Conversation between Bush and Blair

The President is supposed to serve the will of The People. Not just the will of those that voted for him.

The problem I see is that you are confusing your local senators & represenatives with with the President of the United States of America.

Last I checked, George W. Bush was still prefixed with President, not King or His Highness.

Briana Dawson

Um....I voted for him because the other guy was much worse... isn't that the nature of US Presidential elections? You vote for the lesser of 2 evils? Not the way it SHOULD be, but certainly the way it IS.

"Human Nature" depresses me.

You are right. I would have voted for Kerry if he wasn't such a flip-flopper and was more hawkish when it came to the Middle-East and American Foreign Policy.

But then there was that swift boat thing

Briana Dawson

you guys can't be serious. syria guides hezbollah. the lebanese government doesn't even control parts of its own country. if they can't clear out hezbollah, then they should thank israel for doing it for them.

i think iraq should just have been a case study. the west needs to go and clean house in the middle east. enough cultural relativism. no more military dictators or religious tyrants. if people are serious about peace in the middle east they need to stop letting neighbouring nations use palestinians as canon fodder against israel.

I can't even imagine a President who flip-flops more than Bush.

WRONG!!! The President serves the Constitution, not the people. The Constitution says nothing about serving the people in the Presidents job description. Thats one reason why the Framers didn't have the President directly elected by the people. They wanted the President to be more independant. The President can't serve the "Will of the People" because there is no single "Will of the People" everybody has an opinion about everything.

http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/constitution_transcript.html

The Constitution IS the will of The People.

"We The People"

Der.

How about you finish the sentence and you will realize its not the "Will of the People"

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Food is primary. Air is really primary. Water. Shelter. Procreation. Sleep. Recreation. Not religion. So, in the pre-industrial, industrial and post-industrial ages we poison the air, pollute the water, work too long hours, don't get enough rest or exercise, and eat foods that kill us. But we kill each other over religion. By the millions we kill each other."



How can you make sense out of the horrifying death, destruction, and billons spent on killing people, indeed of helping them? Pollution generates greenhouse gases, which heat up oceans, spawn hurricanes, melt the Alaskan icebergs, and send temperatures skyrocketing over 100 degrees. All the while people are suffering. But the polluters are delighted. The Bush Republican Administration does nothing while Americans sizzle.



When the "weapons of mass destruction" lies that rushed the U.S. into the Iraq War were proven untrue, the Republican spin control machine changed the goal for waging war in Iraq. Suddenly the reason for the Iraq War became the need to spread U.S. style freedom and democracy all over the entire Middle East. Has Bush spread freedom and democracy in the U.S.?Has he????

Instead of "freedom and democracy" the rush to the Iraq War evolved into civil war in that nation. But that didn't stop Administration officials from taking bows for doing a magnificent job.

Some humanist-thinking individuals<looks around>, who realize that over 100,000 Iraqis have been killed in a senseless war, loathe seeing U.S. service personnel dying almost daily. Others return without arms, legs, or hopes for the American dream. All the while the Iraq War rages on.

We have seen what happened when Palestinians were allowed to vote. They voted for Hamas. Did anyone think that 50 years of occupation would bring about any other result? When much of the Hamas elected government was kidnapped in a rage over the outcome of the democratic vote, the civilized world watched in horror.

Hezbollah responded with rocket attacks on Israel, killing some Israelis and kidnapping two Israeli soldiers. Bombs began falling on the Gaza Strip and in Southern Lebanon.

Hezbollah and Hamas leaders were targeted for assassination. The Hezbollah leader in Southern Lebanon escaped assassination when Israeli planes bombed his house in a reply to this. He has declared war on Israel. Lebanon has experienced 200 deaths, while roads, airports, and bridges have been destroyed.

Iran and Syria have been accused of helping Hezbollah with rockets. Bush's response is that "Israel must defend itself." Fouad Siniora, Prime Minister of Lebanon, while his nation is being bombed and its infrastructure demolished with 200 reported deaths thus far, has declared, "Terrorists are fighting each other on both sides and we are caught in the middle."

President Vladimir Putin of Russia calls for restraint. Condoleezza Rice has called for Israel to show restraint, basically asking for a balanced response to the kidnapping of the 2 Israeli soldiers Israel wants safely returned.

Hezbollah claims that it will stop its efforts if Israel will free the 10,000 prisoners of war being currently held who have not received trials or had formal indictments handed down against them to date.

Many nations are asking for the United Nations to negotiate an end to the great tragedy. Some spokespersons within the Arab world claim that Israel is a terrorist nation subsidized by the United States. The charge is that Israel has been supplied with every kind of weapon, including nuclear weaponry. Is this true? Let the UN check out these claims.

By Bob Kendall

The preamble of the Constitution clearly asserts it's the will of the people to establish this Constitution. What do you think the above means?

The Constitution is a legal blueprint for our government. It does not say that the Constitution serves the will of the people.

You have, more than once, ignored the concept that there is no single will of the people. How is the President or Congress going to serve the will of the people, when there is no single will of the people. What I think is best for the country is going to be completely wrong based on your beliefs. So how is the President supposed to serve the will of the people?

He could start by not dismantling the Constitution...which IS the will of the people whether you believe it or not. You are confusing "will of the people" with "majority rule".
I have never been a proponant of mob rule.

He could also realize that he has a responsabilty to serve the people, not a mandate to rape the country for his wealthy friends.

You're so right. And insightful comments like


demonstrate he is obviously a man with a powerful intellect and understanding of the deeper issues of global politics.

One of the important principles on which the Constitution is based is the separation of powers, which divides power between the three separate branches of the federal government. The legislative branch (represented by Congress) has the power to create laws; the executive branch (represented by the president and his advisers) has the power to enforce laws; and the judicial branch (represented by the Supreme Court and other federal courts) has the power to dismiss or reverse laws that it determines are "unconstitutional."-


--ummm unless your george Bush, and decide to declare an unwarrented attack on other countries..in which you can suspend each or all of these divisions!!

Are you saying that the President has the power to suspend the courts during a time of war?

Briana Dawson

The Violent Crime Control Act of 1991 provides additional powers to the President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution and Constitutional rights of Americans during a "drug crisis". It provides for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military control of populated areas. This, teamed with the Executive Orders of the President, enables Orwellian prophecies to rest on whoever occupies the White House. The power provided by these "laws" allows suspension of the Constitution and the rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights during any civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes and allows the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of Martial Law. When the Constitution of the United States was framed it placed the exclusive legislative authority in the hands of Congress and with the President. Article I, Section 1 of the United States Constitution is concise in its language, "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." That is no longer true. The Bill of Rights protected Americans against loss of freedoms. That is no longer true. The Constitution provided for a balanced separation of powers. That is no longer true...

The overconfidence of Bush is becoming the arrogance of an entire nation; will this be America’s undoing. The front page story in the July 1, 2003 issue of Israel’s “Haaretz,” mentions Bush told a meeting of Arabs on June 24th thatGod told him to bomb Afghanistan and Iraq. The Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, quoted Bush as saying:

“God told me to strike at Al Qaeda and I struck them.”

“And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.”

We are now a nation with a leader taking his orders directly from God. Heaven help us

thats all well and good but you didn't address Briana's question. She asked about the Judicial branch.

Under Bush, the executive branch has claimed the authority to hold individuals indefinitely without trial by labeling them as “enemy combatants.” This suspends the right to due process and puts accused individuals beyond the protection of the courts. The administration has also declared that its war-fighting efforts will not be bound by international treaties and conventions.

Seven days after the 9/11 attacks, Congress passed Public Law 107-40. This joint resolution, commonly referred to as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force” (AUMF), gave Mr. Bush “specific statutory authorization” to:
… se all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

Rather than suspend habeas corpus, Bush declares people "enemy combatants" and keeps them out of the jurisdiction of federal courts. No one knows how many Arab Americans (or Middle Easterners) have been rounded up, but rather than create internment camps, they are deporting them, sending them to secret prisons.

He circumvents judicial authority DAILY!!!...im so surprised intelligent people dont SEE THIS....amazing

...and to have to actually EXPLAIN this to you shows you post just to be argumentative..open your eyes..read something other than what the "man" wants you to read...this is what scares me about this country, there are so many automatrons out there that are so willing to believe what they are told, what they see, is truth.

I hope you have better luck at this than I have.

and for those of us who read and believe what we believe because it is what we think? oh wait because there can't possibly be an opposing view to yours if we read.

Do not say we are uninformed because our views are different from yours, that is childish and makes your side look worse.

Im sorry Billy, but you read and believe what you believe because you've been "trained" to believe that...no matter how much you argue that its "your" belief", your "gut" belief...your just a puppet to the system

..and now..some comic relief...