum, based on the same software suite - Clearspace - used for LL's blogs. According to her profile, Gayathri Linden is a program manager. That's a very nose-to-the-grindstone job, where you spend ALL your time making sure that everyone who is actually doing work gets it done on time and has what they need to finish. So she should be spending very little of her time, other than dropping in on the occasional meeting, with residents. Blue, however, is a user experience specialist, so he spends a lot of time with us. . |
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Brenda Connolly
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06-12-2009 09:48
Sorry, extreme liberals have already ruled that we cannot make our prisoners work for free anymore. It is abusive. Only law abiding citizens will now be required to toil for the State. The teleprompter in chief has decreed it. _____________________
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Seven Okelli
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06-12-2009 09:51
According to her profile, Gayathri Linden is a program manager. That's a very nose-to-the-grindstone job, where you spend ALL your time making sure that everyone who is actually doing work gets it done on time and has what they need to finish. So she should be spending very little of her time, other than dropping in on the occasional meeting, with residents. Blue, however, is a user experience specialist, so he spends a lot of time with us. . Glad you clarified that - it was the impression she gave. . _____________________
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