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Kascha Matova
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06-22-2008 22:51
From: Lancer Bardach
On the other hand, the people who talk about how SL is an avenue of self-expression and creativity, delving into perspective and such make me laugh. Tell me, Sigmund Freud, exactly how does creating a squirrel/human hybrid avatar with tits the size of pumpkins and a cock that would make an African Elephant cry open up your creativity? Explain to me how that expresses your self(other than a love of TEH HAWT CYBERSECKS)?


Oh so you've met my "manager" then? I hope he gave you an answer about how he combined all those body parts on one frame because whenever I ask he goes into that tired spiel about how he's re-purposed my mouth and then rifles through my purse claiming I'm holding out on him! :D

Macphisto! Wait for me!!! I wanna be a deevie-ant too!
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Macphisto Angelus
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06-22-2008 22:55
From: Kascha Matova


Macphisto! Wait for me!!!


Oh, no worries. We don't stray far or fast from here. :)
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Damien1 Thorne
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06-22-2008 23:04
From: Kascha Matova
Macphisto! Wait for me!!! I wanna be a deevie-ant too!

Just make sure you pop over to the thread pull up a chair and say hello. Someone will tie you to the chair. :p
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Macphisto Angelus
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06-22-2008 23:05
From: Damien1 Thorne
Just make sure you pop over to the thread pull up a chair and say hello. Someone will tie you to the chair. :p


Yes, come meet us in the thread "just ignore and let this one die". We get way more deviant in there. Mwahahahahaha

ok.. maybe that is a stretch.. but we would love for you to join us. :)
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Kascha Matova
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06-22-2008 23:15
From: Macphisto Angelus
Yes, come meet us in the thread "just ignore and let this one die". We get way more deviant in there. Mwahahahahaha

ok.. maybe that is a stretch.. but we would love for you to join us. :)


I must, therefore I shall :D
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06-22-2008 23:17
From: Kascha Matova
I must, therefore I shall :D


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Tegg Bode
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06-23-2008 00:21
From: Macphisto Angelus
Thank you for my new desktop.

You just replaced Selene from Underworld. :D

Early on in "the thread" I said that the thread does not wear the red shirt! :D


Personally I find Selene a lot more appealing, though I haven't seen Spock in Latex & a Corset :)
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FD Spark
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06-23-2008 00:36
I have big complaint.
It doesn't seem like there enough deviant stuff going on.
Now that I am owner of several male sculpted appendages and poseballs and in more of deviant mind set to welcome all those deviant activities I hear that exist seem to be very hidden or not that interesting that I have stumbled upon.
Most I see grey, lagged sims with few naked bodies now and then.
Though I did get offer by some cute male stranger in middle of store earlier but he left very suddenly I guess he crashed or ran off scared.
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Marcel Flatley
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06-23-2008 00:39
From: FD Spark
I have big complaint.
It doesn't seem like there enough deviant stuff going on.
Now that I am owner of several male sculpted appendages and poseball and in more of deviant mind site all those deviant activities I hear that exist seem to be very hidden or not that interesting.
Most I see grey, lagged sims with few naked bodies now and then.


QFT !!
How on earth (or in space) did such a promising thread slide towards a trekkie thread? Where is the kinky stuff? Where are the sexx0rs?

Ow... you mean in-world? Mzzzz dunno about that.
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06-23-2008 00:51
This thread reminds me of the time I accidentally stumble upon the G rated version of the lesbian bdsm star trek chatroom but whole lot less graphic when I was using PINE
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Vampaerus Wysznik
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06-23-2008 01:45
PINE? pshaw. Elm was way better. :D
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06-23-2008 02:14
From: Vampaerus Wysznik
PINE? pshaw. Elm was way better. :D

Haha

Its a ancient program the computer cafe I used had with their rain machines in the late 90's
It had neon green font and black screen very little graphics.
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Kelli May
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06-23-2008 02:19
From: Victorria Paine
Simple solution: take SL at face value, and nothing more. Don't assume anything you see or do in SL reflects anything in reality, and you will get along just fine. The problems come along when people start melding SL and RL together, pierce the veil between the two, and begin to expect consistency between the two -- you're setting yourself up for pain, in my opinion, if you do that.

If you keep them separate, why do you care about the gender or anything else of the person behind the avatar you are interacting with? Of course, I know not everyone in SL approaches SL this way, but if you seriously think that a virtual world like SL where people can choose to appear how they want and do what they want will reflect in many cases who the person is in real life, you're incredibly naive.

QFT - maybe we can get LL to add something like this to the FAQ or even Community Standards. (haha, only serious)
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06-23-2008 02:24
From: Maggiedoll Alter
What if I say LOL when I"m depressed and not laughing? don't think that's actually a lie unless I were in a session with an SL therapist..
Not a lie, but if you use it as punctuation it can be considered a hanging offence :)
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Vampaerus Wysznik
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06-23-2008 02:24
From: Kelli May
QFT - maybe we can get LL to add something like this to the FAQ or even Community Standards. (haha, only serious)
but then that might be construed as condoning deviant behavior. :rolleyes:
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Kelli May
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06-23-2008 02:35
From: Maureen Boccaccio
OMG and when they first are on the ship and encounter difficulty, and he leaves the bridge, and is asked where he's going..."To see if there's a pub" I lost it. Still do.

Alan Rickman in ANYTHING is good. Sheesh. was it in this thread or the home thread where we were talking about Robin Hood Prince of Thieves and Harry Potter? I think it was the home thread....

Not to mention "I see you managed to get your shirt off." Manages to reference nearly every Kirk fight scene in TOS and delivered with enough sarcasm to dry up the Pacific
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Kelli May
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06-23-2008 03:07
From: Lancer Bardach
Oh God.

Alright, I just read this monster of a thread, and I have to say, I kinda agree with the OP.

*GASP*

But I'd just like to point out a few things where I definitely disagree. First off, I ain't a cheap hooker. If I don't work, I can't buy that new pair of spicy red f--k-me heels that'll attract more virginal SL "playas" who ask me if I "want 2 cybar olol". It's a job like any other, and I can't spend time learning to model and sculpt prims ingame if I want to earn money - I'm busy enough with time spent on worthwhile things(such as maintaining an active and healthy social life)so it's the strip poles and joints for me!

On the other hand, the people who talk about how SL is an avenue of self-expression and creativity, delving into perspective and such make me laugh. Tell me, Sigmund Freud, exactly how does creating a squirrel/human hybrid avatar with tits the size of pumpkins and a cock that would make an African Elephant cry open up your creativity? Explain to me how that expresses your self(other than a love of TEH HAWT CYBERSECKS)?

And that's pretty much all I have to say at the moment. I am fully aware that I am on a filthy smut simulator that is absolutely degrading to women and undermines family values, all that bad and evil stuff that Right-wingers hate. And I really don't care. It just annoys me when people try to make a mountain out of a mole-hill on both ways. You won't go DIRECTLY TO HELL!11 if you typef__k someone on SL, nor is having a furry avatar with the Leaning Tower of Pisa in their g-string CREATIVE AND SPESHUL.

Besides, I like having a decent amount of freaks and perverts on SL. Who would we have to point and laugh at if they disappeared?

I'll go back to slurping e-dongs now...FOR LINDENS.

Glad that's working for you, and that you get a nice social life too. Please realise, though, that some folk here are into the whole creative thing, and having you compare them to your customers might offend? I'd be the first to admit there's probably not much creativity in an over-endowed furry she-male av, but take a look round Svarga, Isle of Wyrms, Babbage, Second Louvre or any of the other interesting builds. Done that? Now tell me SL is "a filthy smut simulator that is absolutely degrading to women".
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Lancer Bardach
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06-23-2008 03:08
From: Kelli May
QFT - maybe we can get LL to add something like this to the FAQ or even Community Standards. (haha, only serious)


I endorse this fully.
Lancer Bardach
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06-23-2008 03:53
From: Kelli May
Glad that's working for you, and that you get a nice social life too. Please realise, though, that some folk here are into the whole creative thing, and having you compare them to your customers might offend? I'd be the first to admit there's probably not much creativity in an over-endowed furry she-male av, but take a look round Svarga, Isle of Wyrms, Babbage, Second Louvre or any of the other interesting builds. Done that? Now tell me SL is "a filthy smut simulator that is absolutely degrading to women".



But it's still not the landscape of creativity and inner voices as you might imagine - just a tool to LET that creativity be expressed. The vast majority use it to slap primcocks and primboobs on their furry avatars or to cyber with poseballs but I acknowledge that people create their own realities that are more than just pornographic in nature.

However, that doesn't somehow overshadow the smut. It's still there and quite prevalent, and large-scale by now.

And lastly I'm wondering why I even bothered replying to this seriously, because the statement you took there was made in the loosest and most unrepentant sense. I work as a stripper in this game for the love of Dog and I would be the last person to use those particular words in that order in complete seriousness. :P
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06-23-2008 04:02
From: Lancer Bardach
But it's still not the landscape of creativity and inner voices as you might imagine - just a tool to LET that creativity be expressed. The vast majority use it to slap primcocks and primboobs on their furry avatars or to cyber with poseballs but I acknowledge that people create their own realities that are more than just pornographic in nature.

However, that doesn't somehow overshadow the smut. It's still there and quite prevalent, and large-scale by now.

And lastly I'm wondering why I even bothered replying to this seriously, because the statement you took there was made in the loosest and most unrepentant sense. I work as a stripper in this game for the love of Dog and I would be the last person to use those particular words in that order in complete seriousness. :P

Damn this is a hard one. I wanted more deviant stuff, and now I have to defend the non-deviant stuff.

Try to make a non-sexual avatar, and start exploring. Most fo the stuff you will encounter is not deviant by far. Just yesterday I visited an exposition of sculpted statues, great work. Visit some clubs, music events, great builds, bars, but do not search for deviant things. You will be amazed.

The fact you chose to be a virtual hooker, does not mean that the majority just is in SL to hop poseballs. Is just might be, that your view is slightly coloured by the path you have chosen.
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06-23-2008 04:12
What would it take to do a census? I still don't have a great understanding of the size of the whole grid, other than it's "huge". So I know one person couldn't possibly hop around and check every nook and cranny. How many volunteers would it take? Would people be interested? Can the grid be divided up easily amongst X number of volunteers and just canvas the whole thing? Taking a tally of smut versus non-smut. (would there need to be more that 2 categories?) Seems people have varying ideas of what the "vast majority" of SL is. I'd hazard a guess there's no such thing as a vast majority of any one thing. But how difficult would it be to stop guessing and make a semi-scientific count?
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06-23-2008 04:15
Sexuality and erotica can be creative too but I don't know how much of it exist here cause really I haven't explored that side of SL yet nor I really connected with those who be compatible with me.
I do spend lot of time making things that few see but perhaps that just a non-sexual distraction from my lack of love life up to this point. Haha
I don't know I am emotional type of person I do get attached I just don't find pose ball hopping for the animations that interesting there got to be more then pixel and prim body parts but that doesn't mean I don't have my own perversions and I am also honest person.
I just haven't pursued it here that much.
I am a strange guy, my perversions don't translate well via pixels or real world.
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06-23-2008 04:17
From: Marcel Flatley
Damn this is a hard one. I wanted more deviant stuff, and now I have to defend the non-deviant stuff.

Try to make a non-sexual avatar, and start exploring. Most fo the stuff you will encounter is not deviant by far. Just yesterday I visited an exposition of sculpted statues, great work. Visit some clubs, music events, great builds, bars, but do not search for deviant things. You will be amazed.

The fact you chose to be a virtual hooker, does not mean that the majority just is in SL to hop poseballs. Is just might be, that your view is slightly coloured by the path you have chosen.


Not quite the point, although I see what you mean.

Like I said, I have indeed seen some of the lovely landscapes, sculptures, and builds within the mainland and so forth. Still, the situation in which orgy rooms and hastily built fetish bars are easier to find than the museums and virtual cities, is a large enough indicator that all is not quite fluffy and Politically Correct in our virtual world.

Which, by the way, is hardly my problem. If Second Life was the utopia you claim it to be, I'd be looking for work in some other category.
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06-23-2008 04:22
Sex sells, there is lot of lonely and horny people out there that why probably sex work does better then what I am doing.
I have been tempted but truthfully I want something more then 30 minutes of voice chat fantasy for 999L I guess.
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06-23-2008 04:24
From: Lancer Bardach
Not quite the point, although I see what you mean.

Like I said, I have indeed seen some of the lovely landscapes, sculptures, and builds within the mainland and so forth. Still, the situation in which orgy rooms and hastily built fetish bars are easier to find than the museums and virtual cities, is a large enough indicator that all is not quite fluffy and Politically Correct in our virtual world.

Which, by the way, is hardly my problem. If Second Life was the utopia you claim it to be, I'd be looking for work in some other category.

Second Life for sure is not anything close to an Utopia, I did not say that and will never say that.

What I do say, is that I disagree on the statement that the vast majority is here to hop poseballs. It is just as simple to find a non-sexual venue, then I can find a sexual oriented one. I can assure you that I never walked into an orgy room by accident.
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