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Pendari Lorentz
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09-24-2005 17:37
From: Cocoanut Koala
DogSpot got responded to with an incredibly snide and demeaning post when he presented his thoughts on a topic in another thread (in Land and Economy maybe it was). Same thing happened to the other two, when they spoke up on the issue in general, to say they didn't like the lack of respect in the forums either (paraphrasing).


It would probably be good for you to also explain how DogSpot spewed curses and names before, during, and after this time as well. It would only be fair.
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-24-2005 17:37
From: Cocoanut Koala
DogSpot got responded to with an incredibly snide and demeaning post when he presented his thoughts on a topic in another thread (in Land and Economy maybe it was). Same thing happened to the other two, when they spoke up on the issue in general, to say they didn't like the lack of respect in the forums either (paraphrasing).

coco


"Congratulations on discovering supply and demand" (paraphrase) is hardly incredibly snide and demeaning. Sarcastic? Yep. Oh no, not sarcasm! Certainly no better or worse than telling someone how clueless they are, calling them a dumb ass, or telling someone to shut the fuck up.
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09-24-2005 17:38
From: Pendari Lorentz
The day you live by your own campaign, will be the day I actually start standing behind you.


Agreed.

The word is "shitdisturbers".

Posters who mean nothing constructive other than to troll, attention whore or desire drama. Seems to me the ones who cry victim the most, are the ones starting these threads.

Words like FIC, anti-intellectual and any other word that blanket attacks the community are the real "asshats".
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Pendari Lorentz
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09-24-2005 17:38
From: Kendra Bancroft
BTW have I mentioned how your templates are like manna from the heavens?


I've had those templates a year, and *still* cannot figure out what the heck all the colors and borders mean. I'm such a dumbass. :( :o
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-24-2005 17:39
From: Pendari Lorentz
It would probably be good for you to also explain how DogSpot spewed curses and names before, during, and after this time as well. It would only be fair.


Ah but you see, those were justified! She doesn't care what someone says in response. Once Jauani was a big meanie, it was open season with complete amnesty.
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Cristiano Midnight
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09-24-2005 17:40
From: Pendari Lorentz
I've had those templates a year, and *still* cannot figure out what the heck all the colors and borders meen. I'm such a dumbass. :( :o


Now see, compare and contrast. Pendari called herself a dumb ass, Kendra called herself anti-intellectual. It seems some people could not understand that concept.

PS - you are not a dumb ass. Perhaps color challenged?
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09-24-2005 17:43
From: Pendari Lorentz
The day you live by your own campaign, will be the day I actually start standing behind you.


God forbid that people lived by the letter of the Bible too. That is what your incessant references to the TOS remind me of. Yet people are far from perfect, no matter how much you preach to them, they still mess up. You can continue to worry about what everyone else is doing, or make sure your own house is in order. I assure you, from this vantage point, you should not be casting stones from that glass house of yours.
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-24-2005 17:45
From: Pendari Lorentz
I've had those templates a year, and *still* cannot figure out what the heck all the colors and borders mean. I'm such a dumbass. :( :o



That's Dumas.

and you are hardly that :)
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09-24-2005 17:46
From: Pendari Lorentz
It would probably be good for you to also explain how DogSpot spewed curses and names before, during, and after this time as well. It would only be fair.

Oh come on Pen! DogSpot was FORCED!

The evol clique of dreaded doom made it happen!
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09-24-2005 17:47
From: Pendari Lorentz
Selador, I'm sorry. But Chip was called FIC and has had to defend himself and try and make others belive that he is an individual as much as a many others of us have. Yes. Chip has been the victim of forum bullying. I've seen it.


Hey, I have it even worse, I constantly have to tell people I am not Chip Midnight.
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09-24-2005 17:49
From: Kendra Bancroft
That's Dumas.

and you are hardly that :)


That reminds me of that TV commercial, "Hey Mr. Dumbass!"
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09-24-2005 17:50
From: Cristiano Midnight
Hey, I have it even worse, I constantly have to tell people I am not Chip Midnight.

But you ARE me! Hugs my clone! :D
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09-24-2005 17:51
From: Nolan Nash
But you ARE me! Hugs my clone! :D


Hey, people still think I'm Zug's alt.
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09-24-2005 17:52
From: Kendra Bancroft
Hey, people still think I'm Zug's alt.

We should have a festival of alts who aren't really alts!
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09-24-2005 17:53
From: Torley Torgeson
That reminds me of that TV commercial, "Hey Mr. Dumbass!"



ding ding ding! We have a winner!!!!

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Pendari Lorentz
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09-24-2005 17:58
From: Cristiano Midnight
Hey, I have it even worse, I constantly have to tell people I am not Chip Midnight.


hehe! Indeed!

And :o to you and Kendra.. I really am a dumbass. But better than being a poopy head I say!! :D
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09-24-2005 18:01
From: Pendari Lorentz
hehe! Indeed!

And :o to you and Kendra.. I really am a dumbass. But better than being a poopy head I say!! :D



who you callin' a poopy head!? :eek:

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Selador Cellardoor
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09-24-2005 18:06
From: Chip Midnight
I wasn't trying to be snide. I meant it quite sincerely. Discourse is always a two way street. If someone consistently finds themself feeling backed into a corner and on the defensive then odds are the reasons have as much or more to do with their own approach than that of others. At the end of the day we can only control our own actions and reactions, not those of others (no matter how much we may wish we could). If you hold the view that a random batch of humans can be socially engineered to behave to the satisfaction of the most sensitive among us then I can see your point. Personally I'm more of a realist and believe that constant railing against the inescapable fact that discourse is messy is rather a waste of time... time that could be spent engaged in dialogue rather than moralizing.


Chip,

Messy discourse is one thing, what sometimes happens on these forums is quite something else. And while I can understand your point, why should we need to possess spines or thick skins to post here? There are lots of different types of people, and we should all feel free to post here without provoking a feeding frenzy.
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09-24-2005 18:10
From: Chip Midnight
I wasn't trying to be snide.


No, I didn't think you were. :) What I meant was that it was out of character in the sense that you are normally one of the more empathetic posters here. And certainly some of the things I have seen have made me feel sick - I would have expected you to be conscious of some of the worst excesses, and the damage they have done to people.
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09-24-2005 18:17
From: Selador Cellardoor
No, I didn't think you were. :) What I meant was that it was out of character in the sense that you are normally one of the more empathetic posters here. And certainly some of the things I have seen have made me feel sick - I would have expected you to be conscious of some of the worst excesses, and the damage they have done to people.


You haven't been reading Chip's posts, then. He has been pretty consistent in his statements that people need to take personal responsibility for their own words, and also get a backbone. Forums are not an easy medium because of their nature. I have seen things that have made me feel sick too. More often than not, it has been apologists lamenting how horribly someone is treated while giving the same perosn carte blanche to be a complete asshole to everyone else. It discredits anything else they have to say in my mind - you need to stand up against it regardless of its source. You have zero credibility when you give some people conditional free passes.
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09-24-2005 18:18
From: Julian Fate
It's just a usual weekend at the primate house. The monkeys don't have to work and with too much time (and feces) on their hands it's easy to start flinging.

haha - well, that, too

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Nolan Nash
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09-24-2005 18:20
From: Cocoanut Koala
haha - well, that, too

coco

So comparing people to monkeys flinging shit is A-OK?

I see.

Boy, do I SEE.
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09-24-2005 18:22
From: Cristiano Midnight
God forbid that people lived by the letter of the Bible too. That is what your incessant references to the TOS remind me of. Yet people are far from perfect, no matter how much you preach to them, they still mess up. You can continue to worry about what everyone else is doing, or make sure your own house is in order. I assure you, from this vantage point, you should not be casting stones from that glass house of yours.

Mess up? They make an art form out of it, on purpose.

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09-24-2005 18:24
I'm including myself IN on that, Nolan, for God's sake.

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Nolan Nash
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09-24-2005 18:30
From: Cocoanut Koala
I'm including myself IN on that, Nolan, for God's sake.

coco

Yeah, so if I call myself a name, you will give me leeway to call others the same? Cool.

Gonna have to file that for future reference.

Also, you didn't make it apparent you were including yourself in that. After all, you and admissions of any wrongdoing on your part seem to be light years apart.
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