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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-20-2006 11:43
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07-20-2006 11:47
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Garoad Kuroda
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07-20-2006 11:49
I talk to everyone at their level of intelligence. Why don't you link to this supposed Bin Laden statement. I'll wait. Well, since you've initiated it, I now feel justified in calling you a dumbass too. I talk to everyone at the level of respect they grant others. You should learn something from Chip, you see, he can disagree with people in a reasonable manner that allows me to still have respect for him afterwards. You on the other hand, resort to personal attacks (like this) and name calling regularly, therefore you deserve little respect. All this time, I have never personally attacked you once, unless there was a case where you initiated it first. Yet here you are, making personal attacks on someone you disagree with yet again--you know what? You can kiss my ass! And I'll even let you wear your little tin foil hat at the same time. Just before the 2004 election, there was a Bin Laden tape which received little news coverage (wonder why..) where he basically threatened "red states" saying that the "blue states" would be spared from future attacks. This was a long time ago and I don't have a link anymore. I've already seen it for myself, why should I waste my time finding a link? Do you own research, it's not my fault the dumbasses at antiwar.com and moveon.org didn't cover that little tidbit back then...I guess they were too busy promoting their own agendas and that didn't seem to help much. _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 11:52
Well, since you've initiated it, I now feel justified in calling you a dumbass too. I talk to everyone at the level of respect they grant others. You should learn something from Chip, you see, he can disagree with people in a reasonable manner that allows me to still have respect for him afterwards. You on the other hand, resort to personal attacks (like this) and name calling regularly, therefore you deserve little respect. All this time, I have never personally attacked you once, unless there was a case where you initiated it first. Yet here you are, making personal attacks on someone you disagree with yet again--you know what? You can kiss my ass! And I'll even let you wear your little tin foil hat at the same time. Just before the 2004 election, there was a Bin Laden tape which received little news coverage (wonder why..) where he basically threatened "red states" saying that the "blue states" would be spared from future attacks. This was a long time ago and I don't have a link anymore. I've already seen it for myself, why should I waste my time finding a link? Do you own research, it's not my fault the dumbasses at antiwar.com and moveon.org didn't cover that little tidbit back then...I guess they were too busy promoting their own agendas and that didn't seem to help much. I don't have time to respect your ignorance, Garoad. Frankly I see you as part of the problem of what's wrong with the United States. If you can't back up your claim about what Bin Laden said --it's not up to me to prove you wrong. It's up to you to back up your claim. _____________________
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Lorelei Patel
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07-20-2006 11:59
Was curious, so I went looking. Found this at the National Review :
Oh the American people, I address these words to you regarding the optimal manner of avoiding another Manhattan, and regarding the war, its causes and its consequences. But before this, I say to you: Security is one of the important pillars of human life, and free men do not take their security lightly, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. Let him explain why we did not attack Sweden, for example. Clearly, those who hate freedom have no pride, unlike the 19 [suicide hijackers of 9/11], may Allah have mercy on them. We have been fighting you because we are free men who do not remain silent in the face of injustice. We want to restore our [Islamic] nation's freedom. Just as you violate our security, we violate yours. But I am amazed at you. Although we have entered the fourth year after the events of 9/11, Bush is still practicing distortion and deception against you and he is still concealing the true cause from you. Consequently, the motives for its reoccurrence still exist... We had no difficulty dealing with Bush and his administration, because it resembles the regimes in our [Arab] countries, half of which are ruled by the military, and the other half are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents with whom we have had a lot of experience. Among both types, there are many who are known for their conceit, arrogance, greed, and for taking money dishonestly. This resemblance began with the visit of Bush Sr. to the region. While some of our people were dazzled by the U.S. and hoped that these visits would influence our countries, it was he who was influenced by these monarchic and military regimes. He envied them for remaining in their positions for decades, while embezzling the nation's public funds with no supervision whatsoever. He bequeathed tyranny and the suppression of liberties to his son and they called it the Patriot Act, under the pretext of war on terrorism. Bush Sr. liked the idea of appointing [his] sons as state governors. Similarly, he did not neglect to import into Florida the expertise in falsifying [elections] from the leaders of this region in order to benefit from it in difficult moments. We agreed with the general commander Muhammad Atta, may Allah have mercy on him, that all operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration would become aware. We never imagined that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face this great horror alone when they needed him most. It seemed to him that a girl's story about her goat and its butting was more important than dealing with planes and their 'butting' into skyscrapers. This allowed us three times the amount of time needed for the operations, Allah be praised. Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands, and any U.S. state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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07-20-2006 12:05
I don't have time to respect your ignorance, Garoad. Frankly I see you as part of the problem of what's wrong with the United States. If you can't back up your claim about what Bin Laden said --it's not up to me to prove you wrong. It's up to you to back up your claim. Respecting someone should not be determined by how much knowledge a person lacks. I'm sure you wished to be respected regardless of your intellect level or sex/gender. The article is below: http://forums.secondlife.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1161110 Exclusive: Kerry Says UBL Tape Cost Him Election NEW YORK — John Kerry believes he lost to President Bush because of the video from Usama bin Laden that surfaced just days before the Nov. 2 presidential election. The Massachusetts senator told FOX News' senior correspondent Geraldo Rivera that he believes he lost because the tape may have scared the American electorate. Rivera spoke to Kerry on Thursday as the senator and a slew of other notable names — including wife Teresa Heinz Kerry, actors Robin Williams and Morgan Freeman and comedian Chris Tucker — were in a holding room prior to the processional leading up to the formal opening of the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, Ark. "Tough luck, senator," Rivera said to Kerry, referring to the Democrat's election loss. Trying to recount Kerry's words verbatim, Rivera said Kerry responded by saying: "It was that Usama tape — it scared them [the American people]." Rivera said Kerry said the tape came out too late for his camp to rebut and the Democratic campaign couldn't counteract it in time for the Tuesday election. "Sen. Kerry clearly believes not only is it the security issue that cost him the election, but very specifically the Usama tapes coming out in the 11th hour," Rivera reported Friday. Kerry also acknowledged that the security issue in general hurt him in the race, Rivera said. The broadcast of the tape from the Al Qaeda leader jolted the campaign's closing days, accentuating the terrorism theme with a reminder of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. In the tape, aired by the Arab television network Al-Jazeera, bin Laden spoke directly to the American people. He admitted for the first time that he carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and said the attacks would have been less severe if Bush had been more alert. He promised to lay out "the best way to avoid another Manhattan" and told Americans, "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands." The tape caused Kerry to revive his contention that Bush missed an opportunity to capture or kill bin Laden during the Afghan war. The Democratic challenger asserted throughout the campaign that U.S. forces could have run down bin Laden in the Tora Bora (search) mountains in late 2001 if they had gone after him on the ground, and he blamed Bush for the decision to let Afghan forces lead that chase. But during the campaign, Republicans insinuated that terrorists would prefer to see Kerry in office, saying the Massachusetts senator would be too soft in the War on Terror. Some political observers believe that many Americans voted for Bush not only because of his strong stance in the War on Terror but because they held tight to the adage of, "you don't change horses in midstream." House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, in responding to the FOX News report, said she does believe the bin Laden tape favored the president a little but would not say it outright tipped the election. "It was a reminder he [bin Laden] still at large," she told FOX News. "I think what we could see in the polls a real lead for Kerry and that made a couple points difference … I think it had an effect." On another note, Kerry is thanking supporters in an e-mail for moving voters, holding Bush accountable and for helping counter "the attacks from big news organizations" such as FOX News. "I want to thank you personally for what you did in the election — you rewrote the book on grassroots politics, taking control of campaigns away from big donors. No campaign will ever be the same," Kerry wrote. "You moved voters, helped hold George Bush accountable, and countered the attacks from big news organizations such as Fox, Sinclair Broadcasting, and conservative talk radio." Kerry went on saying the Bush administration is planning "a right wing assault on values and ideals we hold most deeply" and that diverse opinions are being "eliminated" from the State Department and CIA with the personnel reshuffling, and the Bush Cabinet is being remade to "rubber stamp policies that will undermine Social Security, balloon the deficit, avoid real reforms in health care and education, weaken homeland security, and walk away from critical allies around the world." Kerry also vowed to "continue to challenge this administration" on a variety of issues, ranging from election standards and health care for children. FOX News' Carl Cameron, Jim Mills, Liza Porteus and Geraldo Rivera contributed to this report. ----------------- Briana Dawson _____________________
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Garoad Kuroda
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07-20-2006 12:06
I don't have time to respect your ignorance, Garoad. Frankly I see you as part of the problem of what's wrong with the United States. If you can't back up your claim about what Bin Laden said --it's not up to me to prove you wrong. It's up to you to back up your claim. Right back at you, you make me feel the same way about you. My ignorance... heh, ironic, since you're the one in the dark on this. So ignore it if you want to, I'm not here to educate and inform. You'd just start dreaming up some kind of counter-point in an attempt to downplay it, anyway. But don't call me an idiot for saying something, if you can't disprove it either. You could have just asked for some kind of proof, without the personal attack (to which I'd still be too lazy to provide a link), but you just couldn't resist tossing out another insult. Whatever. I'm logging off now, I have better things to do. And I suggest you do the same, _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Briana Dawson
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07-20-2006 12:08
Here is a link to that transcript on Wikipedia: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Text_of_2004_Osama_bin_Laden_videotape
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:13
Here is a link to that transcript on Wikipedia: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Text_of_2004_Osama_bin_Laden_videotape Briana Dawson There is no mention of "Red States" or "Blue States" in there at all. It's also debatable that the tape in question was even from Osama Bin Laden. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-20-2006 12:14
yeah, yall forget she thinks Bin Laden was killed in '03
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Nyoko Salome
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07-20-2006 12:14
no time to wrestle, but i couldn't give a shit that he said 'shit'.
i just wonder if all his fundy-voting base likes their 'my hero is jesus christ' guy saying shit like 'shit'. lol... and his penchant for flipping the finger... then again, they're 'christians' who believe in killing people. so what makes sense anymore, anyways? _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:15
yeah, yall forget she thinks Bin Laden was killed in '03 as do most World Leaders in the areas he is supposedly hiding. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-20-2006 12:16
as do most World Leaders in the areas he is supposedly hiding. uhuh! ![]() |
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Briana Dawson
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07-20-2006 12:18
,,, then again, they're 'christians' who believe in killing people. so what makes sense anymore, anyways? Golly, christians have been killing people (as well as each other) for ages. So the fact that its happening now is rather unsuprising. Briana Dawson _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:21
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Lorelei Patel
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07-20-2006 12:21
There is no mention of "Red States" or "Blue States" in there at all. It's also debatable that the tape in question was even from Osama Bin Laden. Did you actually read it or just do a search on the words Red, Blue or States? It's there in context. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:22
Did you actually read it or just do a search on the words Red, Blue or States? It's there in context. no it isn't. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-20-2006 12:23
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:27
(too lazy to retype) or think -- apparently. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-20-2006 12:29
or think -- apparently. I considered it the first time you tried to force this garbage down our throats. Just because I considered it and dismissed it as moronic, don't get all pissy. |
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Lorelei Patel
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07-20-2006 12:30
or think -- apparently. You're a real charmer and a credit to your team. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:31
I considered it the first time you tried to force this garbage down our throats. Just because I considered it and dismissed it as moronic, don't get all pissy. Then don't complain that I decided you were moronic ages ago. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-20-2006 12:31
You're a real charmer and a credit to your team. what took you so long? _____________________
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Lorelei Patel
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07-20-2006 12:32
what took you so long? To realize you were a forum bully? Happened years ago. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-20-2006 12:32
Then don't complain that I decided you were moronic ages ago. lol, you decided? hell I'd have told you. probably would have saved you alot of time. |