Thanks ACLU: War Memorial To Be Torn Down

So sad that Wikipedia is your only source iof info...lol i go all over ...

http://www.answering-islam.org/God/

http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/quran-jesus.html

"Where are the peaceful followers of Islam?" the nationally syndicated radio host asked Aug. 24. "And why aren't they condemning the radical fanatics within their midst who are perpetuating crimes against humanity in the name of the Islamic religion?"

Christian churches are being attacked in Pakistan, and Christians are being slaughtered in Indonesia -- all at the hands of Muslim extremists, Land said, noting 11 Pakistani Christians are jailed in Pakistan under the nation's harsh blasphemy laws. Two of the men are slated to die by hanging because they refuse to renounce their faith in Jesus Christ, Land said, citing reports from the Compass Direct news service (www.compassdirect.org).

The Muslim government of Sudan is practicing an Islamic war of genocide, a jihad, against all the Christians and animists in the south, Land said during his program, Richard Land Live! "In the name of Allah, they have killed over 2 million of the nation's non-Muslim population, bombing hospitals and other relief centers."

And since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, there has been much discussion about whether this "vicious violence" represents true Islam or whether it is just an aberration within that religion, Land said. "So where are the peaceful Muslims protesting the violence and mayhem that is being waged in their name? Where are the protests from the so-called peace-loving followers of Islam in the U.S.?" he asked again.

http://sites.silaspartners.com/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID314166|CHID596936|CIID1565304,00.html?

Make you wonder if it is god .. why would they burn the christain churches ?????

if we are supossed to be the same .???????

If you notice in the Wikipedia version, it does say that the Muslim God is different from the Christian God. (Monotheism)

As for the rest, much has been done by Christians to other various "heretics" in order to convert them. Sheeesh, does no one remember the Crusades?

No, I am not saying the Muslim extremists are right because the Christians did it first. Just a handy reminder that there is much history of oppression and violence from both groups.

It's so sad that you go to Christian websites to get your information about Muslims, too.

I hear you, however I feel a cross can mean more than just religion. A symbol of fallen people. If it was a crucifix I'd object, but a cross I could be more tolerant of.

Any pictures?

A cross I can't accept as a nonreligious symbol. The only nonreligious connotation it has is as an execution tool. Not really a memorial to fallen soldiers..

How long have you been on the crack pipe?

here is a political stancs on .. this ... not only christain site then !!!

The Biblical book of Amos (5:14) states that one should "Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the Lord, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken." The Qur'an (7:74), in fact, admonishes one to "Remember ye the bounties of Allah, seek ye not evil in the earth, making mischief."


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Evil_has_found_a_willing_servant


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Infinite_justice

This term, literally translated into Arabic, would imply the adl (justice) of Allah (God), and would thus likely be understood by as a Muslim as reflecting a religious judgement or fatwa - one issuing from a kaffir U.S. President, George W. Bush. In that same week, he had also used the term "Crusade", which for Muslims usually implies genocide such as those carried out by Europeans in the First Crusade. To many, this usage implied a War on Islam by the United States.

http://www.nwcreation.net/wiki/index.php?title=Qur'an_vs._Bible
http://2tim215.com/articles/allahgod.htm





http://www.holybiblesays.org/articles/allahgod.htm

think I understand what our political leaders are attempting to do by their barrage of rhetoric regarding the "true nature" of Islam. I support unity in the US fight against terror; I am behind our President and our forces, I will go and fight if needed; I desire peace on American soil and around the world, but NOT AT THE PRICE OF TRUTH. There is a subtle doctrine being promoted in our press right now that is dangerous. A reader responded to a recent article by urging me to stand behind the President and to not promote division. He informed me that Allah was just "another word for God". Hear me scream: NO! ALLAH AND GOD ARE NOT THE SAME! We have a case of stolen identity here. We must determine the differences between God and Allah by their attributes.

From Foundation Magazine September-October 2001 issue. "No, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. Christians worship a God who has declared Himself to mankind through the person and work of Jesus Christ, God manifest in the flesh. Muslims worship an impersonal god who is so transcendent that he is unknowable. They adamantly reject the fact that Jesus Christ is God. Christians worship a God who saves mankind by His grace through faith alone in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Muslims worship a god who requires them to perform a wide variety of works, rites and rituals in order for them to even hope to experience a paradise in the life hereafter. Christians worship a God who indwells them in the person of the Holy Spirit and keeps them secure throughout their lives. Muslims reject any God who indwells them and has such a personal relationship with mankind."

http://www.contra-mundum.org/schirrmacher/compared.pdf#search='differences%20between%20god%20and%20allah'



GOD
Christians as well as Muslims believe in One God, the creator of heaven and earth and
the creator of each single individual. God has put down his will in writing in his holy
book. On the Day of Judgement, he will call everybody to account at the end of the
times.
Qur'ân Bible
1. Allah is the creator of the universe and of
each single individual, but he is transcendental,
i.e., he is seperated from creation. There is no
connection between creator and creature (sura
55,1-78; 6,100-101).
1. God created man in His image and
made him His counterpart. He
revealed his character in His creation.
Jesus is the the bridge between God
and man (John 1:14-15).
2. Allah has no children. Jesus may not be
worshipped as God. To believe in the trinity is
polytheism. To worship more than one God is
the most evil sin in Islam which can't be
forgiven, since there is only one God (Allah
means 'the God' or 'the goddess') (5,72-73+75;
4,171-172).
2. God's only Son is Jesus Christ.
Jesus came to earth as a human being
and is himself God. Father, Sohn and
Holy Spirit are a single, triune God
(John 1:1-2).



and so on ... a must read to the link about this ...

When discussing religions and faiths I go to the people. Of all the muslims I've spoken to, only one has felt that the christian/hebrew god was different from the islamic one.

Therefore, I can only come to the conclusion 99% of muslims feel they are the same god.

That being said, a cross has no place representing all soldiers of any time period (except perhaps crusaders..but then the morality of the crusades is openly political).

Kiamat, this is NOT a christian nation. It's in our constitution as a matter of fact dumbass. See Treaty of Tripoli, article 11, 5th congress. Here's a taste , "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity..." blah blah blah. Here's the link Kiamat http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html


Kiamat spanked again, it's just so easy really.

"Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation. "

Oh yea, unanimous vote too.

Funny how thats so hard for revisionists to accept Priapus..

That section of the treaty was also published in a Boston newspaper and created no public outcry whatsoever. It's amazing what a couple hundred years of revisionist history can do, eh?

Oh, so cuz I'm black I gotta be a crack addict? I suppose you'd be happier if they just burned the cross, huh?

-Kiamat Dusk

I never said it was a Christian nation. And the Treaty of Tripoli is not the Constitution. Show me the words "separation of church and state" in the Constitution.

I can see that the participants in this thread cannot bring it to the level of reasonable debate so I'll leave you all to it.

-Kiamat Dusk

Got that confused lol it was Witches !!! NOT !! Blacks ... burn at the stakes And i hate the phrase Black anys .. i like the Term African American ....

-The KKK burns crosses outside the homes of blacks to intimidate them. They also do it at their rallies.



-Right. So I'm half offended. Glad you saw that I wasn't serious.

-Kiamat Dusk

Because of this exchange in this thread

Here are a few tidbits you can investigate...


Perhaps you can let me know if any of this doesn't check out.

Here I was sort of perplexed at my feeling that you were being arrogant in the Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians? thread tonight, where you represent your opinions as fact, and are telling people they are "wrong", when there is no way to really know who is wrong or right unless you created the human race yourself. Thanks for taking away any doubt I had as to whether or not I was misjudging.




Beacuse PPl find it easier to follow like a sheep then stand on there own ... or they are truely lost ...

and wonders how ppl are brougth up any more or could be .... False Religions there

Lifestyle ppl choose today ...

i just dont know .. lol Or just like they role play here in SL they are still playing there part like a actor ... and saying this stuff ....

Or like in high school If you go Against yours friends your on things your labeled a traitor ....

so many factors .. out there


Edit to some thing else:

Under no circumstances is Jehovah, the God of the Bible, and Allah, of the Koran, the same. First of all, the God of the Bible is a God of love and redemption, who sent His Son into the world to die for our sins. Allah tells people to die for him in order to get salvation, but there is no understanding of salvation. Allah was the moon god from Mecca. That is why Islam has the crescent moon. The flag of Turkey has a crescent moon with a star in it. Well, the crescent moon is because Allah was the moon god, and that is the deal. But we don't serve a moon god. We serve the God of creation, the Creator of everything.

They are not the same. To translate Allah as God is wrong. When you see something in there and it says Allah, you translate it Allah. Don't call it God because it is different. God is Elohim. He is the Creator, the Jehovah God, Yahweh. Yahweh of the Old Testament was the Father who brought forth Jesus into the world.

Zeph, can you explain what you are saying? I don't understand.

You quoted Nolan's reaction to me from another thread (actually 2 other threads). In the "Why do people hate Christians" thread I was presenting the central ideas of a book I had recently read. However, I did not tell anyone I was arguing from a book. To be clear, I was not advocationg any religion, but I was trying to present the idea of some Evolutionary Psychologists who suggest that RELIGIOUS THOUGHT is hard-wired into the human brain.

I am not sure I understand your reply to that post. Please explain.

Sorry i thought you were asking a Question .,...

Why does it seem the SL population hates Christians?


and i was just replying

So who besides Christians think the cross is significant?

Seriously, after Rome put down Sparticus' slave rebellion, crucified men, women, and children lined the Appian way (one of the main roads leading into ancient Rome). Why should anybody other than a Christian think the cross has any significance considering the number of people who were crucified?

Did you read my post just a few up the page? Check it out and tell me what you think.

I think the description of its uses throughout history and across many cultures classifies the cross as a universal symbol.

On problem Champie. All those are religious. I specifically said NONRELIGIOUS