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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 16:37
From: Pendari Lorentz
NICE MANNERS BABE!!


What do you care you think its funny to see one alt call me a Bitch. As far as manners go call us all on it or call none of us on it Babe.
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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 16:38
From: Ellie Edo
Have you broken your spectacles, Jeska ? Or did you really think it was about parrots and I accidentally saved her bacon ?
Only kidding - right decision.



This person called me by name and called me a bitch. Why is this person still posting?

Double standard?
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07-18-2005 16:38
From: Catherine Cotton
What do you care you think its funny to see one alt call me a Bitch. As far as manners go call us all on it or call none of us on it Babe.



WHOA, did anyone else catch that? :eek:
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Cristiano Midnight
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07-18-2005 16:38
From: Pendari Lorentz
Sorry Jeska. I honestly thought Dianne brought up a great discussion and presented it in an open way. The thread was going along well I had thought. A shame some of those who claim to want reform are the very worst when it comes to abiding by their own wishes. :(


I think it has been a great thread overall, even starting out as a negative subject potentially. The best way to keep it on track is to resist the urge to respond to the snide side grumbles and just keep the discussion going.

I think you made an excellent point when you said you don't think that the forums need reformed to have freedom of speech, because their current state proves that freedom of speech does exist. Those who want to "reform" the forums by changing it to "you can't say this, this and this" are not about free speech, they are about speech they agree with.
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Nolan Nash
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07-18-2005 16:39
From: pandastrong Fairplay
WHOA, did anyone else catch that? :eek:
ZOMFG!
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Jonquille Noir
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07-18-2005 16:40
From: Catherine Cotton
This person called me by name and called me a bitch. Why is this person still posting?

Double standard?


I think it was obvious to most that she was making a joke, and that, although she used your post as an example, she wasn't in fact calling you a bitch. That was my take on it anyway. Had she used my post for the exact same reason, I wouldn't have thought she was calling me a bitch.
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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 16:41
I fail to see any humor in this what so ever:

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"Come on now, why don't we all have a nice practice at not being paranoid and taking it well when we think we might be being referred to unkindly? Choose a recent post each and demonstrate how it should be done. I'll go first.

I'll choose Catherine. Big breath. Here we go....
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Originally Posted by Catherine Cotton
Ok some ppl made some good points here, but others should take there own advice before posting another word."

I really don't see what I've done to be singled out like this, Catherine, but I respect your right to express your opinion. BITCH !

See - how hard was that ?

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Note to Jeska. Its a joke, see. If you look closely, oh powerful one, you'll see its a puny and misdirected attempt at humor. Not" a real insult at all. Honest."
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Juro Kothari
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07-18-2005 16:43
The kettle is black and on line 1.
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Nolan Nash
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07-18-2005 16:44
From: Cristiano Midnight
I think it has been a great thread overall, even starting out as a negative subject potentially. The best way to keep it on track is to resist the urge to respond to the snide side grumbles and just keep the discussion going.

I think you made an excellent point when you said you don't think that the forums need reformed to have freedom of speech, because their current state proves that freedom of speech does exist. Those who want to "reform" the forums by changing it to "you can't say this, this and this" are not about free speech, they are about speech they agree with.

Agreed one-hundred percent, especially the bolded part.

In addition, I think that some folks mistakenly view disagreement with their ideas as a want to censor them or take away their free speech. Often, these same folks claim that there is some group of 6 or however many people that act in collusion, when in fact, they just happen to come to the same conclusion on some matters.
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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 16:44
Either enforce all the forum rules for everyone or bring back Prok. Its your call LL.

Damn straight I see the double standard now.
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Nolan Nash
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07-18-2005 16:46
From: Catherine Cotton
Its your call LL.
How very generous of you! :confused:
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Pendari Lorentz
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07-18-2005 16:47
From: Catherine Cotton
What do you care you think its funny to see one alt call me a Bitch. As far as manners go call us all on it or call none of us on it Babe.


Because unlike (I guess?) you, I could see the point behind her post. Sorry it was lost on you. Though perhaps that is part of the problem you have with the forums?
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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 16:48
forum ignore list is a beautiful thing.
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Pendari Lorentz
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07-18-2005 16:49
From: Cristiano Midnight
Those who want to "reform" the forums by changing it to "you can't say this, this and this" are not about free speech, they are about speech they agree with.


I feel this way exactly Cris!
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Jonquille Noir
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07-18-2005 16:50
From: Catherine Cotton
Either enforce all the forum rules for everyone or bring back Prok. Its your call LL.

Damn straight I see the double standard now.


Oh, give me a break. I realize being the voice of dissent is great fun, but now you're just being silly.

How do you know the rules for everyone aren't being enforced? Have you monitored Ellie's email for warnings? Do you actually think Prokofy got kicked and banned after one infraction? The number of times it was forced to post under an alt disproves that idea.
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07-18-2005 16:50
From: Catherine Cotton
forum ignore list is a beautiful thing.


True. But at this point, you may as well be talking with yourself. As you seem to refuse to hear any viewpoint that is not your own. :(
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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 16:54
From: Pendari Lorentz
Because unlike (I guess?) you, I could see the point behind her post. Sorry it was lost on you. Though perhaps that is part of the problem you have with the forums?



I have a problem with ppl calling me a bitch a whore, a cold blooded whore over and over again. You bet I do. As everyone should IMO. If this is acceptable behavior I want to hear it from LL cus the moment it is deemed "acceptable" I won't post again. Because in my world ppl don't talk to each other that way.
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Nolan Nash
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07-18-2005 16:56
From: Catherine Cotton
I have a problem with ppl calling me a bitch a whore, a cold blooded whore over and over again. You bet I do. As everyone should IMO. If this is acceptable behavior I want to hear it from LL cus the moment it is deemed "acceptable" I won't post again. Because in my world ppl don't talk to each other that way.

Oh? Is that why you called me a fucking moron and an asshole earlier in another thread?
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Pendari Lorentz
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07-18-2005 16:57
From: Catherine Cotton
I have a problem with ppl calling me a bitch a whore, a cold blooded whore over and over again. You bet I do. As everyone should IMO. If this is acceptable behavior I want to hear it from LL cus the moment it is deemed "acceptable" I won't post again. Because in my world ppl don't talk to each other that way.


Ok. YES! I can agree with you that is a horrible thing to be called. But she was NOT calling you that. Read the post in context. It was along the lines of *IF* I say this, *THEN* this.

Ellie was NOT calling you a Bitch.

She was using an example of someone doing so to prove a point.
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Catherine Cotton
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07-18-2005 17:01
From: Pendari Lorentz
Ok. YES! I can agree with you that is a horrible thing to be called. But she was NOT calling you that. Read the post in context. It was along the lines of *IF* I say this, *THEN* this.

Ellie was NOT calling you a Bitch.

She was using an example of someone doing so to prove a point.



Pen but that is the problem the majority of the time any one is called foul names in these fourms its me. After this long I do tend to take these things very personaly. Use someone else as an example, how hard would that of been? Not hard but there would of been no backlash, no drama in doing that. God forbid we should treat each other as adults. I am no longer a target and LL should no longer allow this type of behavior.

Cat
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07-18-2005 17:01
this thread is hopelessly off topic and has become simply a breakdown of who has done what to whom thus it will now be closed. You are all aware of our Forum Guidelines as Jeska has had to politely point them out several times recently. Please try to keep these discussions civil ...
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