The Welcome Area.

Greetings everyone.

It has come to my attention of people complaining about the welcome area. I will not even bother to read the posts about it because I get the idea of what people are saying.

The people that choose to hang out in the welcome area choose not to hang out in clubs, please respect that. We do not wish to be apart of the sex clubs, the drama, and everything else that is gross about that. You might say well we enjoy that and if you don't like it to bad. You're are right and with that I choose to be in the welcome area. I am very sick of people coming there once or twice, thinking they complain on the welcome area. We don't go to your clubs and complain about you. We could say that everyone dancing naked is terrible and no one wants to see that. We don't.

I am making a stand for the welcome area regulars. You do not know us, we don't know you. We may seem different, we don't care. You call us negative? Well I'm sure you are not perfect, but I am also sure you don't see us helping new people all the time either. We are not like the majority of people in second life so you bash us? Nice. We have lindens join us constantly! We know many of the Lindens and see them often so stop your complaining already.


UPDATE.... I have read a few of the comments on the welcome area and I stand firm in what I have said. I don't want to read too many because I do not want bad feelings against people. It's all a matter of opinion and here is mine.

i just want to say that i agree with you juni, peeps wanna bash us in the w/a its bs, if you dont like it there, simply dont come, and like she said ..for sure we dont hang in clubs thats our choice and we dont judge peeps here in the w/a everyone is welcome to come hang here...we just dont take no shit off anyone...to everyone in the w/a i wanna say i luv you guys and keep being yourselves thats wat makes the w/a so unique and fun....and im gonna continue to do my part in helpin and being myself wich makes me so happy to be a w/a reg...period..so all yal that dont like it down there stay in the clubs..

As a welcome area regular, I competely agree with Juniper. I don't like the sex clubs and the naked people. My friends and I choose to hang out in the WA because it is a community gathering place for us to meet. For people who wrote in the forum about the WA most of you I have probly never seen there so need to throw your 10 cents in. Like Juniper said "we don't know you. We may seem different, we don't care". I find it very humorous that so many people complain about the WA yet something still draws people to it. I personally think that you all like us and are jealous of us because we are different, like a breath of fresh air. I think some just like to be joykills because they don't know how to have fun. I love you all (My WA friends)!!!!!!!!!!!!

Juniper, if you don't read other people's posts complaining about the WA how do you know their views. This seems to be very blinkered and they may make some comments which would help improve the area.

I fail to see what clubs have to do with it, sex or not. If a person happens to go to a club (I personally do not), there is nothing stopping them also spending some time at the WA. They are not mutually exclusive.

Can you give a bit more information, what are you taking a stand on?

I am sorry but i find this whole thread illogical.

Alexa

Of course I was told what was said...or obviously I would not be saying something. I however since then have read the post and I still stand firm in what I said.


Oh and it has brought to my attention that there is infact negativity in the welcome area, well I will agree.... But! There is negativity everywhere.

Perhaps some explaining is in order. The WA's reputation is getting slightly bumped. This mainly due to whispers that are going around. I'm not going to judge what is wrong and what is right but I think some regulars who mean nothing but the best with other people felt a bit let down. Hence this post to produce their feelings.

Correct me if I'm wrong

I don't like clubs at all -- never have.

But I stopped hanging out in the WA because it's not really worth spending the time there. I think the original poster should actually take the time to read the remarks made by those weary of the Welcome Area, though. The chief complaint made is negative behavior: People rushing around neg-rating others for no discernable reason, people using the area as a forum for their lamentations against Second Life, morons with nothing better to do spamming the same five second sound clip over and over for the space of an hour.

I used to enjoy the WA, I really did. But these days I'm wont to spend time either giving product demos to customers or working alone in my humble laboratory. More peace that way.

Since then I will repeat I have read it. I read a few comments. I will not read all of them because if people want to bash, so be it. I don't want to have bad feelings towards anyone so I will not read their bashing opinions. I get the idea of what was said though... Thanks.

Oh, I see. So it hurts your feelings since you like to neg-rate people in the Welcome Area?

Please note that in my experience, a certain person's idea of having fun is:

1. grab a pal
2. start talking shit in the WA, either to others or as a setup with her pal
3. wait for someone to comment on their public drama they're broadcasting
4. neg rate the commenter
5. repeat.

That's the Jerry Springer-eque quality of the WA that I was complaining about in the other thread. Its not a breath of fresh air, its obviously not because you're offended by sex in clubs, its because you want a guaranteed audience for your performance art. Quit acting offended.

Its a shitty display of behavior to force down the throats of brand new players that are just walking into SL...listening to a bunch of girls bitching at each other like 14 year olds.

The WA isn't yours, its everyones. Older players come there with the express purpose of being helpful to new players just "off the boat". If you want to act childish just to get a rise out of someone, and then neg rate them when you get the reaction you're looking for, people are going to complain.

Juniper: My comments are directed at the poster in this thread that triple-neg rated me because I dared to tell her to keep her drama to herself instead of broadcasting it to the entire WA. Considering both she and her arguing buddy both triple negged me, and its obvious she does this as a hobby (look at her profile), I should have realized it was a setup. I don't know you, I don't have anything against you. I do have problems with specific people that I personally have had run-ins with.

What is the rating system for again? Hmmm. Remind me sometime. I have a right to negative rate someone if I feel that is what they deserve. I just don't randomly pick people out. Like I said you don't know me?!?! Don't judge me.

Ah ha, now it's making sense. Gotcha.

*incoming unpopular opinion broadcast*
Well, here is the problem with the welcome area. The purpose of said area is to welcome newbies. Yanno, to be friendly. To talk to them. To be helpful. I realize that for a long time now it has also been a gathering place. As a mentor I used to hang out there a lot more than I do now, to answer questions. The problem with the WA in recent months in my opinion is not that the people there are not interesting, or sometimes don't have what may be a valid gripe. It's the first impression that newbies get of Second Life when they log on for the first time to find a group of people complaining about the Lindens or neg rating randomly. The purpose of the WA is not to replace clubs. If you want a club that's nudity free where you can air out opinions and do your thing, by all means build one. I share your objections to clubs. They've bored me silly for a while now. I think you have the right to free speech and lots of other things in world, of course.

WA is in my opinion one of the most unwelcoming places outside Jessie oftentimes. The purpose of the WA is *gasp* welcoming newbies.

Tell me honestly folks: is that why you hang out there?

What is wrong with neg rating? Nothing. Get over it.

That's very well put. I'm stunned at some of the nastiness I have observed there. It wasn't like that when I was a new resident, either.




Aye, aye, Azazel. That's a fair synopsis. And a fair complaint.

Thank you Daniel.

Mmm. That's true. Nothing wrong with "accidentally" bumping into people, either. Nor is there anything wrong with building an enormous spinning cube on land priced three times its market value. I mean, get over it, right? If people have malicious intentions, well, that's just too bad! They're doing things that aren't wrong, so, why molest them!

What's wrong with complaining about a bunch of attention-starved drama queens' behavior in the forums? Nothing. Get over it.

Damn. I wish I'd thought of that.

Drama queens? First off I never have ever posted in the forums until people bash the place where I call home. I am stating my opinion finally in this place? I hardly called that being attention starved.. Nice try though. Thanks for the name calling really mature.

It's funny, when I was a newbie, I found the mentors and such more irritating then the rest of the people at welcome. They all think they have a great cause - helping people learn a video game. Many also feel they must protect people from certain content - as evidenced in these posts.

It's pretty hard to be malicious in a video game, you are taking this a bit too serious.

Well said.

*Grabs Popcorn*

Are you even paying attention? The only thing being bashed are the idiots who make the WA a hostile place. The WA is supposed to be a welcoming, pleasant area and it isn't thanks to a certain sort of person. The WA itself is something that is respected and admired as an idea -- otherwise people wouldn't care about the electronic feces being smeared all around it.