Second Life Community Convention 2006: SAN FRANCISCO!

I suggest the town of Lebanon, in Smith County, Kansas.

It is, after all, the exact center of the US!

Can we make it Wizard of Oz themed?

Jeska Linden is the liaison between SLCC and Linden Lab. We are lucky to have some general demographic information and a crack research staff that we leverage before making these kinds of decisions.

Regards,

-Flip

There was some internal debate on this issue. Knowing SL as I do, however, we'd probably have ended up hosting the event in Pecan Pie instead of San Fran!

-Flip

Initially I tended to agree with you here, but upon thinking about it, it might be better than stats derived from 130,000 "active" players. Perhaps people posting their rl locations are more likely to be interested in attending. This poll and these discussions should probably be in the Meetups and Real Life Events forum, with the announcement as a sticky.

Voting for your hometown is useful in terms finding out where the population is most dense. But it would be good to know where it would be easiest for people to travel to in terms of cost and distance amongst those who are actually inclined to attend this type of event.

I don't recall there every having been a Second Life convention of any sort in San Francisco. People have visited, sure, but I'd wager to say there are lots of cities that Second Life residents have visited. I've been to San Francisco exactly once, for 2 days, in my life. I wouldn't define that as being done "over and over". If we'd done it in NYC again, then your argument might hold some water, but I really don't get your huge objections to this.

David, thanks for the kind words.

Regards,

-Flip

Just for yucks, would you mind asking if those numbers include employees and their alts?

That's an interesting question. I'll be happy to ask.

Regards,

-Flip

but i've been meaning to meet and greet some folks out there anyway so I'll probably be able to make it down, mebbe even on a panel or two if the need for an extra bobbling head should arise

Hey it's a great way to meet lindens.

Anywhere else they might not come!

I think it's good to gets this straight early in the year since most people who have the benefit of paid vacation tend to begin to schedule them early on. I wouldn't likely travel cross country for a weekend but with this much notice a longer stay to enjoy the city would be easier to arrange. For many people, it would be easier to justify the expense of a SL gathering if the trip to San Francisco included significant others and/or family. With that in mind, it occurred to me that you might want to inquire if residents with families would prefer that it be held in August, before the beginning of the school year.

Thank you for not answering the question. Are you a politician?

Numbers! Or it just seems like you are making arbitral decisions without any input from the community. I live in Chicago and while I think Chicago would be a great place for a convention of any kind because Chicago just rocks in the summer (an international fact!), I personally would rather go to another city because I like traveling. Just because an unverifiable majority supposedly live in the SF area, doesn't mean even they want it in SF.


This is not a community event, this is a FIC event (yes, I said it). Provide some information and options to the community if you want community support.

Come on, I clearly answered the question. JESKA LINDEN TOLD US! She's the SLCC liaison to Linden Lab! This is not a big secret; just view the video from last year. So we have access to demographic data from Linden Lab! Is that clear enough?

In regards to it being an FIC event, I don't remember us restricting registration to anyone. In fact, Prokofy Neva attended last years event, which was well-documented. We don't descriminate in who we let register.

Yes, Chicago's a cool town too. There are lots of cool cities in the world.

Regards,

-Flip

PS - Eboni, I tried to reply to your most recent PM, but you've since turned it off. Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you...

There is a forum for discussing real world user gatherings, it's called the "Meet-ups and Real Life Events" forum. The description of the forum says "Organizing a RL meet-up or event? Please discuss and announce here!"

This thread clearly belongs in that forum. General is for threads that among other things don't have a perfect home in a special purpose forum. This thread fits perfectly in the "Meet-ups and Real Life Events" forum. Forum Resident Moderators, please put this thread in the proper place.

So 51% of SL Residents live in the Bay Area?

My first property was in Mocha where Siobhan Taylor owned most of the sim. I remember reading this at the time but I didn't think she was serious.

Maybe she was only half kidding.

I never said that:



Isn't that fairly clear? How's that saying 51%?

Regards,

-Flip

Heh, its funny you mention this, as that forum was created after the first SLCC was such a success. However, the spirit of that forum is clearly for smaller, more casual meet-ups (if you view the threads within), rather than large events which require months of pre-planning. Either way, I'm fine with it if the thread gets moved.

Regards,

-Flip

Let's not play the semantics game here. What was said was that SanFran has already had a number of SL-related events. Considering the only SLCC so far was in NYC, that's playing fast and loose with your wordplay there.

I am trying to approach this from a view of consideration of what would benefit best the SL community, not instead of what would stroke the ego of a small select group of residents. Based on that interpretation, the location should be one that has best chance to give residents an opportunity to go who have not had the opportunity. If a person lives in/near SanFran, then they have had opportunities galore in comparison to the rest of the SL geographic community. Since SanFran above all other places has had more opportunity for SL-related events than anywhere else in existence, it makes for the singularly least beneficial place to have the convention. Like I said, been there, done that, will be done again and again and again.

There's more to the world than NYC and SanFran.


- Newfie

You heard the man, lets all meet in Kansas!

*(only if they serve Stella Artois, kthx)

YAY! One that Nala and I can much more easily attend! Woohoo!!!!

Then stop, please.


This is simply not true.

The biggest "SL-related event" in San Fran was "Invasion Linden Lab 2005" which was all of ... a dozen people.


No, Flip never said that.


Please refrain from personal attacks. There's no reason to call anything "ego stroking", and you have no way of measuring that even if it wasn't rude to say.



Why could you just have stated this in the first place without all your sanctimony? You have a right to your opinion, state it without the attacks, please.


Yes, there's Bangladesh and Sudan and Mexico and Norway and Middleofnowhereexceptlotsofcorn, Kansas. Just because there's "more than NYC and San Fran" does not mean that neither are good choices.

A Majority would be 51% and as we learned in 2004, 51% is a mandate. If the number is less than 51% it is not a majority.

500 people in SF
-Linden Alts, Family Friends
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50 people in SF

20 People in Chicago Metro
10 in Detroit Metro
75 People in NYC Metro
1000 NE
1000 S
1000 International


Rest of SL > SF

Yes, those are made up fake number but since you aren't providing any numbers, just are just about as valid as anything you have said.

I know I am just being a bitch but you are coming across a little smug in your dismals of other peoples concerns. This isn't really a community event the way it stands now.

Moved over to Meet-ups for further discussion

Sounds like the best location would be Snark City...

Kudos to the folks who are on the committee and volunteering their time to pull this all together. The ironic thing for me is that I currently live in San Francisco but when the convention rolls around I'll be living in a little town in Missouri. Not to fear, I'll be attending the convention just as I did last year: virtually (Had a great evening this past fall -- dancing to the sultry offerings of DJ Naydee... on a rooftop under the moon and the fireworks).