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Curtis Dresler

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06-25-2008 05:49

From: Sredni Eel

And please, for the love of God, learn proper use of plurals. If you have a word that ends in Y and you want to pluralize it, you add an IES at the end, and not a Y'S.

Example: I have fifty bunny's should actually read I have fifty bunnIES.

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Although, interestingly, Y's as a plural of Y, the letter, is correct and still slightly the preferred method (toss up - this one is headed IMO the other way - Ys will be the preferred method soon and both are acceptable now). Same, same with numbers, other than the use for decades or centuries, as in 1900s.

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06-25-2008 05:57

From: Whyspe Wylie

...My pet peeve is the overuse and misuse of quotes. People seem to have decided that they're used for emphasis. "Fresh" vegetables, "Quality" materials. Drives me nuts.
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Quotes are properly used in those phrases, but usually to indicate that the adjective or adverb is not really correct, much as people use the finger-quote sign in conversation to indicate that it was what the person said, but not necessarily what was true.

I'm not sure that I have seen them used for just emphasis, but then, again, I probably assumed they were using them as above and blew right past the misuse. I'm guessing if it were their "fresh" vegetables, they didn't sell me any.

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06-25-2008 05:57

From: Phil Deakins

Although there was nothing wrong with using the word "hate" (anyone who thinks it's wrong to hate something is very much mistaken)

so you do in fact hate pets then? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. /cries.

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06-25-2008 06:01

From: Marianne McCann

Gripin' 'bout spellin' an grammar? Dat's unpossible!

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06-25-2008 06:51

heaven forbid someone with dyslexia should post, most of the lot in here would think them an uneducated retard

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06-25-2008 07:00

Is anyone else annoyed by advertisers' use of "Free Gift" ?

Are we so cynical that we must suspect a gift to have some cost attached unless someone assures us that it is, indeed, free?

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06-25-2008 07:06

I may have to adopt a new puppy and call it Peeve

I want a Pet Peeve of my own! Is it ok to pet peeves?

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06-25-2008 07:45

With quotation marks, I usually use double quotes for actually quoting something or someone, and single quotes for hilighting words and phrases, but that's just my personal way of using them.

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06-25-2008 07:52

From: Amaranthim Talon

Is it ok to pet peeves?

I heard they bite.

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06-25-2008 07:54

From: Damien1 Thorne

I heard they bite.

/me smiles

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06-25-2008 09:06

two (2) is the proper way to do it. It covers your a**

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06-25-2008 09:27

Thanks, Rebecca. I love learning new words.

Of all the things mentioned in this thread so far the one I had never noticed is Phil's then/than substitution. To me that is just a perfectly understandable typo. It never occurred to me that anyone was confused about the meanings of the two words. And if they are it still falls pretty low on my list of things to worry about.

From: Curtis Dresler

From: Whyspe Wylie

...My pet peeve is the overuse and misuse of quotes. People seem to have decided that they're used for emphasis. "Fresh" vegetables, "Quality" materials. Drives me nuts.
...

Quotes are properly used in those phrases, but usually to indicate that the adjective or adverb is not really correct, much as people use the finger-quote sign in conversation to indicate that it was what the person said, but not necessarily what was true.

I'm not sure that I have seen them used for just emphasis, but then, again, I probably assumed they were using them as above and blew right past the misuse. I'm guessing if it were their "fresh" vegetables, they didn't sell me any.

I see this all the time and sometimes it gives me a little chuckle. But I tend to assume that the person who wrote the sign is not trying to be ironic and the vegetables likely are fresh.

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06-25-2008 09:43

Heh, for some reason, the talk about quotes around words made me think of those signs you see that say "Live Nude Girls!"

I mean...

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06-25-2008 09:47

From: Phil Deakins

With quotation marks, I usually use double quotes for actually quoting something or someone, and single quotes for hilighting words and phrases, but that's just my personal way of using them.

And I'll probably understand without considering it to be a problem but the only correct use of quotation marks is to indicate words that were spoken or written by a person being quoted. "Fresh" Vegetables does indeed mean that the freshness has been claimed but not proven.

In the U.S. primary quotes use ("

and (') is for a quotation within a quotation. eg Bob said, "The last last thing Sally said was, 'good-bye'."

In the U.K. it's the opposite. Bob said, 'The last last thing Sally said was, "good-bye".'

For emphasis you can use italics or CAPS or *asterisks*

But lots of people do use quotes and most of us know what is meant.

Maybe the then/than thing is just some people's personal way of using them?

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06-25-2008 09:47

From: Maureen Boccaccio

Heh, for some reason, the talk about quotes around words made me think of those signs you see that say "Live Nude Girls!"

I mean...

At least it isn't "Live" Nude Girls!

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06-25-2008 09:49

From: Kaimi Kyomoon

At least it isn't "Live" Nude Girls!

LOL! Well, it very well may have been! That's why I found the signs so...startling and amusing.

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06-25-2008 09:52

From: Maureen Boccaccio

LOL! Well, it very well may have been! That's why I found the signs so...startling and amusing.

It makes them seem like animated wax figures or something.

*giggle* Live "Nude" Girls or Live Nude "Girls".

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06-25-2008 09:56

From: Kaimi Kyomoon

It makes them seem like animated wax figures or something.

*giggle* Live "Nude" Girls or Live Nude "Girls".

hehe... I think I saw one of those signs down on PCH, near Laurel, on the way to Lindbergh Field...

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06-25-2008 10:02

This thread needs an intervention.

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06-25-2008 10:22

From: Slack Zapedzki

pRICELESS.

tYPING WITH THE CAPS LOCK KEY ACCIDENTALLY ON........is clearly grounds for suicide and ritual burial.

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06-25-2008 10:23

From: Macphisto Angelus

Knowing how much my posts have been under a microscope (I fall into many of the "pet peeves", etc in this thread) makes me sad.

A failed product of my school system, a lazy student who felt socializing was more fun or simply an "uneducated" or "stupid" person simply for improper word phrasing.

Well, I did not expect some of the people in this thread to flash their grammar forum cop badges. Thank God for my firefox spell check as already you would have seen 6 misspelled words in this post alone. What an idiot I must be, right?

Wilde, this is not a blast at you but at the entire thread. I really had no clue all these pet peeves were so important to people that they needed to be brought out to shame some of us.

Good God, people talk about how they are so damn accepting of things considered hot buttons in SL but on a fucking forum people who do not reach their superior intellect and grammar skills are "stupid". Well fuck that. Happy Mac is pretty surprised right now so excuse me for my language.

Thanks for the grammar lessons in this thread.. and the bigger lesson some of us are walking away with too.

Well said MacPhi, well said.

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06-25-2008 10:45

I don't think everyone in this thread was blasting people who make mistakes or whose grammar isn't perfect. It certainly wasn't my intention to do so with my posts. I love the language and I find it fascinating to watch the way it changes and evolves. Mine was merely an academic observation about the way certain words are being used in a way that clearly conveys the message that the speaker intends to convey, but which is technically wrong.

My .02: The message is more important than the delivery, but the delivery has a huge effect on the message. I don't think anything negative about anybody who misuses words or who doesn't have perfect grammar - I'm as guilty as they are. The only time it gets to me is when the message is so poorly written that it is unintelligible. Then, I'm more like to ignore the post than judge the poster.

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06-25-2008 10:48

From: Maureen Boccaccio

hehe... I think I saw one of those signs down on PCH, near Laurel, on the way to Lindbergh Field...

Yup. Local color.

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06-25-2008 10:49

From: Phil Deakins

With quotation marks, I usually use double quotes for actually quoting something or someone, and single quotes for hilighting words and phrases, but that's just my personal way of using them.

"Hilighting," isn't a word, but if you must use it then at least say "hi-lighting."

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06-25-2008 10:50

From: Rebecca Proudhon

tYPING WITH THE CAPS LOCK KEY ACCIDENTALLY ON........is clearly grounds for suicide and ritual burial.

AND CLEANSING CEREMONY! oops. drat.

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Wrongly used words - a pet hate
Curtis Dresler Registered User Join date: 6 Apr 2008 Posts: 155	06-25-2008 05:49 From: Sredni Eel And please, for the love of God, learn proper use of plurals. If you have a word that ends in Y and you want to pluralize it, you add an IES at the end, and not a Y'S. Example: I have fifty bunny's should actually read I have fifty bunnIES. QUOTE] Although, interestingly, Y's as a plural of Y, the letter, is correct and still slightly the preferred method (toss up - this one is headed IMO the other way - Ys will be the preferred method soon and both are acceptable now). Same, same with numbers, other than the use for decades or centuries, as in 1900s.
Curtis Dresler Registered User Join date: 6 Apr 2008 Posts: 155	06-25-2008 05:57 From: Whyspe Wylie ...My pet peeve is the overuse and misuse of quotes. People seem to have decided that they're used for emphasis. "Fresh" vegetables, "Quality" materials. Drives me nuts. ... QUOTE] Quotes are properly used in those phrases, but usually to indicate that the adjective or adverb is not really correct, much as people use the finger-quote sign in conversation to indicate that it was what the person said, but not necessarily what was true. I'm not sure that I have seen them used for just emphasis, but then, again, I probably assumed they were using them as above and blew right past the misuse. I'm guessing if it were their "fresh" vegetables, they didn't sell me any.
Vampaerus Wysznik bad lurker Join date: 12 Apr 2008 Posts: 1,011	06-25-2008 05:57 From: Phil Deakins Although there was nothing wrong with using the word "hate" (anyone who thinks it's wrong to hate something is very much mistaken) so you do in fact hate pets then? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. /cries. _____________________ Small scale web hosting for your SL or RL. Payable monthly in L$.
Curtis Dresler Registered User Join date: 6 Apr 2008 Posts: 155	06-25-2008 06:01 From: Marianne McCann Gripin' 'bout spellin' an grammar? Dat's unpossible! Mari A Jimmy Durante fan? A man for this thread - made a career of bad grammar and good timing. The nose helped...
Maggie McArdle FIOS hates puppies Join date: 8 May 2006 Posts: 2,855	06-25-2008 06:51 heaven forbid someone with dyslexia should post, most of the lot in here would think them an uneducated retard _____________________ There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
Brann Georgia Spits infinitives Join date: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,441	06-25-2008 07:00 Is anyone else annoyed by advertisers' use of "Free Gift" ? Are we so cynical that we must suspect a gift to have some cost attached unless someone assures us that it is, indeed, free? . _____________________ * *
Amaranthim Talon Voyager, Seeker, Curious Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 12,032	06-25-2008 07:06 I may have to adopt a new puppy and call it Peeve I want a Pet Peeve of my own! Is it ok to pet peeves? _____________________ "Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. " Robert A. Heinlein http://talonfaire.blogspot.com/ Visit Talon Faire Main: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store XStreets: http://tinyurl.com/6r7ayn
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	06-25-2008 07:45 With quotation marks, I usually use double quotes for actually quoting something or someone, and single quotes for hilighting words and phrases, but that's just my personal way of using them. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Damien1 Thorne Registered User Join date: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 4,877	06-25-2008 07:52 From: Amaranthim Talon Is it ok to pet peeves? I heard they bite.
Amaranthim Talon Voyager, Seeker, Curious Join date: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 12,032	06-25-2008 07:54 From: Damien1 Thorne I heard they bite. /me smiles _____________________ "Yield to temptation. It may not pass your way again. " Robert A. Heinlein http://talonfaire.blogspot.com/ Visit Talon Faire Main: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Misto%20Presto/216/21/155- Main Store XStreets: http://tinyurl.com/6r7ayn
Kira Cuddihy Registered User Join date: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 1,375	06-25-2008 09:06 two (2) is the proper way to do it. It covers your a** _____________________
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	06-25-2008 09:27 Thanks, Rebecca. I love learning new words. Of all the things mentioned in this thread so far the one I had never noticed is Phil's then/than substitution. To me that is just a perfectly understandable typo. It never occurred to me that anyone was confused about the meanings of the two words. And if they are it still falls pretty low on my list of things to worry about. From: Curtis Dresler From: Whyspe Wylie ...My pet peeve is the overuse and misuse of quotes. People seem to have decided that they're used for emphasis. "Fresh" vegetables, "Quality" materials. Drives me nuts. ... Quotes are properly used in those phrases, but usually to indicate that the adjective or adverb is not really correct, much as people use the finger-quote sign in conversation to indicate that it was what the person said, but not necessarily what was true. I'm not sure that I have seen them used for just emphasis, but then, again, I probably assumed they were using them as above and blew right past the misuse. I'm guessing if it were their "fresh" vegetables, they didn't sell me any. I see this all the time and sometimes it gives me a little chuckle. But I tend to assume that the person who wrote the sign is not trying to be ironic and the vegetables likely are fresh. _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.
Maureen Boccaccio TWJKFA Join date: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 14,484	06-25-2008 09:43 Heh, for some reason, the talk about quotes around words made me think of those signs you see that say "Live Nude Girls!" I mean...
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	06-25-2008 09:47 From: Phil Deakins With quotation marks, I usually use double quotes for actually quoting something or someone, and single quotes for hilighting words and phrases, but that's just my personal way of using them. And I'll probably understand without considering it to be a problem but the only correct use of quotation marks is to indicate words that were spoken or written by a person being quoted. "Fresh" Vegetables does indeed mean that the freshness has been claimed but not proven. In the U.S. primary quotes use (" and (') is for a quotation within a quotation. eg Bob said, "The last last thing Sally said was, 'good-bye'." In the U.K. it's the opposite. Bob said, 'The last last thing Sally said was, "good-bye".' For emphasis you can use italics or CAPS or asterisks But lots of people do use quotes and most of us know what is meant. Maybe the then/than thing is just some people's personal way of using them? _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	06-25-2008 09:47 From: Maureen Boccaccio Heh, for some reason, the talk about quotes around words made me think of those signs you see that say "Live Nude Girls!" I mean... At least it isn't "Live" Nude Girls! _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.
Maureen Boccaccio TWJKFA Join date: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 14,484	06-25-2008 09:49 From: Kaimi Kyomoon At least it isn't "Live" Nude Girls! LOL! Well, it very well may have been! That's why I found the signs so...startling and amusing.
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	06-25-2008 09:52 From: Maureen Boccaccio LOL! Well, it very well may have been! That's why I found the signs so...startling and amusing. It makes them seem like animated wax figures or something. giggle Live "Nude" Girls or Live Nude "Girls". _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.
Maureen Boccaccio TWJKFA Join date: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 14,484	06-25-2008 09:56 From: Kaimi Kyomoon It makes them seem like animated wax figures or something. giggle Live "Nude" Girls or Live Nude "Girls". hehe... I think I saw one of those signs down on PCH, near Laurel, on the way to Lindbergh Field...
Zaphod Kotobide zOMGWTFPME! Join date: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,087	06-25-2008 10:02 This thread needs an intervention. _____________________ From: Albert Einstein Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them.
Rebecca Proudhon (TM) Join date: 3 May 2006 Posts: 1,686	06-25-2008 10:22 From: Slack Zapedzki pRICELESS. tYPING WITH THE CAPS LOCK KEY ACCIDENTALLY ON........is clearly grounds for suicide and ritual burial.
Maggie McArdle FIOS hates puppies Join date: 8 May 2006 Posts: 2,855	06-25-2008 10:23 From: Macphisto Angelus Knowing how much my posts have been under a microscope (I fall into many of the "pet peeves", etc in this thread) makes me sad. A failed product of my school system, a lazy student who felt socializing was more fun or simply an "uneducated" or "stupid" person simply for improper word phrasing. Well, I did not expect some of the people in this thread to flash their grammar forum cop badges. Thank God for my firefox spell check as already you would have seen 6 misspelled words in this post alone. What an idiot I must be, right? Wilde, this is not a blast at you but at the entire thread. I really had no clue all these pet peeves were so important to people that they needed to be brought out to shame some of us. Good God, people talk about how they are so damn accepting of things considered hot buttons in SL but on a fucking forum people who do not reach their superior intellect and grammar skills are "stupid". Well fuck that. Happy Mac is pretty surprised right now so excuse me for my language. Thanks for the grammar lessons in this thread.. and the bigger lesson some of us are walking away with too. Well said MacPhi, well said. _____________________ There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
Trout Recreant Public Enemy No. 1 Join date: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 4,873	06-25-2008 10:45 I don't think everyone in this thread was blasting people who make mistakes or whose grammar isn't perfect. It certainly wasn't my intention to do so with my posts. I love the language and I find it fascinating to watch the way it changes and evolves. Mine was merely an academic observation about the way certain words are being used in a way that clearly conveys the message that the speaker intends to convey, but which is technically wrong. My .02: The message is more important than the delivery, but the delivery has a huge effect on the message. I don't think anything negative about anybody who misuses words or who doesn't have perfect grammar - I'm as guilty as they are. The only time it gets to me is when the message is so poorly written that it is unintelligible. Then, I'm more like to ignore the post than judge the poster. _____________________ From: Jerboa Haystack A Trout Rating (tm) is something to cherish. To flaunt and be proud of. It is something all women should aspire to obtain!
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	06-25-2008 10:48 From: Maureen Boccaccio hehe... I think I saw one of those signs down on PCH, near Laurel, on the way to Lindbergh Field... Yup. Local color. _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.
Rebecca Proudhon (TM) Join date: 3 May 2006 Posts: 1,686	06-25-2008 10:49 From: Phil Deakins With quotation marks, I usually use double quotes for actually quoting something or someone, and single quotes for hilighting words and phrases, but that's just my personal way of using them. "Hilighting," isn't a word, but if you must use it then at least say "hi-lighting."
Kaimi Kyomoon Kah-EE-mee Join date: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 5,664	06-25-2008 10:50 From: Rebecca Proudhon tYPING WITH THE CAPS LOCK KEY ACCIDENTALLY ON........is clearly grounds for suicide and ritual burial. AND CLEANSING CEREMONY! oops. drat. _____________________ Kaimi's Normal Wear From: 3Ring Binder i think people are afraid of me or something.

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