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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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07-15-2006 21:38
speach ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
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07-15-2006 21:47
What's "speach" mean? ~Ulrika~ Oh come now, lets not pick on people who have English as a second language. We're above that, aren't we? Particularly since that's a goof I make myself sometimes, for some reason. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Briana Dawson
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Join date: 23 Sep 2003
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07-15-2006 21:57
Just as a reminder. Israel is at war with Hezbollah, not Lebanon. k, thanks that is all. ![]() Just as a reminder. Hezbollah has seats in the Lebanese government and runs the streets in public in southern Lebanon, not their own independent country. K, thanks that is all. P.S. try reading before posting those wonderful pearls of wisdom. Briana Dawson _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
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07-15-2006 22:01
So, Magnum, I have a question.
Lets create a couple of hypothetical countries, shall we? Lets call them... Applestan and Orangania. Applestan has a group of people, lets call them the Sauce Party. They hate Orangania. The main ruling government of Applestan knows about the Sauce Party, knows they have weapons, and knows that they hate Orangania and would like nothing better than to attack them. But the government of Applestan does nothing about this. Eventually, the Sauce Party attacks Orangania. Now, are you saying, in this situation, honestly, that it is somehow Orangania's fault? That Applestan is blameless? Another question for you... And what does this have to do with defending the right of Lebanon to exist? You seem quite concerned with Lebanon's right to exist. But is it a fair statement to say that you do not support Israel's right to exist? After all, you have publicly stated that you are in opposition to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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07-15-2006 22:06
Particularly since that's a goof I make myself sometimes, for some reason. ![]() ~Ulrika~ _____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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Joy Honey
Not just another dumass
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07-15-2006 22:09
You'll love this. I have trouble spelling "atheist". I always want to spell it as "ie" instead of the correct "ei". ![]() ~Ulrika~ I'm sorry, I HAVE to quote this ![]() (btw, I keep misspelling atheist, too) _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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07-15-2006 22:10
So, Magnum, I have a question. Lets create a couple of hypothetical countries, shall we? Lets call them... Applestan and Orangania. Applestan has a group of people, lets call them the Sauce Party. They hate Orangania. The main ruling government of Applestan knows about the Sauce Party, knows they have weapons, and knows that they hate Orangania and would like nothing better than to attack them. But the government of Applestan does nothing about this. Eventually, the Sauce Party attacks Orangania. Now, are you saying, in this situation, honestly, that it is somehow Orangania's fault? That Applestan is blameless? I think Applestan likes the taste of the Sauce party. Briana Dawson _____________________
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Ashen Stygian
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07-15-2006 22:23
i like applesauce
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Nyoko Salome
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Join date: 18 Jul 2005
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07-15-2006 22:31
where is the u.s.? why, giving the finger to the u.n., of course.
United States vetoes UN ceasefire call http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/16/03655/7124 "naaaoooww, the stupid u.n. never did anythang; never did peace..." lol - like -PEACE- is ever a fucking headline!! the clinton admin via the u.n. seemed to have much of the middle east nicely quiet and at bay. 'wars meant to be so don't bother stopping them' my ass. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/7/16/02617/0589 i'd move to a different country, but 1) i can't afford it, and 2) i was fucking -BORN- here, and intend to die here in the country promised me via the founding fathers, not this non-american modern neocon freaking 'fuck anything that doesn't have a positive investment return' stacking of the cards they've dealt. they've dealt them. they've contributed by their all too obvious -LACK- of interest in diplomacy. remember the backwards-running clinton watches they used to sell on comedy central? 'nyuk nyuk!! they run backwards!! and if ya order now, you get a -hillary- backwards running watch!! nyuk nyuk!!' know why they don't sell backwards-running gwb watches? BECAUSE SMART PEOPLE DON'T BUY STUPID SHIT. _____________________
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:08
Hezbolla is the dominant Shia party in Lebanon. Not a gang in LA. They are also much better armed than any gang in LA. If you can't see the differences, you're not trying. No, they must not. Why do you think that? Do you think the only justification for military action is a formal declaration of war? So, by your logic, a country could continually attack another, and as long as they never declared war, the other country couldn't retaliate? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? I repeat: Until Lebanon as a whole does something about Hezbolla, the entire country will suffer for their actions. I wonder if you would follow Israel over a cliff. Lebanon did not Declare war on Israel. Israel needs to be condemned in the Security Council |
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:09
By the way, Magnum, I'm still waiting to hear what you would do with regards to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181. And I am waiting for your response to United Nations Resoloutions calling for Israel to pull back to the Pre-1947 borders. |
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:11
Gangs in L.A. don't have 20ft missiles to fire at their enemies in a bordering nation-state. Gangs in L.A. don't have public building headquarters. Gangs in L.A. don't hold 23 out of 128 state seats in the government. Hezbollah owns and publicly controls southern lebanon. Hezbollah is part of the lebanese government and because they are a part of that government the greater Lebanese government needs to control the minority party. Magnum. Do you just get full of emotion and just start blustering out things? You are not making sense here at all. You are not giving the government of Lebanon any liability or responisibility to control what happens within their territory. Do you know ANYTHING about Hamas and Hezbollah? Government supported terrorist organizations. The Lebanese government needs to gather their army and go to war with the criminal element within their borders and end this needless terrorism of Israeli borders that is resulting in Lebanese civillian deaths. Briana Dawson Who is blowing up the Airport in Lebanon? Who killed 14 children as they tried to flee the Captial of Lebanon? Israel thats who. I think I see the picture clearly. I know who the bad people are here. |
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:12
They shouldn't be picking fights with fucking Israel, then. Israel picked the fight with them. Lebanon wanted nothing to do with Israel. Israel is acting like the United States and attacking another nation with no reason whatsoever to do so. |
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:15
I wish you will stop insulting the President of the United States it is against the TOS. Is this the best you can argue with insults and blather? In any case the Govement of Lebanon has enpowered these criminal acts by doing nothing. Ah mexico better not even think of attacking the United States, it would be a very short conflict ![]() Insulting Dictator Boy George is not against the TOS, and I do it because everyone else is afraid of Bush's Plumbers. |
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Siro Mfume
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07-16-2006 01:16
And I am waiting for your response to United Nations Resoloutions calling for Israel to pull back to the Pre-1947 borders. The entire population of israel could be absorbed by the united states without much effort. It would probably save a lot of lives and headaches relocating israel anyway. |
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:17
I don't respond to personal attacks
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:18
The entire population of israel could be absorbed by the united states without much effort. It would probably save a lot of lives and headaches relocating israel anyway. Yes we can stick them in Texas. |
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Magnum Serpentine
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07-16-2006 01:19
So, Magnum, I have a question. Lets create a couple of hypothetical countries, shall we? Lets call them... Applestan and Orangania. Applestan has a group of people, lets call them the Sauce Party. They hate Orangania. The main ruling government of Applestan knows about the Sauce Party, knows they have weapons, and knows that they hate Orangania and would like nothing better than to attack them. But the government of Applestan does nothing about this. Eventually, the Sauce Party attacks Orangania. Now, are you saying, in this situation, honestly, that it is somehow Orangania's fault? That Applestan is blameless? Another question for you... You seem quite concerned with Lebanon's right to exist. But is it a fair statement to say that you do not support Israel's right to exist? After all, you have publicly stated that you are in opposition to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181. I support the resolutions that call for Israel to pull back to their Pre-1947 borders |
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Alazarin Mondrian
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07-16-2006 03:26
I'd be satisfied if Israel stuck to the 1947 borders. Just shows the hazards of using religious texts as real-estate title deeds.
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Michael Seraph
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07-16-2006 03:46
The entire population of israel could be absorbed by the united states without much effort. It would probably save a lot of lives and headaches relocating israel anyway. The entire Palestinian population could be absorbed by the Arab World without much effort. It would probably save a lot of lives and headaches relocating them anyway. Or does that seem wrong somehow? Can you say "ethnic cleansing"? |
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Raphael Rutherford
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07-16-2006 03:55
So, Magnum, I have a question. Lets create a couple of hypothetical countries, shall we? Lets call them... Applestan and Orangania. Applestan has a group of people, lets call them the Sauce Party. They hate Orangania. The main ruling government of Applestan knows about the Sauce Party, knows they have weapons, and knows that they hate Orangania and would like nothing better than to attack them. But the government of Applestan does nothing about this. Eventually, the Sauce Party attacks Orangania. Now, are you saying, in this situation, honestly, that it is somehow Orangania's fault? That Applestan is blameless? I haven't read this thread from the beginning, but that sounds exactly like the Israel / Lebanon conflict ! _____________________
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Alex Fitzsimmons
Resu Deretsiger
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07-16-2006 04:11
So, Magnum, I have a question. Lets create a couple of hypothetical countries, shall we? Lets call them... Applestan and Orangania. Applestan has a group of people, lets call them the Sauce Party. They hate Orangania. The main ruling government of Applestan knows about the Sauce Party, knows they have weapons, and knows that they hate Orangania and would like nothing better than to attack them. But the government of Applestan does nothing about this. Eventually, the Sauce Party attacks Orangania. Now, are you saying, in this situation, honestly, that it is somehow Orangania's fault? That Applestan is blameless? Why, that's an interesting analogy. While I normally disregard these arguments over what I consider to be relatively trivial issues in the larger scope of what's going on worldwide, I am very much attracted to this line of logic and where it leads. Bear with me. Let's have some fun. Suppose Applestan is actually the United States. Suppose the Sauce Party is any of our countless hate groups whom we both know exist and know are armed (bear in mind, we have laws that specifically protect the rights of groups like even the infamous KKK, and they are merely one example among many, many others). Now, help me out here, because I'll admit I can be a little slow. You're saying that if the Sauce Party, representing one of our many (frequently armed) groups of people who hate this or that thing or other group of people, gets into another country and misbehaves ... ... the entire United States is personally responsible and deserves to be attacked violently? Because it's just that that's what it sounded like you said. I mean, assuming we're treating everyone fairly and equally, of course. |
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Richie Waves
Predictable
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07-16-2006 04:19
If I may make an analogy... If a militia group known to be affiliated with the Mexican government came across the border with Texas, attacked some U.S. Army troops, and ran back into Mexico with two of them as captives... don't you think we'd be lobbing missiles into Mexico right now? I guess the flaw in this analogy is that the US isnt a disputed region. Mexico have no rightful claim to the US. _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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07-16-2006 04:20
Thats why we need a wall. And No, its not the government of Mexico that attacked its some crazied people who did And Lebanon has no connection to the madmen that are returning Israels unprovoked fire. Israel is attacking civilians deliberately, they just get caught in the crossfire so to speak. I haven't heard of any attacks on the Lebanese government, just the leaders of Hezzbollah. And the Israeli fire is hardly unprovoked. Hezbollah attacked first, kidnapped two soldiers, and is firing missles across the border. Something they have been doing for a while. Israel just finally got fed up. Even most of the other Arab countries agree that Hezbollah started this. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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07-16-2006 04:25
Why, that's an interesting analogy. While I normally disregard these arguments over what I consider to be relatively trivial issues in the larger scope of what's going on worldwide, I am very much attracted to this line of logic and where it leads. Bear with me. Let's have some fun. Suppose Applestan is actually the United States. Suppose the Sauce Party is any of our countless hate groups whom we both know exist and know are armed (bear in mind, we have laws that specifically protect the rights of groups like even the infamous KKK, and they are merely one example among many, many others). Now, help me out here, because I'll admit I can be a little slow. You're saying that if the Sauce Party, representing one of our many (frequently armed) groups of people who hate this or that thing or other group of people, gets into another country and misbehaves ... ... the entire United States is personally responsible and deserves to be attacked violently? Because it's just that that's what it sounded like you said. I mean, assuming we're treating everyone fairly and equally, of course. Amplifying data. The Sauce party has 15 seats in Senate or 95 seats in the House (compartive to let's say the 23 seats Hezbollah takes up in the 128 seat Lebanese government). AND, let's not forget this: The sauce party controls 1/2 a major state like: Texas, California, Arizona, Florida. AND they have 20ft rockets parked on the street that they can fire at will into our neighbors country. Yes, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAUCE PARTY. Do you even have a clue as to all the circumstances contributing to the events taking place in the Middle-east at the moment? Briana Dawson _____________________
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