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Strauss Ulderport
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02-22-2008 13:43
From: Amy Loam
In a mature sim, I think it should be the operater of the child avies's responsibility to remove themselves from the situation. Either this or allow minors onto the main grid and ban all sexual content and bad language.

Under 18's are not allowed on the main grid because of certain activities, What is the point of this if we still end up walking on eggshells because adults who choose to play children are also not allowed to witness or join in these activities.


QFT!

These are NOT children. They are adults behind the k/b. Period.

So if someone wishes to rp a child avi explorer come into our house while my SO and I are doing our thing, I'll wave, say hello and ask if they brought popcorn for the show. Because I know its really a adult and nothing I am doing is truely affecting that person.

What is unacceptable is if I am FORCED to rp with the 'child' and act as if they are indeed one. Thats silly.
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Raudf Fox
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02-22-2008 13:45
From: Soji Slade
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Aki Linden
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Thankee for the threads! Educational, for sure and good to see she did exist ;)
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Marianne McCann
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02-22-2008 14:07
Looks like there are some changes on the neighbor's land. The slave auction area now has a wall that goes up about 20m (which ruins my view... but improves it at the same time), alphaede on the opposite side. No changes yet on the opposite side, but I will assume that may be in the works.

Also, cuz I saw someone posted a SLURL over there -- please don't harass them on my behalf if ya can? I do hafta live next door, and dun wanna end up in some sort of war, kay?

Mari
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Stormy Dyrssen
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02-22-2008 14:09
From: Marianne McCann
Looks like there are some changes on the neighbor's land. The slave auction area now has a wall that goes up about 20m (which ruins my view... but improves it at the same time), alphaede on the opposite side. No changes yet on the opposite side, but I will assume that may be in the works.

Also, cuz I saw someone posted a SLURL over there -- please don't harass them on my behalf if ya can? I do hafta live next door, and dun wanna end up in some sort of war, kay?

Mari


Yay! Good to hear something is being done! No worries here about visiting from this girl. I have no desire or curiosity to see what has been happening over there........ :eek:
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JamesMichael Morane
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02-22-2008 15:34


Thanx, Saucey ~ do I type that into the search thing?
Raudf Fox
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02-22-2008 15:53
Paste the url into your browser and hit enter.. it'll take you to a map of SL and ask if you want to teleport there. Tell it your do and it'll send you on your way.
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3Ring Binder
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02-22-2008 16:30
Let me quote the relevent points:
From: Phil Deakins
... Rebecca <snip> was comparing the time on both sides. It was like saying, it takes 3 years to complete WoW, and it takes 3 years to complete a college education.
<snip>
It may take twice as much effort to complete a college education as it does to complete WoW, but it takes the same time. That's what Rebecca said - it takes the same amount of time.

Colette changed it, and responded as though Rebecca had said that it takes the same amount of effort. <more snippage>

so, in the many years of college, you are putting in time and effort, but in WOW you are only putting in time in those same amount of years?

were you sleeping while WOW time passed, or were you playing the game, mastering it, and actually using your brain and eye-hand coordination skills?

how is this not the same thing? really Phil. i don't get your logic.
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Saucey Barbecue
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02-22-2008 16:39
From: JamesMichael Morane
Thanx, Saucey ~ do I type that into the search thing?

Click on it. It'll take you the the slurl web mappy thingy, which will offer a button you can click on. When you do that it'll fire up the SL client and you'll log in there.
Spanky Rossini
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02-22-2008 16:56
I think that its possible to condemn something as broadly offensive as bestiality while at the same time not interfering with the liberty of consenting adults to conduct themselves as they see fit behind closed doors. This is not being judgmental, it is simply acknowledging that there is a definite line that can be crossed between liberty and indecency and any form of bestiality going on in the open without question crosses this line in polite society, even as it relates to this incident in SL.

I think its very appropriate for people to be outraged by this sort of thing happening out
in the open, particularly liberal minded people who value their liberty and freedom. This is a flagrant abuse of freedom and an insult to those who conduct themselves in a responsible manner. Bestiality itself is considered universally unacceptable for reasons that require no explanation. It seems to be the last sexual boundary that hasn't been crossed and I think it should stay that way and certainly not lumped in with other legitimate sexual liberties that people have fought to gain acceptance for, and certainly should not be tolerated in public. (the line has to be drawn somewhere doesn't it?)

I am all for personal liberties but common sense says that to have this sort of behavior going on out in the open or to defend it and contribute to its normalization clearly crosses the line, (and is counterproductive in defending personal liberties) just as it would cross the line to involve yourself with the private affairs of others regarding sexual matters or to seek out people who engage in bestiality and harass them.
Lana Tomba
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02-22-2008 17:03
we haven't even mentioned snuff films ,.....necrophelia...or cannibalism :rolleyes:

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Ann Launay
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02-22-2008 17:11
Pixels, prims, and polygons...no animals, no actual human body parts, ergo, no bestiality.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Benn Uggla
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02-22-2008 17:16
Hi.

Hope you get this issue resolved.
Spanky Rossini
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02-22-2008 17:29
From: Ann Launay
Pixels, prims, and polygons...no animals, no actual human body parts, ergo, no bestiality.


This is true and thats why i would be against going into other people's business and persecuting them for what they choose to be interested in no matter how vile and disgusting, like searching someone's computer and putting them in prison for thinking about bestiality, which I am sure has happened somewhere. But on SL there is a clear depiction of this behavior and its still completely inappropriate and should not be tolerated in the open. It only serves to marginalize some of the legitimate perversions that we all like to engage in from time to time and makes it harder to defend our liberties.
Swan Legend
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02-22-2008 17:29
From: Marianne McCann
Looks like there are some changes on the neighbor's land. The slave auction area now has a wall that goes up about 20m (which ruins my view... but improves it at the same time), alphaede on the opposite side. No changes yet on the opposite side, but I will assume that may be in the works.

Also, cuz I saw someone posted a SLURL over there -- please don't harass them on my behalf if ya can? I do hafta live next door, and dun wanna end up in some sort of war, kay?

Mari



you start this thread and complain about what other grown adults do on their own parcel (when you have the ability to mute them and build walls, carry on with your life without making a big issue of it) you post your updates, inciting the anger of all the conservatives on this forum (who are making personal attacks and long winded speeches, biblical quotes even), then you go to Linden governance meeting and complain about your neighbors there as well. (i didnt attend but i heard ALL about it after by people laughing at your expense) and if i heard you right you even brought a Linden over to check out your neighbors parcel.

Youre not fooling anyone Mari. asking people not to harass your neighbors, after all your efforts to paint them as villains, is the most comical statement ive ever read from you. i know you think that being an sl kid will protect you from this type of confrontation. but youre a grown adult. what youre doing is wrong. not only are you creating unnecessary problems for your neighbors, who probably dont have the first clue about your fixation with their little farm/slave post. but you are also doing a huge disservice to the entire sl kid population in sl. Drawing negative attention to the age play community with your childish antics.

grow up already.

and to the people who were harassing Colette, just because she had an opinion different then your own, shame on you. You should really be ashamed.

Har is the most level-headed person who wrote in this thread. Too bad his words are lost on so many people.
Ann Launay
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02-22-2008 17:44
Swan, what the hell are you talking about? Mari didn't paint anyone as anything. She asked for advice regarding something she was uncomfortable about, and she gave updates because people asked. The chaos of this thread had NOTHING to do with her.

Mari is one of the kindest, most reasonable people on this forum, and there was no call to attack her like that.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Swan Legend
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02-22-2008 17:46
From: Ann Launay
Swan, what the hell are you talking about? Mari didn't paint anyone as anything. She asked for advice regarding something she was uncomfortable about, and she gave updates because people asked. The chaos of this thread had NOTHING to do with her.

Mari is one of the kindest, most reasonable people on this forum, and there was no call to attack her like that.



yes she is inciting all kinds of trouble. none of it wouldve been an issue if she didnt make it one. you know its true. no one was threatening her at all.
Chris Norse
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02-22-2008 17:51
Swan, the Biblical quotes were meant as a joke.
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Ann Launay
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02-22-2008 18:02
From: Swan Legend
yes she is inciting all kinds of trouble. none of it wouldve been an issue if she didnt make it one. you know its true. no one was threatening her at all.


I know no such thing. As a child av, that sort of thing has the potential to place Mari in a more precarious position than it might you or I. And Mari is the LAST person I would ever accuse of trying to incite trouble.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Swan Legend
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02-22-2008 18:10
From: Ann Launay
I know no such thing. As a child av, that sort of thing has the potential to place Mari in a more precarious position than it might you or I. And Mari is the LAST person I would ever accuse of trying to incite trouble.



no way! the entire matter didnt need brought to anyone's attention unless it became an issue directly to Mari. all she had to do was build walls or mute or use a security orb, any number of things she could have done to handle the situation without turning it into a huge drama.

but not only did she not do anything proactive to fix the situation, she made it into an enormous issue when it didnt have to be an issue at all. she even complained at a governance meeting! she even brought a Linden to the property! w t f.

you need to stop talking about Mari as if she is untouchable.
Ann Launay
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02-22-2008 18:23
From: Swan Legend


you need to stop talking about Mari as if she is untouchable.


I'm not. I'm saying her behavior on these boards have shown her to be eminently reasonable. And I don't believe the motives you seem to be assigning her are at all likely.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Raudf Fox
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02-22-2008 18:29
Ann, stop feedin' the trolls, unless it's to my chipper!

You're wasting time and effort on a case that is probably best shrugged off and left alone. The truth is here in the thread and anyone with half a brain can see she doesn't need defending ;)
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Tiana Whitfield
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02-22-2008 18:30
Any resident is entitled to ask for any advice on this forum regarding Second Life and their enjoyment of it.
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Swan Legend
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02-22-2008 18:32
From: Ann Launay
I'm not. I'm saying her behavior on these boards have shown her to be eminently reasonable. And I don't believe the motives you seem to be assigning her are at all likely.



i refrain from offering an opinion on her motives. i dont judge people the way sooo many others on this forum does. however, regardless of motive or intent, what she is doing is more harm the helpful. if she claims her intent is to define the rules, i will laugh. the rules are clearly defined. she had no reason to expect backlash because of her neighbors.

Regardless, it was her choice to live on a mature parcel. of course she says its not her fault, her parents like to have lovings. so if her parents like to have lovings and she can tolerate living around that, then why cant she show the same tolerance for her neighbors? its hypocrisy. sl kids should be treated the same as adults outside of rp because guess what? they are adults. and i wish this one would act like one.
Swan Legend
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02-22-2008 18:34
From: Tiana Whitfield
Any resident is entitled to ask for any advice on this forum regarding Second Life and their enjoyment of it.



and im entitled to give my opinion on it as well. whats your point?
Tiana Whitfield
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02-22-2008 18:36
From: Swan Legend
and im entitled to give my opinion it as well. whats your point?


I am not trying to make a point. I am stating a fact. This forum is for the residents of Second Life to ask for advice regarding their use of Second Life.

Hope this helps.
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