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Catherine Cotton
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08-10-2005 14:37
From: Cristiano Midnight
Really now? This from the person who was close friends with a minor in SL? Better report yourself then, Catherine. Bring it on, Cubey, Chip nor myself have done anything - so you are just huffing and puffing for absolutely no reason. Don't pretend it is about anything else than just your usual drama.



Did I know Ryen was a minor? No your the one who told the community he was in fact a minor. I have not spoken to him at all BECAUSE ITS WRONG.

If your talking to kids without their parents concent, I will bring it on so hard you won't know what hit you. You can bank on it.
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Eboni Khan
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08-10-2005 14:47
From: Catherine Cotton
Did I know Ryen was a minor? No your the one who told the community he was in fact a minor. I have not spoken to him at all BECAUSE ITS WRONG.

If your talking to kids without their parents concent, I will bring it on so hard you won't know what hit you. You can bank on it.



I don't know what concent is, but it is consent. If parents are so concerned why are their kids free to roam the internet and contact adults? Seem like this is all the fault of the parent, not the adult just reading their email. You are being completely unreasonable and flying off the handle as usual.
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-10-2005 14:52
From: Catherine Cotton
Did I know Ryen was a minor? No your the one who told the community he was in fact a minor. I have not spoken to him at all BECAUSE ITS WRONG.

If your talking to kids without their parents concent, I will bring it on so hard you won't know what hit you. You can bank on it.


Catherine,

Your idle threats in no way concern me. I spoke specifically about this with Linden Lab on more than one occasion, and honestly, their opinion of it is what matters to me, not yours. Knock yourself out.
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Catherine Cotton
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08-10-2005 14:55
"Child Safety Online" ~ Internet Online Summit
State & Federal Resources
State Sex Offender Registers
Index to Topics on Sex Offenders
US Codes on Child Exploitation
Justice Department's Computer Crime Initiative
Dept of Justice CyberCrime Website
Reporting Internet Crimes

The U.S. Congress has funded these initiatives for reporting child sexual exploitation.
Possession, Manufacture, and Distribution of Child Pornography
Online Enticement of Children for Sexual Acts
Child Prostitution
Child-Sex Tourism
Child Sexual Molestation (not in the family)
Unsolicited Obscene Material Sent to aChild
Misleading Domain Name

LL said it was ok for certain adults to have private conversations with minors. Hell no I’m not ok with that, anyone who thinks that it is ok for any company do decide what is safe for my child and what is not; is wrong.

Are all sex offenders listed with LL? Can LL prove to me that none of these ppl are sex offenders? No they can't because they did not run a backround check on them before they knowingly allowed these adults to talk privatly with minors.

Yeah lets open this can of worms.

Anyone who thinks that we should trust the judgement of an obvously over taxed office is out of their cotton picken mind.

Cat
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Eboni Khan
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08-10-2005 15:03
From: Catherine Cotton
LL said it was ok for certain adults to have private conversations with minors. Hell no I’m not ok with that, anyone who thinks that it is ok for any company do decide what is safe for my child and what is not; is wrong.



Then keep your children off the internet. I am sure you are draggin them off with you to your Klan meetings anyway. ;)
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Catherine Cotton
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08-10-2005 15:04
From: Cristiano Midnight
Catherine,

Your idle threats in no way concern me. I spoke specifically about this with Linden Lab on more than one occasion, and honestly, their opinion of it is what matters to me, not yours. Knock yourself out.



idle threats? did it ever dawn on you that perhaps in this case LL steps over the bounds of good judgement in this case? Do you even have kids?
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Catherine Cotton
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08-10-2005 15:07
From: Eboni Khan
Then keep your children off the internet. I am sure you are draggin them off with you to your Klan meetings anyway. ;)



your saying im a member of the KKK your reported, and I sincerely hope that someone at LL finaly bans you for your discusting behavior on these forums.

NOTHING CHANGES HERE.

What color is my husband? What color is my best friend?

You don't know enough about me to make such ignorant statements.
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-10-2005 15:14
From: Catherine Cotton
idle threats? did it ever dawn on you that perhaps in this case LL steps over the bounds of good judgement in this case? Do you even have kids?


Yes they are idle threats, Catherine, as there is absolutely nothing that you can do to me. I have not done anything wrong, so I am not remotely concerned. Do you even have kids? Your story changes so often in these forums who the hell knows.

Linden Lab was not involved in any of this to begin with. Someone voluntarily emailed me by getting my email address from my web site. I responded, realized they were a teen, and asked LL out of courtesy how they felt about the teen grid snapzilla. I did not have to - it is not illegal to speak to a minor, no matter how much you are wailing about it.

I have had all of 3 emails I think - two for password help and one about the grid itself in the first place. If you are really really concerned about this issue, you would not be making a smoke screen out of nothing.

I have gone through the horror of having a minor family member get involved with a sexual predator - I am 100% behind protecting children from them. However, what I am opposed to is a pathetic witch hunt like yours which just distracts from a real issue simply because you have something against me.

BTW, if you are so concerned about protecting your children, then remove the ability for them to email anyone freely, or to IM, or to look at web pages. If they have access to any of those things, then apparently you have put them at risk and failed as a parent by your own standards.
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Eboni Khan
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08-10-2005 15:16
From: Catherine Cotton
your saying im a member of the KKK your reported, and I sincerely hope that someone at LL finaly bans you for your discusting behavior on these forums.

NOTHING CHANGES HERE.

What color is my husband? What color is my best friend?

You don't know enough about me to make such ignorant statements.



OMG! I hope I am banned also. I don't care Catherine. I think you are a racist evil troll. Although Klan can mean family meetings not just KKK meetings, I thought you were the close knit family type, since you are the mother hen to all children on the inernet, and above all, all the children on the teen grid. So you aren't the Mommy Mother Earth type? My bad, as the kids say.


Today you have sunk to a new low comparing people who respond to emails from teenagers asking for help to child sexual predators. Look in the mirror, before you go reporting people. Almost every post you make is worthy of being reported.
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Eboni Khan
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08-10-2005 15:18
From: Catherine Cotton
What color is my husband? What color is my best friend?



Catherine all I know is you made a racist webpage dedicated to me, that is really enough in my opinion.


I don't know much about the husband in Iraq you are cheating on the Claire, but you can tell us more.


Also, every racists always has that minority friend to fall back on. Thanks for being predictable!
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Nolan Nash
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Join date: 15 May 2003
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08-10-2005 15:22
Buh buh buh buh... I thought Cat had Cris on ignore...

If this keeps happening, I might not believe it... one of these days.
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Jake Reitveld
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Join date: 9 Mar 2005
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08-10-2005 15:26
From: Catherine Cotton
Absolutly nothing is a bit over the top when we are talking about protecting kids. Hell no I won't trust anyone in this community enough to chat privatly with my kid or grandkids. That is asking way too much of any parent who gives a damn about their kids online safety.

I don't give a damn how respected they are in the community I would hunt them down like a dog. Count on it.

Mom's mad as a wet hen! :mad:


So your kids can't use the internet at all? How to you regulate it, how do you guarantee they don't, in other sites, come into contact with adults? How do you gurantee thier safety in every day life. How do you protect tect them from the possiblity of a metorite hitting the earth (okay, the last one is far fetched, but some humor is allowed).
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08-10-2005 15:31
From: Jake Reitveld
So your kids can't use the internet at all? How to you regulate it, how do you guarantee they don't, in other sites, come into contact with adults? How do you gurantee thier safety in every day life. How do you protect tect them from the possiblity of a metorite hitting the earth (okay, the last one is far fetched, but some humor is allowed).



Sure hope they aren't locked up in a basement...
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Jake Reitveld
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08-10-2005 15:32
From: Catherine Cotton
"Child Safety Online" ~ Internet Online Summit
State & Federal Resources
State Sex Offender Registers
Index to Topics on Sex Offenders
US Codes on Child Exploitation
Justice Department's Computer Crime Initiative
Dept of Justice CyberCrime Website
Reporting Internet Crimes

The U.S. Congress has funded these initiatives for reporting child sexual exploitation.
Possession, Manufacture, and Distribution of Child Pornography
Online Enticement of Children for Sexual Acts
Child Prostitution
Child-Sex Tourism
Child Sexual Molestation (not in the family)
Unsolicited Obscene Material Sent to aChild
Misleading Domain Name

LL said it was ok for certain adults to have private conversations with minors. Hell no I’m not ok with that, anyone who thinks that it is ok for any company do decide what is safe for my child and what is not; is wrong.

Are all sex offenders listed with LL? Can LL prove to me that none of these ppl are sex offenders? No they can't because they did not run a backround check on them before they knowingly allowed these adults to talk privatly with minors.

Yeah lets open this can of worms.

Anyone who thinks that we should trust the judgement of an obvously over taxed office is out of their cotton picken mind.

Cat


Oddly enought the overwhelming majority of child abuse, even sexual happens at home by the parents and family. As one who has worked exetnsively in the juvenile legal system, i can say that protecting your kids is about educating your kids, and communicating with your kids. You can't always stop them from doing stupid things, but you can give them the tools to potentially minimze the damage from stupid things.
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Nolan Nash
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08-10-2005 15:32
From: ZsuZsanna Raven
Sure hope they aren't locked up in a basement...

Flowers in the Attic?

Or toys?
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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08-10-2005 15:33
From: Nolan Nash
Flowers in the Attic?

Or toys?



More like, The People Under the Stairs...
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Nolan Nash
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08-10-2005 15:33
From: ZsuZsanna Raven
More like, The People Under the Stairs...

Burn in Hell! ;)
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Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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08-10-2005 15:36
Anyone have anything constructive to add? I am not about to argue with ppl who see nothing wrong here. It's obvously wrong to a parent who's give a shit about their kid. If you ppl can't see that then your a sorry bunch.
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Lo Jacobs
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Join date: 28 May 2004
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08-10-2005 15:37
From: Catherine Cotton
I am not about to argue with ppl who see nothing wrong here.


:rolleyes:

Then stop arguing, because none of your points make any sense.

Thanks.
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ZsuZsanna Raven
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08-10-2005 15:38
From: Nolan Nash
Burn in Hell! ;)


I'll get you my pretty...and your little dog tooooo! ;P
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Catherine Cotton
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08-10-2005 15:38
From: Cristiano Midnight
Yes they are idle threats, Catherine, as there is absolutely nothing that you can do to me. I have not done anything wrong, so I am not remotely concerned. Do you even have kids? Your story changes so often in these forums who the hell knows.

Linden Lab was not involved in any of this to begin with. Someone voluntarily emailed me by getting my email address from my web site. I responded, realized they were a teen, and asked LL out of courtesy how they felt about the teen grid snapzilla. I did not have to - it is not illegal to speak to a minor, no matter how much you are wailing about it.

I have had all of 3 emails I think - two for password help and one about the grid itself in the first place. If you are really really concerned about this issue, you would not be making a smoke screen out of nothing.

I have gone through the horror of having a minor family member get involved with a sexual predator - I am 100% behind protecting children from them. However, what I am opposed to is a pathetic witch hunt like yours which just distracts from a real issue simply because you have something against me.

BTW, if you are so concerned about protecting your children, then remove the ability for them to email anyone freely, or to IM, or to look at web pages. If they have access to any of those things, then apparently you have put them at risk and failed as a parent by your own standards.



You have once again missed my point entirly.

It is not LL place to tell adults that they can speak with minors in private chat.
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-10-2005 15:39
From: Catherine Cotton
Anyone have anything constructive to add? I am not about to argue with ppl who see nothing wrong here. It's obvously wrong to a parent who's give a shit about their kid. If you ppl can't see that then your a sorry bunch.


Show us someone who actually does give a shit, and is not just grandstanding as usual, and perhaps people would care. It is wrong to hide behind the facade of wanting to protect children just to further your own agendas against people who are doing nothing wrong.
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Nolan Nash
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08-10-2005 15:45
From: Catherine Cotton
You have once again missed my point entirly.

It is not LL place to tell adults that they can speak with minors in private chat.

Quick, someone tell the 100s of other online game developers that have both adults and minors! Someone call FOX news, STAT!

It's not like adults can't private chat with minors in most of them.

And yes, I realize that those games don't have adult content, but we are talking about emails and IMs here not content, right?
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Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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08-10-2005 15:45
From: Cristiano Midnight
Show us someone who actually does give a shit, and is not just grandstanding as usual, and perhaps people would care. It is wrong to hide behind the facade of wanting to protect children just to further your own agendas against people who are doing nothing wrong.



So its ok with you for LL to allow adults to privatly chat with minors. Yeah I see your point of view.

Let's just all keep looking the other way until something bad does happen, yes yes thats the smart thing to do here.

It would of been nice to have a discussion for a change but again I see a whole lot of insults thrown my way.

I am defending the rights of kids here, and the same folks who are always against what I say are yet again against me on this issue. Good to know that the minors on the teen grid will not be protected by these adults. I find that realy sad for those kids.
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Cristiano Midnight
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08-10-2005 15:46
From: ZsuZsanna Raven
More like, The People Under the Stairs...


Ok this day is just getting weirder and weirder for me - I had two strange coincidences. The first, I was speaking to my girlfriend about the new movie Skeleton Key, and how elements of it reminded me of Serpent and the Rainbow. As I was looking up info about Serpent and the Rainbow, I was reminded of the movie the People Under the Stairs - now you mention it. Obscure movie and it comes up twice in the same day.

Also, earlier I was saying to someone that LL should have gotten secondlife.tv as the domain name for their new tv project. Then, a little while later, I had to deal with a work issue of a package that was bound for the Virgin Islands going to Tuvalu instead (aka the island that the .tv domain refers to). Again, another obscure and weird coincidence.

* spooked *
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