First Land not available ??

According to A Short History of Second Life: A Pirate's Guide:

The origins of the 'First Land' initiative was pioneered by Captain P. Nednil, who saw that the Governor was the largest landowner in all of the grid. After a hefty helping of rum, Nednil swaggered to the governor's mansion, held him up at gunpoint, and demanded 512sqm of land. The request was granted, and the Captain told the governor that any new arrivals who wanted 512sqm could get it at the 'modest' bribe of L$512.

Nednil's journals state that the governor's asking price was L$1024, but that he 'made him an offer he couldn't refuse.' While the offer was not explicitly stated in the journals, this has not prevented several historians from speculating about the precise caliber of this offer.

To this day, when the governor begins to stop taking bribes, Captain Nednil will make a short trip to the governor's mansion. Bribes are then accepted the next day, with a new 'discovery' in the governor's available land."

I'd also quote Fundamental Second Life Pirate Ethics: A Basic Primer (from the "Land for the Landless - Pillaging and Plundering" chapter), but that was another thread.

Watch out for those forum privateers!

Sorry there is a difference. At the time, the major argument was that there was a plethora of First Land. This case, which the OP made, is that now there are none and someone has lost out.

It's a good point. At least that is my opinion.

As was mine, I'm just not quite so eloquent. I prefer analogies and sarcasm

And whose fault is it that there is none now?

coco

Assuming that the Lindens release enough first land to cover every new person (new person RL) that joins (unique - not with same credit card -though you can see another loophole there also), if they put just enough up for those new people.... Then I would say that the reason the land is not available to these people is because non-*truely*new people are buying the land.

I'm going to take a stab and say the fault lays with those who know that there's a system to be gamed, and who proceed to game it.

All Emma did was make a comment. An observation on the direction this thread was heading. She's not trying to decide anything.

And to be consistent, nobody was forcing you to read or comment on Emma's post.

BTW, this thread has nearly turned to shit. Like many threads here.

Mine. I went to the WA and shouted "Thar's Gold in Them First Lands!"

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/scapegoat2_sm.jpg

I see, you get to speak for Emma and Nolan.

Now I speak for you. Does that make you right and me wrong?

Then, when I make a second alt (this one a basic) in order to group with myself, this, too, will be taking advantage and gaming the system, and thus unethical?

coco

I swear that people here can be thick at times.

I'm not "speaking for" anyone but myself.

The idea that Emma's post constitutes some sort of attempt to decide what people talk about is, and I'm being kind, a stretch.

If, for some reason, that qualifies as speaking for someone in your book, that's your problem, not mine.

As I understand it, the Lindens frown on using "true" alts to form groups in order to get the bonus.

But, because they have real no way of determining who is really an alt, they err on the side of caution.

"People", hmmm that sounds like "others"

And thank you for making it clear, that I am wrong, while you are right.....for doing the same thing.

OOh yeah I bought first land with all 300 of my alts. Thus ensureing that none of the 30000 alleged newbies who have come since I joied can get first land. Its mine I tell you all mine.

No Weedy, I actually meant that you are not getting what I wrote.

I mean what part of "I'm not speaking for anyone but myself" is hard to understand?

I just thought of something else.

When I bought First Land with Strawbearry, she removed $512 from the system. Entirely. By "paying" LL.

If she had bought the land from neighbors, that wouldn't have improved the economy, as no money would have been removed from the system.

(In addition to the fact that the more land I accumulate by whatever methods which is next to my own, the more tier I am likely to pay the Lindens and the more likely I am to expand further.)

coco

Oh don't worry, I see very clearly that you can stand in judgement of others, while scorning others for doing the same.

Do yourself a huge favor and withdraw from this thread.

*sigh*

For cryin' out loud, all I said was that it's a stretch for someone to claim Emma was trying to decide what people talk about.

If it makes you feel better, I just *disagree* with Nolan's comment.

Unless of course "standing in judgement" is the new "disagreement"

You are making a big deal out of nothing.

Now, we agree on something.

:niff::niff:::blood?

What is your point, Weedy?

Disagreeing with someone is just that disagreeing. It's not judgement of the person making the comments.

It was a question, not a claim. One you decided to answer for her. So yes, Weedy was right. You are speaking for Emma. And, you are misrepresenting my question as a "claim", and thereby speaking for me too.

I don't feel like arguing pedantic nonsense today DogSpot, so have the floor. Enjoy chapping your own butt.

Point is you called me "thick". That's judgement, hypocrite.

*hums the jaws theme*