A Question for Christians

Little?

Judge not

Remember that one?

I know I am going to hell for some things I have done. Now, you guys are quoting passages as well to argue that the Bible is bad. You are in effect picking and choosing the passages that support YOUR ideas. So when you feel like not being hypocritical, let us know.

Not really. He still maintains: A rich man cannot buy his way into heaven. It is impossible. Remember, at the time, jews often thought that wealth and prosperity were signs of God's favor or blessing. Jesus is saying no, how rich you are has nothing to do with being Godly or Saved.

Nothing of man (Wealth) can save you. Period. God, however, can.

My son said that no one who isn't willing to hand over everything they have to another and walk away from it can claim to be following God's word. Now keep in mind he just gave me a quick answer on his way out the door to work so I can't ask him for more information. My understanding of what he may believe is that if you have something you must be willing to give it to someone else at any moment, that it's not about what you have or don't have, but that it is about what you are willing to give up. But I can't elaborate on that and I may not be correctly understanding, sorry.

EDIT: One thing I can attest to that he has said is that passage to heaven can not be bought, can not be earned by good deeds.

Your comment was less than three sentances, therefor little.

By the way, the full verse is "lest ye be judged", or any number of varients. Not simply "judge not". Theres also a lot more to that passage. The gist of it is, don't judge people by a standard you would not want to be judged by. I have not done that.

As per Grover Norquist's suggestion to shrink Government so small that it can be strangled in bathtub --yes --the ultimate goal is to shrink Government and privatize it to wealthy megacorps like Haliburton and religious money laundering groups like the 700 club.

The current crop of neo-cons are killing the government PRECISELY bercause the government is "of the people".

What part of "fascism" do you not understand?

Considering bribery was likely commonplace in that era, the idea of having to pay more to cut lines, gain passage, get preferential treatment etc would have probably been more obvious.

I'm not saying my previous suggestion of deathbed extortion didn't happen... regardless of the original intent of the passage. (which sounds spot on when you put it that way)

since the defintion of fascism is an ultra-nationalistic government, do you?

Fascism is a radical totalitarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-rationalism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Where in my quote do you see me saying that He did?

READ

Well billy as NICE AS THAT SOUNDS. You are wrong.

I'm using the bible to show how you believers interpret it they way that best fits your own personal belief structure and lifestyle.

Good attempt at spinning it your way for the people who don't read.

Briana Dawson

The part where that applies to us


Sorry Kendra, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

That's not the definition of fascism, Billybob.

Fascists USE nationalism to dope the masses.

Fascism is the corporate privatization of Governmental function.
It USES authoritarianism, nationalism. militarism et al to achieve it's goal.

How is it hypocritical?

We're not the ones claiming that the Bible is the word of God and that everything in it is true and has to be followed to the letter.
WE can pick and choose all we want. For example, WE'RE not the ones who use Scripture to back up arguments against homosexuality, conveniantly ignoring the fact that it says a couple of lines later that you should stone adulterers!


Just so you know, by the way, I'm not saying the Bible is bad. I'm just sick of holier-than-thou bigots calling it the infallible Word of God, written BY Him, every word, while ignoring things that don't fit with how they want to live.

Bible=Good thing.

You can still be a Christian and disagree with certain passages.
If you disagree with that, forget the Red Lobster buffet after Church on Sunday!
And no bacon for you, either.

And, Billy, You're not going to Hell.
God loves you and I truly do believe that you love Him. That's all you need, brother.

When you accuse us of skipping the bad parts of the Bible to justify our beliefs, and then turn around and quote just the bad parts to justify yours. That sounds hypocritical to me, sorry not trying to spin anything, but do try again.

It could be used that way, I'm sure. But that doesn't explain the original scriptural cite.

Jesus is supposed to have lived during a time when impoverished holy men were a tradition. John the Baptist, Elijah, Isaiah, Malachi and so on were all part of the ancient tradition which correlated the disavowal of worldly goods with holiness. The Essenes (who were around at the time of Jesus) formed an entire sect around the rejection of wealth -- in fact, most of their recorded writings bear an eerie resemblance to what we find in the New Testament attributed to Christ.

Without trying to excuse the excesses of the Roman Catholic Church, it should be pointed out that on principle, they require their priests to also reject worldly wealth. They just differentiate between personal wealth and the tax deductible wealth the Church allows them to use.

Coming soon!, Port Neualtenburg will be holding it's first ever Leviticus Party.

It's time for:

ABOMINATIONATION!!!

Show your pride in Funadama by strutting your Gay Pride while eating lobster and wearing two kinds of fabric at the same time!

Keep your eyes peeled on the Events section.

Special prizes for Male avatars dressed in women's weeds!!!!!

Christianity is not for everybody. It is the underdog's religion. It was tailored to provide a meaningful existence (and a good deal of revenge) to the weak, the poor, the sick, the uneducated, fishermen, prostitutes, and lepers. Nothing wrong with it, really. Everyone longs to infuse some meaning into their lives. Makes life much more bearable. It becomes a problem, however, when this to-be-weak-is-glorious philosophy starts to corrupt strong individuals (rich, healthy, educated, creative, etc.), when it starts to kill ambition and progress, when it becomes so pervasive that strength turns into a stigma and something to shy away from.You don't have to. Everyone sins. Just make sure you repent your sins while on your deathbed or up on the cross and all is good. The Christians have a solution for everything. And good for them. The question must be: what should strong individuals do to protect themselves from this belief system? 'Cause it's not for them.

Why do you suggest to be Christian one must hate homosexuals? Jesus never even mentions it. Or are you poking fun at the tiny groups who say God hates fags? Jus' wondrin'

What are you doing when you say:


YOU are the one interpreting here Billybob.

How did I use the bible to justify my beliefs when I hold no beliefs grounded in the bible?

Try UNDERSTANDING what you are reading just a little bit better before posting repleies.

Briana Dawson

I never said I didn't pick and chose passages in the bible. I freely admit it, I pick and chose based on a variety of reasons. However I would like you to admit there is a hypocritical trend in quoting only the bad sections in order to accuse me of picking and choosing only the good ones.

what if I want pork chops? and can I come as a pillar of salt?

kevn... um.. didn't we just go over this? Seriously.

When did I say that Jesus said this? I'm a-lookin' but I'm not a-seein'.

And.. um.. tiny groups? You're serious with this? Tiny groups?

The President of the United States of America has suggested a change to the Constitution with regards to gays.

This is a tiny group?

What I'm doing is pointing out that it's hypocritical to quote from the Bible denouncing homosexuals when, on the same page and the page after, there are other laws that those same people refuse to follow.
Mixing fabrics. Seafood. Stoning adulterers. Locking away women on their period.

How 'bout you read the actual post and not the one you're writing in your head, 'k?

I didn't quote the bible to accuse you of anything, unless you categorize yourself as being either: wicked, depraved, or homosexual, and believe in god. For them I quoted Genesis.

Now, what parts of the bible did I quote to you?

Briana Dawson

You're confusing two different things.

does this post ring a bell?

Now as I have stated before, I am wicked and I know I am probably going to hell.