Age verification

Uh, is that all you have? Name calling, with no useful data, info, or comments to offer?

Let me tell you, that's my land, bought and paid for. The door that will hit me in the butt on the way out I created. Who's this 'we' you talk of when you say 'our doors'.? I'm a part of that we, everyone here is.

That you have no concern for your personal info being put out there, is simply a false sense of security on your part. Those who are rightfully concerned for their security are expressing their outrage over personal data mining. If you want to give up your personal info, that's your right, but don't insult those who are using their brains to think about the possible outcomes of this.

One thing I keep thinking is that with all the big business coming into SL, of course LL is oging to know tow to their requests. It is they who don't want to be seen associating with child sex in SL. It is they who would put the pressure on SL. Before there were so many big businesses coming into SL, LL did not respond to complaints of child sex, did they?

OH, but now, even adult nudity is going to be censored. All of a sudden like. Even though we all know minors have been around all along. Including LL. I think it's simply the big businesses in SL that have made LL change their minds. Money talks. The residents, the folks who invested time and money into SL, and brought it to where it is now, will be shat upon to get at that big business money.

It's as simple as that, folks. Nothing we say or do will change the fact that LL will risk our security grasping at the big money being dangled in front of them. All the happy, creative ideals that SL started with are in the toilet and the lever has already been pushed.

He who sacrifices his liberty for a little security deserves neither liberty nor security.

Sure I may be risking my security but I'm gaining more liberty.

What strikes me funny is you people are the same ones who complained when CC verification was removed and you begged and pleaded with LL to re-instate a verification policy, well now you got what you wanted and now you're bitching about it being implemented.

If you don't like the way LL does business you are free to leave as you wish, no ones going to stop you or shed a tear, I know I certainly won't miss you.

I have a good question...

Why is a bunch of pixelated nudity offensive in the first place? Ok, fine maybe a kid shouldn't see real life nudity. But if its pixelated does it really matter? Its not like their looking at real body parts of a real person, its not like they are "getting off" to it. Well at least no one should be unless their sick. I've explored the game just to have fun and a few times have stumbled into to some HEAVILY XXX zones. Yeah it may be adult oriented in those places but it didn't seem to bug me, its all just fake to me. Although there are places where they do have real porn pictures up so I guess that would be a concern.

Another thing that people don't seem to talk about is violence. Linden mentioned "adult" would also be anything violent. WHY??? What do they mean by violent? Like shooting a gun violent? Because this game is one of the least violent games I have played lately if your looking for violence. At the most you can buy "bloody" skins for your avatars. At least in my short time of playing thats all I have seen.

I think what it boils down to is Linden Labs is looking for a way to make money and they are using the age verification as an excuse to do that...

"We have an announcement....we are going to need to verify ages, it will be $10 if your a premium account and since we can profit alot more since there is more basic accounts we will be charging you guys more but we won't tell you how much yet. So yeah, have fun even though we could do this for free!"

I wonder how many of the Anti SL Sex proponents are the same ones who say our homes and personal inventories aren't "real"?

Personally I don't care what consenting adults do in SL or in RL, so with me that question is really moot.

How about: the company who provides you with a service and who has every right to demand in exchange for that service the age and identity verification of their choice, by a third party of their choice?


Playing SL is not a birthright you know. You simply have a legal agreement with LL. They are entitled to change the conditions, and you are entitled to cancel your account if you don't like the new conditions.


I for one am thrilled to finally see some better measures being taken to keep out minors (and by the way, to greatly reduce the liability of anyone engaging in adult activities!). I will be sending them a copy of my drivers licence asap.

I'm sure this may have come up already but I'm just seeing this thread now so I had to skim a bunch of pages. What if you're not american? How do they check your age?

I think any (Mature) sim you enter should have something you could click saying your over 18 and agree you wont be offended. Then they can wash their hands of it. Or am I being really simplistic?

Also, if they want my age, they already have my credit card.
Besides, 1976 was more then 18 years ago. I wish sometimes it wasn't though lol.

I'm sure this may have come up already but I'm just seeing this thread now so I had to skim a bunch of pages. What if you're not american? How do they check your age?

I think any (Mature) sim you enter should have something you could click saying your over 18 and agree you wont be offended. Then they can wash their hands of it. Or am I being really simplistic?

Also, if they want my age, they already have my credit card.
Besides, 1976 was more then 18 years ago. I wish sometimes it wasn't though lol.

You send them a copy of your Driving Licence or Passport. Lol

Your Verified Paypal account can but thats not good enough for LL

One question though: what is the difference between adult and mature? LL needs to define these terms with a great deal of precision.

Second, I am loath to give out any more personal to LL until I am convinced [by DEEDS, not WORDS] that LL takes my protection of my personal financial data andmy identity as least as seriously as they take, let's say voice chat and their own PR. In no circumstances will I provide LL with my SSN or any portion of it until I get a greater comfort level with thier customer protection and their commitment to corporate ethics.

Got a source for that or are you just guessing? Since you didn't ask what country Kaylee was from, I think you're just guessing.

How do you verify with PayPal? Is it a credit card thing?

Verified PayPal members have confirmed their financial identity by successfully completing PayPal's Verification process.

The Verification process is a way for PayPal to gain additional proof of a member's identity in conjunction with our own authentication methods, and increases the security of our payment network for everyone.

Unverified members have not completed the Verification process needed for their country of residence.

One: They do NOT have that right in the USA! It is called the Privacy Act of 1974...look it up!

Two: They are changing the rules, not me!

Three: If you send it, puhleez do NOT whine here about your new identity theft problems...Thanks

He who sacrifices his liberty for a little security deserves neither liberty nor security.

Sure I may be risking my security but I'm gaining more liberty.

This doesn't mention age verification. Have I missed something?

Eligibility. In order to use the Service, you must register for a Personal, Premier or Business account (an "account". In order to receive card funded payments or use the Service to accept payment in the conduct of a business, you must register for a Premier or Business account. Personal account holders will be permitted, at their option, to receive a limited number of card funded payments as notified by PayPal from time to time without having to change their Personal account holder status. Personal account holders who do receive a permitted card funded payment will be liable to PayPal for the applicable fees as set out in the Fees Schedule. You may only hold one Personal account and either one Premier or one Business account. Our Services are only available to individuals or businesses that can form legally binding contracts under applicable law. Our Service is not available to individuals under the age of 18 years. We may refuse to provide our Service, change the qualifications for your use of the Service and/or terminate this Agreement with you at any time on giving you notice by email, such notice to take immediate effect.

As I posted previously:

I don't see anything in there that mentions age verification.

Our Service is not available to individuals under the age of 18 years. We may refuse to provide our Service, change the qualifications for your use of the Service and/or terminate this Agreement with you at any time on giving you notice by email, such notice to take immediate effect.