Are YOU a business?

The above paragraph quite clearly implies that Aimee is "FIC".

"Spamming" is multiple threads or posts in multiple threads about the same subject. You know, like dozens of threads about player gov't, the "FIC", someone's products, etc. I didn't see multiple threads from Amy on this, so I don't see it as spamming at all.

As far as business goes; blaze, wasn't it you who was promoting a script you wrote with your "warning" thread about the possibilty of people flooding the front page pics by utilizing just such a script? Haven't you used this general forum to promote scripts before?

See how easy it is to twist people's posts? How easy it is to assume and assign less than altruistic motivations?

I see nothing linking Preen to the Weber Awards other than Amy's name, which is not the name of her business. I guess we'd better all take our ads out of our sig lines - Ingsoc is watching...

Yes, I is a bussiness, and a product and a service

My feelings exactly Nolan! Well said!

And as for me.. Pen is an oddity all unto herself!

LOL Nolan. You don't have to go fishing for posts where Blaze subtly IMPLIES that I am FIC.


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OOF.

Hahaha! I missed that one.

You're right though, I don't have to fish, there are more than enough examples.

My overall point was that he claims he doesn't define people as "FIC", yet he does and has. I will be sure to bookmark the example you've given, so I can use it to help blaze remember that most of what we say here and other places on the net leave an indelible trail...

Eff Eye See Kay Eee Why

Emm Ohh J00 Ess Eee

Aimee Mouse

If *I* am a business, someone else is definately skimming the profits

Well, Aimee holds a very special place in my heart But you're right, I probably shouldn't label her so, because I suppose there is a possibilty that she is wholey sincere. But, then again, who knows. She's pretty subtle!

Also, Travis, while you might think it's easy to see through the smoke screen, trust me - it isn't. I regularly side with the lynch mobs against Blaze, in fact, Blaze is how I generally create credibility for my ALTs.

And, I don't find this particularly hard to do, because I can always see clearly both sides of an issue, it's always been a strength (and perhaps weakness) of mine.

Each ALT has its own 'brand'. I have one for land baroning, animations, building, scripting, texturing, etc. I've had a lot of fun developing a full understanding of the wide variety of technology in SL, from Poser to PhotoShop.

Creating my own "FIC" with these ALTs would not be terribly difficult. I have at times felt that I might as well thrown in the towel and do so, but fortunately LL has made some strides at combating this trend so I feel less enthusiastic about that particular technique.


BTW, did I mention that my wife and our 5 sons over the age of 18 are thinking of joining SL?

Heavens, Blaze! You mean you attack yourself?

coco

P.S. You know that doesn't help people like me, who try to get this sort of thing to stop.

Oh, absolutely!

I've been doing this since the BBS days of 1992. Attacking myself is lots of fun Trust me .. a lot of people do it. A lot of people in these forums (all forums) do it. It's a dirty not so little secret of forum world.

This is why ad hominem, witch hunts, and lynch mobs are so pointless. You think that that the people you are ganging up with are the majority rule, but really they might be just a bunch of ALTs.

Generally, the best thing is just to structure logical / rational arguments and contribute in that way. Once all the arguments and facts are in, weight them equally, and make a decision.

Giving extra credibility to one avatar, say "Waime Abber", is foolish because her popularity might merely be a factor of clever ALTing.

This ALT, btw, is bare it all and try to improve things by figuring things out. It's the anti-brand ALT. The one that doesn't try to develop a popular following and therefore is completely free to tell the truth.

A dizzying web you weave, Blaze. I submit the popularity of Waime Abber may have less to do with supportive alts and more to do with actions and conduct.

What's important is that your "poster child of the enemy" post about me is on record. Also on record is your claim of having a mind boggling array alts intended to protect your own business, to debate, to debate YOURSELF, and lord knows what else. Let me state for the record now...I have NO ALTS.

When you cast aspersions about me having ulterior motives for the AW Award or hint that it is the use of alts that account for some of my success... well the people reading your posts have plenty of context.

So blaze, is it safe to say that you didn't mean a word of this?



You're not clever blaze, just deceitful, and I find it hilarious that you claim that this arguing with one's alts is common practice. I suppose it's kind of like folks who find it hard to trust others because they are untrustworthy themselves...

Blaze, that kind of behavior isn't something I'd be bragging about. Don't expect anyone to believe a word you say ever again. With a pathology like that you're the last peson who should be commenting about other people's motivations. That's truly disturbing.

If someone thinks I'm the only one using ALTs to fly beneath the economic radar than they are dangerously naive.

Also, I'm not bragging. I'm merely trying to serve some wakeup.

Try going out in the world and looking at products and going to the trouble of tracing them back to their original source.

Developing one product and then refactoring it under several different brands is a very long and tried technique. Each brand (or in my case, ALT) serves a particular audience and its need. This is merely what I'm doing, except perhaps it's a little harder to trace back.

If SL were bigger, I'd be less worried about hiding it because the majority of people wouldn't bother tracing it or complaining about it.

Party Foul!!!!

Nolan, I have abuse reported your message. There is no need to be calling me names simply because I'm providing you with some real insight.

Exactly how does arguing with ones own alts, and gaming the forums help one "to fly beneath the economic radar"? Why does one need to? Before you, I have never even heard of this notion.

What has economics got to do with gaming the forums to advance an agenda?

Gee, that herring looks mighty red.

You "served some wakeup", to be sure. You have made sure that I am awake enough now with regards to your behavior to never take anything you say at face value, as fact, or seriously.

Again blaze, just because you get off on this little game, doesn't mean it's common. And again, I am not suprised you think others do this when you do it yourself, however that doesn't make it fact.

Thanks for the front row seat at your forum seppuku.

*Quakes with fear*

I am deceitful in the way that Pepsi Cola is deceitful or Coca Cola is deceitful, or any number of other million of corporations and companies which do exactly the same thing.

So all this gaming the forums and using alts to prop up brands.... this is all within the TOS? (I'm no TOS expert)

Well, for one, I don't do it that much because if I did it would get pretty obvious. And two, that's a good question.

I've never seen anything in the TOS against. Maybe there should be? I'd be all in favor of it.

The only problem is that it's still easy to get around this and so it would likely continue, though fear of virtual banishment would probably skew the risk/reward to a point where people would stop doing it.

Yeah, because we know that there are people working at those companies who pretend to be different people. Heck, I was told that Coca-Cola execs were on the Coca-Cola forums telling people to drink Pepsi!

Good-bye blaze, I am doing what anyone with any measure of self respect should do - putting you on ignore - permanently.

You keep saying that, yet, here we are again.

Sure, I've seen people stage flamewars against themselves using sock puppets, but I've seen a lot more who say stuff like, "a/s/l 14, erm no i ment 21 f and im in holywood, im a modl irl wat do u mean u dont beleave me, im a top modl realy, and my other accts r the top buildor scriptor, close maker and land barren, yes and michel jackson is my irl bf but i migt drop him 4 brad pit, beleave me cuz i sed so thats y, btw cud u giv me some L$ im broke and need sum blingshoes"

Blaze,

Calling what you are doing deceitful is making a statement of fact. You are deceiving people by playing various alts. It is used to deceive, whatever your purposes are for that deceit. I hope you stop wasting the moderators time with baseless reports. Additionally, watching you keep saying "I am abuse reporting you for calling me a name" is tiresome. It just makes you look like a snitch, honestly, and incapable of taking any criticism without running and telling on someone.