New continent 20 sims sale

Hi all,

Just notice LL is selling 20 sims on one day!! Good on you, LL!!

And for you newcomers, don't buy those land that are now auctioned >US$3000. You can get cheaper land later

Zen

if you look those recently auctioned simes for 3k+ are selling rather slowly from what I see. I go peak everyday as i see the prices shift a bit here and a bit there but for the most part a great deal of it remains unsold so far. I thought i read that people were buying them up fast like withing minutes if this is so how come they are so many of them for sale?

I'm hoping that people are starting to see the light and just dont buy as right now the way land sales look in the listings i could swear there is a bit of price fixing occuring they all are between 14-16 not much difference on either end it all seems quite wierd to me

In any event I see people getting more and more angry over it i'm hoping they stay angry and don't buy this will force prices down its this mindless buying at whatever price you see that is making the entire thing "doable" by the sellers.

In any event the guy who bought the chunk of land for close to the price of an entire sim this stuff makes little to no sense to me location means nothing much in this game except if you are beside a road or water but otherwise grass is grass and water is water and living in the north or the south it really makes no real difference

And even with location unless its protected land it means nothing either water can get just as messy as grass etc surroundings and neighbour hoods change in the blink of an eye here one day there is no lag then 3 guys move in with 200 scripted items and the next day there is so much lag you can't do anything

eh I'm simply not rich enough to spend 100's of dollars on a piece of server space the size of a thimble

Yup. here it comes. You guys hold off. Dont buy any land for awhile. Let them all sit there with this expensive stuff sucking up their profits in tier charges awhile, and watch what happens to the land prices.

Its happened before, it will happen again. Just let them snap it all up at the higher prices trying to one up everyone on that bottom line of land prices Watch how fast they fall when they get the message that people just dont want to spend $50US on a 1024 or higher anymore, and those prices will bottom out.

Hold out gang. The tides are about to turn back into a buyer's market...

Hopefully LL will keep up this pace of sim auctions and their mysteriously *cough cough* not responding to certain land dealers requests to be able to buy and sell more. Then maybe the prices will finally become reasonable.

Its already happening folks. Land has dropped 1.1L/m2 in the last 30 minutes.. Just keep waiting them out. Let those greedy bastards eat that tier hehehehehehe

your evil

(but well put none-the-less hehe)

This from somebody that professed to be out of the mainland market a few months back, yet has been seen buying in auctions in the past few weeks? Sorry, we know your game.

Cough cough. Got more than enough tier for now, my requests are based on future demand.

And I wait patiently while several thousand USD are transferred from SL to my RL bank account

Even though I don't currently have a vested interest in prices staying at current levels, I doubt they'll fall much more unless we begin continuously seeing 20 sims/day --> something I doubt at least for the time being.

I'm sick of the bashing of land brokers. They work hard and risk a lot of money for small gains. Wait all you want, but stop with the petty bashing. Those that bash are jealous people wishing they had the balls to get into the game.

i'm sick of being overcharged by them

so i guess we are even

and why do you think people are jealous lol (would like an explanation of this deductive reasoning just for future referance) here is my "diagnosis"

your explanation seems like an easy way to rationalize why people dislike your actions instead of examining your prices.. the jealousy ploy is what people use to make themselves feel better (hope its working ^^)

you see for me when someone says i dont like product x because of this reason I look at product x and usualy see his reasons and then go about fixing product x so he and others can have a better product (seems foreign this concept to some people though this 'listening to the consumer bit"

Lastly the only reason prices are high is because you guys overbid you bid and bid and bid until it hits some outrageous price instead of conceding it to the other guy hehe. If you guys stopped bidding earlier (like me i bid on parcels too by the way but no way am i gonna pay full price for auctioned land its illogical as it means that i have to ask more or possibly take a loss..) prices on land would drop but that's a concept foreign to "brokers" in this situation walking away from a bad deal is what you should normally do not bid at "all costs "until you win period regardless of end prices its pretty silly really and i ahve never seen auctions for items which are easily obtained relatively speaking go for such high amounts

Bidding yes, buying no. Are you crazy ? I wouldnt actually buy that stuff priced over my max bids. I have a limit, that i set and can still charge a fair value for it rather than running it up at any cost , and hoping to offload it on some poor newb later by falsely claiming "Waterfront" for sim edges that arent waterfront, etc. I'll bid what I want when I want to. If I win, so do the guys that get to buy it. If I lose, then I lose. Who cares. Im still one of the few that thinks its a game, and Im not out to screw someone over a fast few lindens here.

First, can you name one action I have ever done that you claim people dislike? Do you know of a plot I have ever sold for more than it was worth? Do you know me at all?

"You guys?" Yes we guys are all the same. Who are you, Archie Bunker?

I did only a small amount of land selling to cover my tier to keep my land in Carlisle. I am out of the land game now because the Grid and the economy are unstable. But I know a lot of brokers and how hard they work. They can't "overcharge" you. Just don't pay if you think the price is too high. They set prices that the market will bear. If they set their prices too high, the land does not sell. The market is manipulated by LL not by the brokers. The brokers didn't take the First Land away.

I have never bid on a sim personally. But for those who do...If they stop bidding earlier, they can't win the auction. You can't take ownership of a sim unless you are the high bidder. So if others are bidding, and you want that that particle sim, you have to keep upping your bid. (Tempted to type "duh" here).

Either way who really hurts is small guy like myself who doesn't really have lot but spends the money anyway.
I got 4 lots I bought in wrong region because I am forgetful that no one will buy at 8400, and I can't go any lower or I lose more, I have already lost a lot.
In long run only people who really can play are those who can throw away hundreds of us dollars a month without blinking eye.
Not very many people can do that so in long run those with computer power won't be staying for long if things are just way too expensive on top of the regular grid issues.
I give it few months but things don't look very good, I just wanted small area of 8096 for my friends and I to play in and I am having hard time even accomplish that with the current market.
If I sell and start over again it will be at great loss for me.
I have no interest in renting just from anyone.

Hurray for cheap land!

Oh, wail, when they released 40 sims in a day prices dropped about 1L/sqm? I don't think 20 sims will do much.

8096 seems a bit big to me for a small area to sit around with your friends. And if thats all it's really about, spending time with friends, you can easy find hundreds of places in sl to hang out and have a good time for free. And rental may be your only option if you really want *not need* a personal place to sit around. You choosing not to is your choice. I hate to sound harsh, but getting in over your head is no ones fault but your own. I've been there I fully supported a large club for many months out of pocket before I started to get ahead when I really couldnt afford it. But that was my fault, no one elses and I didnt go looking elsewhere to place blame. Anyone can play sl with or without money, they just may not have every extra in sl they desire.

And its since gone back up.... And while it was down a little you were looking at those plots. Were you going to buy and list lower?? Doughtful. I really like you Holly, your well respected and fair to people but I think you play both sides of the fence here. You were doing the same not that long ago, and you were listing at average market value then. Same thing most of us "greedy bastards" did then as well and still do now. I just don't understand how you felt it was fair when you did it, but now that you don't deal mainland as much your quick to say shame on us for the same thing you did not that long ago. It's the way it's always been, there has always been land dealers, and its always been a matter of supply and demand that is the bottom line in deciding land prices. Most of just regulate the market.

Well there go our new servers.................................

Since it seems that most people believe that high prices is only a land trader thing, i could say that land traders existed always in SL. Even with cheap prices, even with high prices.

Also to add that for those who trade land, it will be a paradise to have low prices in land. More than the simple residents who just want a small piece of land. Better margin than the one we have now, much more land since with the same money you buy now a sim then you could buy 2 and 3 sims. Actually everybody will be happy. So let's pray for LL in succeeding to supply enough land so all of us could be happy and with reasonable prices at the same time.

So I encourage all that naming land traders greedy bastards and such to think a bit before they accuse other people.

Im sorry Sarah. I wasnt reffering to the 'few' that play the game fairly, such as yourself and a select minority of others. I should have made that more clear. Im reffering to the ones that snap up everything in sight and price it far above the market average, hoping to sell it because there is no other option for some that want to own land. I was watching the plots that went up when I met you last night . I could have bought it and repriced it higher, but I didnt. Oddly enough I was the first there for a few seconds hehehe. But yeah, my bad on not making that distinction between those that play the game nicely, and those that use bots and stuff to do it....

I agree that Sarah is not only fair and a great person to deal with in all matters regarding land, but has incredible integrity. Just a sincere question: The brokers that snatch up land and price it far above market...do we really need to worry about them? They take a huge risk playing that way because their land is not bought by other brokers. Thus it takes them a much longer time to sell, so they stay exposed and have to pay a higher tier for longer. To me, they are not the ones to be concerned about. They are not driving the base price of land in SL up or down. It is LL that does this with the amount of sims and land they make available and global snap decisions like taking away first land.

The spam farmers who cut up plots into 16m squares however, earn my distain and deserve no respect. They have a much lower risk and they make SL a much uglier place with their signs. They can singlehandedly ruin the look and feel of a nice sim by destroying even a single 512 meter plot. Their tactics are nothing but extortion. Wonder if they cut down trees and put up strip malls in RL.

This is easy to understand, Linden Labs needs tier fees, tons of tier fees will bring a lot more money into their account than 15 sims being sold at 3000 $ each week.

I am also looking for a decent spot of land but like it is now, well mainland is so expensive, I'm not going to pay 1000$ for 1/4 of a sim while an entire island costs 1600 dollars. 500$ yes but not twice that amount that's just rediculous. Besides mainland doesn't allow terraforming in a decent way and is also very bumpy. So I would prefer buying a part of a private owned island and pay the owner 10$ extra in tier fees each month instead.

I also think LL doesn't want to prices of land to crash so that is why they only release 20 sims at the time and are very carefull not to influence the land prices to much. On the other hand they do realize people aren't willing to pay that kind of money for a bit of virtual land.

Considering the many serious technical problems that show no sign of improvement, i wouldn't recommend buying land at any price.

Heh, the only people begrudging anyone's profit are those that refuse to let the land be sold at a lower price because they didn't bid the reasonable maximum first - but that is the nature of this game. Not only does it keep the market at the rate it is, it lowers profit margins for everyone.

hehe this is the point its overbidding its really very simple there are several "land barons" i do like but inflation is inflation and it hurts everyone in the long run as everyone puts up prices to combat it

the rate of inflation of land is over the top and only the people who deal in land can fix it and the only thing consumers can do is not buy it and say something if people refuse to listen then fine but i dont see most of this land selling like hotcakes really i see more and more people living on private estates that includes me I never imagined i would be using estate land but I am