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Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
Join date: 6 May 2004
Posts: 2,192
01-13-2005 17:17
I'd be quite a happy camper if LL added "Don't be an asshole" to their TOS...

*sighs*
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Anne Vindaloo
Registered User
Join date: 18 Jul 2004
Posts: 124
01-13-2005 17:29
Hey catherine, can we get a screenshot of your mute list? Thanks.
Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
01-14-2005 09:36
Pauses for a moment.....thinks.....pauses again.

First of all "Thank you" to those who posted how they also felt similar to how I feel. For well over a year I have seen my share of inappropriate things in this forum. Again I see I have been accused open of having a "bi-polar" mental condition. Again I see the multiple posts of insults and quick jabs by ppl I have never met or spoken to. Again I see accusations being throw out about something I may have said, but no quotes were given. Again I see mob mentality continue.

IMO this is obvious harassment it is against the rules of the forums. When I file the complaints via the reporting system nothing is done. This post is my formal complaint against those who have continued this harassment but more so LL your allowing it IMO is 1) bad for business. 2) really bad CS 3) very bad PR.

These forums represent 10-20% of all residents. Yet I see a lot of policy changes being based on these users opinions. Given the obvious behavior of the majority of posters in these forums I highly suggest they do not represent the feelings of those in world by any means.

I have nothing to say to all those who yet again chose to post out of spite, anger, contempt or chose to post a bold face lie. I have nothing to say because I have never met these ppl in world.

I do however have to say I feel I am being singled out as the forum "scapegoat
" . I do not appreciate the fact that LL allows this "gang" mentality.

I see most of the above posts as Harassment.

Main Entry: ha·rass
Pronunciation: h&-'ras, 'har-&s
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: French harasser, from Middle French, from harer to set a dog on, from Old French hare, interj. used to incite dogs, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German hier here -- more at HERE
1 a : EXHAUST, FATIGUE b : to annoy persistently
2 : to worry and impede by repeated raids <harassed the enemy>
synonym see WORRY
- ha·rass·er noun
- ha·rass·ment /-m&nt/ noun

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I found it very curiuos that not only did most of these ppl not know how I felt on any issue, but they never even took the time to ask me my opinion they just assumed what my thoughts were.

FYI:

Commercialism;
I am for it in SL via the player base. Run a business in SL, earn a profit, make enough to pay your land tier fees. Hell Yes!

Commercialism;
I am against it in SL via any corporation that would over shadow the work of the artists, builders, scriptures and those that play for social reasons. Hell No!

Government;

I am open to exploring our options.

Land Barons;

Fact is they are investing their own RL US$ what they do with it is none of my business.

Unless I see them trying to control the majority of the land and abuse that power. Via bans, and jacking up land prices, or controlling the auction process. I have nothing against them.

Economy;

Oh boy good one, I do believe LL made a mistake in this land round of changes and we will see a trickle down affect as a result.

Goodbyes:

In my case it means I'm fed up, and maybe I will see ya later. :)

I once said they would have to pry my dead cold fingers off my keyboard before I left SL. Yeah that's probably still true. For what its worth;

LL has always gone above and beyond my expectations when it came to interacting with their customer base.

LL has continued to blow my mind with their innovative ways for groups of ppl to create, interact and collaborate from all over the world.

LL continues to try and for that I thank them :)

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Until we can have an open adult conversation, with freely exchanged open and accepted ideals and the right to speak ones own opinion,without fear of reprisal. then a Metaverse is just a dream that cannot be fulfilled.

Catherine
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Artillo Fredericks
Friendly Orange Demon
Join date: 1 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,327
01-14-2005 10:11
From: Catherine Cotton
Until we can have an open adult conversation, with freely exchanged open and accepted ideals and the right to speak ones own opinion,without fear of reprisal. then a Metaverse is just a dream that cannot be fulfilled.


what exactly is a "freely exchanged open and accepted ideal"? How can you have a productive discussion/arguement about ANYTHING if the only ideals we can use are the "accepted" ones? Here's my opinion, that is a (edited) statement from soneone trying to sound like they understand logical thought and just can't. And it's my opinion, not a reprisal. I am starting to wonder why anyone bothers trying to get you to see their side of an issue.

I hate to break it to you, but the "metaverse" is gonna exist whether or not someone is offended by someone else's posts in some miniscule corner of the internet. LOL

Peace!

Arti

Edited to add:

:: gropes Pendari when she's not looking ::
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
01-14-2005 10:49
From: Artillo Fredericks
that is a (edited) statement from soneone trying to sound like they understand logical thought and just can't. And it's my opinion, not a reprisal. I am starting to wonder why anyone bothers trying to get you to see their side of an issue.

I hate to break it to you, but the "metaverse" is gonna exist whether or not someone is offended by someone else's posts in some miniscule corner of the internet. LOL

Peace!

Arti

Edited to add:

:: gropes Pendari when she's not looking ::



I am sorry if you don't understand what I am saying, Without the ability to speak ones opinion without fear of being called an "idiot" IMO, we will get no where in achieving a lofty goal like a metaverse.

I understand all sides of the issues, just because I dont agree doesn't mean I dont understand.

Your post sounds hostile to me.

"freely exchanged open and accepted ideal"

freely exchange of verbal open communitcation of or relating to philosophical idealism


"I am starting to wonder why anyone bothers trying to get you to see their side of an issue."

The same could be said for your statement:

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"I hate to break it to you, but the "metaverse" is gonna exist whether or not someone is offended by someone else's posts in some miniscule corner of the internet. LOL "

That is a valid opinion, not yet a fact. Yet you speak as if it is a fact.
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,418
01-14-2005 10:59
From: Catherine Cotton
. . .Without the ability to speak ones opinion without fear of being called an "idiot" IMO, we will get no where in achieving a lofty goal like a metaverse.

This is true Cat, and a great point. The same thing can be said when one simply dismisses the post of another because they disagree.
Alby Yellowknife
Sic Semper Tyrannis
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,148
01-14-2005 11:06
These Pretzels are making me thirsty... :)
Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,418
01-14-2005 11:18
Hmmm.. I wonder if I'm on mute as well. Cat hasn't responded to my posts of late.
Paris Cellardoor
Jefa del Cartel
Join date: 28 Dec 2003
Posts: 867
01-14-2005 11:29
From: Juro Kothari
Hmmm.. I wonder if I'm on mute as well. Cat hasn't responded to my posts of late.


Hehe...Oh my sweet Juro, you are SOOOOO muted. You know what I say to her...(edited). LOL :p
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
01-14-2005 11:40
From: Paris Cellardoor
Hehe...Oh my sweet Juro, you are SOOOOO muted. You know what I say to her...(edited). LOL :p


I dont appreciate being told ";(edited)" openly in the LL forums.
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Jeska Linden
Administrator
Join date: 26 Jul 2004
Posts: 2,388
01-14-2005 11:43
Even though I have repeatedly asked the posters to this thread to refrain from posting personal attacks at each other, the personal attacks continue to fly. For that reason and because this thread has gone far beyond the point of useful discussion, I am closing it.
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