New Linux enhanced viewer: The Cool SL Viewer

This is a MAC related issue, and I don't have a MAC... Plus, I seem to recall that this issue was fixed already. Barney Boomslang even added the patch to his port of the Cool SL Viewer v1.19.1.4 for the MAC (see http://radio-boomslang.shacknet.nu/~bb/articles/cool-viewer-mac/ at the bottom of the page: Cool Viewer 1.19.1(4)e ).

In any case, it has been a long time I encountered any freeze: I don't have any with the current versions of the Cool SL Viewer under Linux.

You are to be envied.. I have been having them all the time with the 1.20.12 versions. The latest one, number 3, isn't too bad, and neither was number 1, but number 2 I hardly used..kept on going back to the stable version because I froze so often.

The Cool SL Viewer v1.20.13.0 release 1 is available for Linux on http://sldev.free.fr/

Enjoy !

i dont see it there yet...

Try keeping the SHIFT key pressed and clicking on the reload button of your web browser... might be a stale file in your browser cache (SHIFT reload forces a page reload from the network).

I spent last weekend on 1.20.12 and plan on playing with 1.20.13 this weekend. On problem I had was with streaming audio. I tried to catch the Milk & Cookies show for the 4th and was getting delays and overlaps in the stream making it tough to really listen to. (>_<

I just spent the last half hour searching under "linux streaming" and "linux media" and can't really find anything. *checks over shoulder for boss* (<_< ... (>_>

Is anyone having better luck than me with audio streaming? I'm a pretty low-level dumbdumb user of Ubuntu 8.04 on an ASUS L1N64 dual AMD FX-74 system. Gotta love the framerate and overall performance, but, that streaming audio glitch gets to me since I'm usually somewhere I wanna listen to the music. (=_=)y

Try getting rid of ESD (uncomment the "export LL_BAD_ESD=x" line in the "secondlife" script.
Also, depending on your sound chip, you may experience (much) better results with OSS v4 (http://www.opensound.com/oss.html) than with ALSA (but this may require rebuilding your kernel).

That would be the wrong thing to do..

Ubuntu 8.04 now uses Pulseaudio, and pulseaudio and FMOD (boo hiss) do not work together well. Try installing ESD (it will remove one of the pulseaudio packages, the esd compatibility stuff)

Just start esd with "esd &" before you start SL and streaming will work great.

::edited to add::

Folks using the newest Fedora will also have this problem.

Not at all... uncommenting the "export LL_BAD_ESD=x" line in the "secondlife" script will just order the viewer to use ALSA or OSS instead of the stupid sound demons (ESD, ARTS, Pulseaudio or whatever) which are just introducing delays and not even constant delays, in sound playing: they are a bad way to deal with missing multi-channel mixers in ALSA and the legacy kernel-provided OSS. OSS v4 implements its own mixer which is far superior to ALSA's and to _any_ sound demon (it is also totally transparent to the software using the sound devices).

I therefore recommend disabling ESD _and_ installing OSS v4: this configuration worked for me on all the Linux computers I could test it on, in either Mandriva or Ubuntu.

The Cool SL Viewers v1.19.0.5 release 21 (with one bug fix) and v1.20.14.0 release 1 are available for download for Linux at http://sldev.free.fr/

Enjoy !

Henri, got some patches that you might want to integrate :-

VWR-5082 "Set permissions of scripts in object' feature, similar to 'recompile all scripts in object', in Tools tab", very useful for builders

M2

Assuming Michelle2's patch works cleanly, I highly recommend including it with the Cool SL viewer!

Sounds indeed handy... I will have a try at it.

The Cool SL Viewer v1.19.0.5 release 22 (with bulk set permissions) and v1.20.15.0 (with bulk set permissions, a fix for the chat history background color with the Silver skin, and built from the sources of the official release v1.20 viewer) are available for Linux on http://sldev.free.fr/

Enjoy !

The Windows version is ready as well.
http://my.opera.com/boylane

I just found a fix for the annoying bug which crept since v1.19.1.4 and that made the minimized floaters forget their position (thus always minimizing back to the left side of the screen, even when you moved them away from there before).

As a result, I issued a new release: the Cool SL Viewer v1.20.15.0 release 2 is available for download for Linux from http://sldev.free.fr/

Enjoy !

I have never tested it before, but I think I must be misunderstanding what the option, "allow MU* Pose style in chat" is supposed to do... in what sense is ": synonymous to /me"? I can't get : to turn into my name, as I can /me ... ( and yes, I have restarted the browser).

when you enable that, you type "miles" instead of "/me smiles"...

You are probably inserting a space between the ":" and the first word. ":" must be followed by either a letter or an apostrophe (for possessive) in order to be interpreted as a "pose" (=emote).

Its advantage over "/me " is that it is much shorter to type (one character instead of four), and all MUCKers/MUSHers/MUXers/MUDers are already used to it.

I knew I must be doing it wrong. :thanks you!

And because Marine Kelley just released RestrainedLife v1.12, here are two new releases of the Cool SL Viewer:

Cool SL Viewer v1.19.0.5 release 23
Cool SL Viewer v1.20.15.0 release 3

Available now for Linux on http://sldev.free.fr/

Enjoy !

Yan Swindlehurst provided some code which adds joystick support to the new LL client at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-5297 ... would be a cool feature for the cool viewer

Sorry, but I do not have (neither have any use for) a joystick, and can't therefore test this code (which, by the way, is not even provided as a clean patch and requires for users to tweak their system in order to work properly, from what I can read on the JIRA).
As stated on my website, the Cool SL Viewer only includes thoroughly tested patches (i.e. patches I could test by myself) to prevent stability issues, and I will stick strictly to this principle.

OK I'll make a complete fool out of myself looking stupid now but I'll need a bit of help

I thought of trying to compile the cool viewer to see if that makes it run on my naughty machine that doesn't like Henri's compiled version.

But...

Can't get it to compile!

I have downloaded the three LL files (src, libs artwork) and all patches + Henri's makeSL script and put them in a folder. Running the script only results in this...

Extracting the files from the archives...
Extracting artwork patch ./slviewer-1-v120130-RevertUI_v6-artwork-patch.zip...
Copying fmodapi files...
Moving the sources to ./linden...
mv: cannot move `linden' to a subdirectory of itself, `./linden/linden'
Applying patches...
/bin/ls: ./slviewer-*.patch*: No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
./make-SL: line 392: ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
mv: cannot move `./linden/build/SConstruct' to `./linden/indra/SConstruct': No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
mv: cannot move `./linden/build/SConstruct' to `./linden/indra/SConstruct': No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
./make-SL: line 409: ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/SConstruct: No such file or directory
mv: cannot move `./linden/build/SConstruct' to `./linden/indra/SConstruct': No such file or directory
grep: ./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py: No such file or directory
mv: cannot move `./linden/build/viewer_manifest.py' to `./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py': No such file or directory
grep: ./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py: No such file or directory
mv: cannot move `./linden/build/viewer_manifest.py' to `./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py': No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py: No such file or directory
./make-SL: line 426: ./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py: No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `./linden/indra/newview/viewer_manifest.py': No such file or directory
sed: can't read ./linden/indra/newview/linux_tools/wrapper.sh: No such file or directory
mv: cannot move `./linden/build/wrapper.sh' to `./linden/indra/newview/linux_tools/wrapper.sh': No such file or directory
chmod: cannot access `./linden/indra/newview/linux_tools/wrapper.sh': No such file or directory
touch: cannot touch `./linden/indra/newview/linux_tools/unicode.ttf': No such file or directory
./make-SL: line 110: cd: ./linden/indra: No such file or directory
Compiling the client into ./linden/build...

scons: *** No SConstruct file found.
File "/usr/lib/scons/SCons/Script/Main.py", line 1023, in _main


So the question is... what have I done wrong?

Probably a lot as I'm not that techsavvy but hey gotta start learning somewhere

(It's ok to PM and mail me if you don't want to use the forum for this)

[edit]Explicitly telling the make-SL script where the sources are seems to at least want it to apply the patches correctly, but still it doesn't like the Sconstruct thing? "Can't read" and it is there as far as I can say [/edit]

Obviously, you modified the make-SL script variables (PATH_TO_SOURCES, most probably) and made them point to a wrong directory.

Please try running the unmodified version of make-SL (there is no real reason to change the build and sources directories, so just let them as they are).