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Where is the United States in all this Madness?

Billybob Goodliffe
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07-15-2006 15:32
From: Magnum Serpentine
Oh I know some gangs in Los Angeles declare war on the United States all the time. Why should I treat Hezbolla any different. And yes, some of the Gangs in Los Angeles are well armed.

The Bottom line is, a Criminal can declar anything he wants it will still get him no where


But the government of Lebanon did not declare war and so Israel must stop attacking Lebanon.

You do know the Japanese didn't declare war on the US until AFTER Pearl Harbor right? Like I told Ulrika, the next time you have a thought; let it go!
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-15-2006 15:34
By the way, Magnum, I'm still waiting to hear what you would do with regards to United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181.
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Michael Seraph
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07-15-2006 15:37
From: Magnum Serpentine
So if some criminals blew up a bank in Mexico, then crossed back into the United States, Mexico would be able to shell and rocket the town where the Criminals were staying

This is what you are saying.

The Lebanon Government has nothing to do with this. Thanks to Dictator George, Lebanon has no options, they did try a cease fire but dictator Boy George rejected it.



No that's not what he's saying. Hizbollah is a political party in the Lebanese Government. The UN Security Council has passed resolutions requiring Lebanon to disarm Hizbollah. So if your analogy was changed so those criminals were part of the Republican Party and the UN had demanded that the USA disarm Republican militias, then it would be more accurate. The Lebanese government has everything to do with this. How can George Bush create a cease fire? Oh, I know, you mean a unilateral cease fire by Israel, while allowing Hizbollah to continue to shell Israeli civilians. Yeah, that will work. Lebanon has called for a cease fire now, but has long refused to disarm Hizbollah. It's real simple here, no terrorist attacks conducted by Lebanese political parties means no response from Israel.
Billybob Goodliffe
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07-15-2006 16:09
From: Michael Seraph
No that's not what he's saying. Hizbollah is a political party in the Lebanese Government. The UN Security Council has passed resolutions requiring Lebanon to disarm Hizbollah. So if your analogy was changed so those criminals were part of the Republican Party and the UN had demanded that the USA disarm Republican militias, then it would be more accurate. The Lebanese government has everything to do with this. How can George Bush create a cease fire? Oh, I know, you mean a unilateral cease fire by Israel, while allowing Hizbollah to continue to shell Israeli civilians. Yeah, that will work. Lebanon has called for a cease fire now, but has long refused to disarm Hizbollah. It's real simple here, no terrorist attacks conducted by Lebanese political parties means no response from Israel.

Did micheal just defend one of Bush's actions? The world has stopped spinning! :D
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Briana Dawson
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07-15-2006 16:39
From: Magnum Serpentine
Oh I know some gangs in Los Angeles declare war on the United States all the time. Why should I treat Hezbolla any different. And yes, some of the Gangs in Los Angeles are well armed.

The Bottom line is, a Criminal can declar anything he wants it will still get him no where


But the government of Lebanon did not declare war and so Israel must stop attacking Lebanon.


Gangs in L.A. don't have 20ft missiles to fire at their enemies in a bordering nation-state.

Gangs in L.A. don't have public building headquarters.


Gangs in L.A. don't hold 23 out of 128 state seats in the government.

Hezbollah owns and publicly controls southern lebanon.

Hezbollah is part of the lebanese government and because they are a part of that government the greater Lebanese government needs to control the minority party.

Magnum. Do you just get full of emotion and just start blustering out things? You are not making sense here at all. You are not giving the government of Lebanon any liability or responisibility to control what happens within their territory.

Do you know ANYTHING about Hamas and Hezbollah? Government supported terrorist organizations.

The Lebanese government needs to gather their army and go to war with the criminal element within their borders and end this needless terrorism of Israeli borders that is resulting in Lebanese civillian deaths.

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Cindy Claveau
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07-15-2006 16:44
I've been a fervent reader of the Jerusalem Post for the last couple of weeks, since the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit in Gaza. Sure, it's an Israeli viewpoint but it is closer to the situation than American papers.

Innocent Israeli citizens are dying too, and Hezbollah drew first blood.

Analysis: Israel at War
From: someone
Israel has watched Hizbullah build up its offensive capability in the years since the security zone was dismantled - watched it, ever bolder, establishing its positions up against the border fence and saw it developing its missile capability - and chose not to act. That stance was misinterpreted as weakness.
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Lasha McGee
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07-15-2006 16:49
whatever about isereal, wont someone spare a thought for Lebonan, a country tryin to rebuild itself? or the many innocent families anhillated by this onslought? How can this action bring peace and trust to the middle east? how can this further the road to recnciliation? ohh isreral learned their lessons well from '39-'45
and btw i speak from a history perspective, not a religious one,
regilion has been blamed for far too many conflicts already
this action is only going to lead to more resentment, more murder on both sides and deepen the fire of hate
Reitsuki Kojima
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07-15-2006 16:55
From: Lasha McGee
whatever about isereal, wont someone spare a thought for Lebonan, a country tryin to rebuild itself?


They shouldn't be picking fights with fucking Israel, then.
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Lasha McGee
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07-15-2006 17:08
listen pal, thats all very well to say " oo thy shouldnt pick fights etc etc" but actions like this feed into the very power of hizbollah and the others, eg pissed off youngsters whove seen their family die, boy soldiers, it feeds thos terrorist orgs, im not sayin isreal lie down and take it , but more measured responses are needed, my family have lost ppl thru indepandace wars and civil wars and those memories run deep , imagine how it must be for those in the east , sure those who are at odds to peace should be dealt with, but its time the west and their affiliates sat down and asked questons as to why certain factions are at odds with us
Briana Dawson
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07-15-2006 17:18
From: Lasha McGee
whatever about isereal, wont someone spare a thought for Lebonan.


Yes, let's spare some thoughts about LebANON...

Why don't they control what happens within their borders through politics or military force?

Why is Hezbollah, LOCATED INSIDE LEBANON, attacking a militarily superior enemy, putting their parent country at risk for retaliation and possible invasion?

Why has the Lebanese government allowed a terrorist organization to have a seat in the government if they don't want them acting in the name of Lebanon?

Why do people keep ignoring that Lebanon has a very serious housekeeping (Terrorist organizations running around freely and controlling streets withing their borders) problem that they probably should have asked for help in eliminating?

The Lebanese government has acquiesced to all that has led up to the current (and past) attacks. Please give them some blame.

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Briana Dawson
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07-15-2006 17:26
From: Lasha McGee
listen pal, thats all very well to say " oo thy shouldnt pick fights etc etc" but actions like this feed into the very power of hizbollah and the others, eg pissed off youngsters whove seen their family die, boy soldiers, it feeds thos terrorist orgs, im not sayin isreal lie down and take it , but more measured responses are needed, my family have lost ppl thru indepandace wars and civil wars and those memories run deep , imagine how it must be for those in the east , sure those who are at odds to peace should be dealt with, but its time the west and their affiliates sat down and asked questons as to why certain factions are at odds with us


LOL. SO let's get this right. A government sponsored terrorist organization located inside the sovereign nation of Lebanon, kidnap solders from their neighboring country (Israel) and launch 20ft rockets into their neighboring country (Israel), killing civillians, and its the west that should be asking why? AND NOT the majority party in the Lebanese governement who control a state military that could have handled this problem long ago?

I thought that Hezbollah (Yea, those pissed off youngsters who park their 20ft rocket launching low-riding hydraulic activated trucks on the public streets of southern Lebanon) was the sworn RELIGIOUS enemy of Israel?? :rolleyes: Or that part doesn't mean anything to you?

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Barbarra Blair
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07-15-2006 17:30
Where the United States is in all this is stuck in Iraq.

But even if it weren't, the United States can't solve this problem.
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Ranma Tardis
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07-15-2006 17:30
From: Magnum Serpentine
So if some criminals blew up a bank in Mexico, then crossed back into the United States, Mexico would be able to shell and rocket the town where the Criminals were staying

This is what you are saying.

The Lebanon Government has nothing to do with this. Thanks to Dictator George, Lebanon has no options, they did try a cease fire but dictator Boy George rejected it.


I wish you will stop insulting the President of the United States it is against the TOS. Is this the best you can argue with insults and blather? In any case the Govement of Lebanon has enpowered these criminal acts by doing nothing.
Ah mexico better not even think of attacking the United States, it would be a very short conflict :)
Alexandre Rehnquist
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07-15-2006 17:32
Just as a reminder. Israel is at war with Hezbollah, not Lebanon. k, thanks that is all. :)
Sam Brewster
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07-15-2006 17:38
From: Magnum Serpentine
Israel is out of Control. They are attacking innocent civilians and the Government of Lebanon. Even Dictator George is worried that Israel may drive the democratically elected government in Lebanon out of existance.


And why in the world did Dictator George reject Lebanon's call for a cease fire?

Cease Fires are good,


Sigh.


Where is your rage when Paelstinian suicide bombers attack civilians. Women and children died. For years they targeted strictly civilian venues, hotels, restaurants, night clubs, etc. Where is the outrage there?

The Lebanese and Syrian governments support Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations.

Finally, Israel has had enough. They attacked the terrorists in Palestine and Lebanon only after the terrorists fired upon Israel first. They tried to take the road to peace, but the cross border shelling and killing has not stopped. They put up a wall to stop the suicide bombers, but the terrorists blew a hole in it and came across the border to attack Israeli troops.

Yes, cease fires are good, but only if BOTH sides abide by them.
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07-15-2006 17:45
Magnum pwnd x many :D
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-15-2006 18:03
From: Ranma Tardis
I wish you will stop insulting the President of the United States it is against the TOS.

No, it isn't.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-15-2006 18:06
From: Lasha McGee
listen pal, thats all very well to say " oo thy shouldnt pick fights etc etc" but actions like this feed into the very power of hizbollah and the others, eg pissed off youngsters whove seen their family die, boy soldiers, it feeds thos terrorist orgs, im not sayin isreal lie down and take it , but more measured responses are needed, my family have lost ppl thru indepandace wars and civil wars and those memories run deep , imagine how it must be for those in the east , sure those who are at odds to peace should be dealt with, but its time the west and their affiliates sat down and asked questons as to why certain factions are at odds with us


All of which is absolutely, 100% meaningless drivel. Hezbollah attacked Israel, Hezbollah is the dominant Shia political party in Lebanon, and Leb has done nothing about them. Lebanon is entirely at fault in this situation. Doesn't matter why they hate us in the slightest. Attack = response.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Desmond Shang
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07-15-2006 18:23
From: Magnum Serpentine
And what does this have to do with defending the right of Lebanon to exist?


See Rei's, Cindy's and Briana's posts.


The twentieth century taught the world a grim, horrific truth.

That it *is* possible to turn opponents into peaceful partners, through decisive military action.




Gee, just read the news, the government of Lebanon just got this idea that maybe they really will try to restrain the ruthless Hezbollah killers in the south.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/15/mideast/index.html

I wonder what prompted that notion?

I figure it must be remorse for all those civiliian Israeli deaths over the decades... I'm sure it built up, and today the guilt just kinda overwhelmed them. Or something.
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Einsman Schlegel
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07-15-2006 18:39
Woohoo. Well, We'll see the entire mideast embroiled in a bloody war here in a matter of days. North Korea is about to spring a leak, hmmm WW3 anyone?



LETS GET IT ON
Ranma Tardis
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07-15-2006 18:42
From: Reitsuki Kojima
No, it isn't.


How do you know he is not a resident? I think insulting speach is just rude, I could not call her names like that. She should not be able to do the same. Try saying something that shows your polite disagrement.
Reitsuki Kojima
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07-15-2006 18:48
From: Ranma Tardis
How do you know he is not a resident?


Doesn't matter if he is or isn't. It wasn't a targeted attack on a resident.

From: Ranma Tardis
I think insulting speach is just rude, I could not call her names like that. She should not be able to do the same. Try saying something that shows your polite disagrement.


Magnum is a He, I think.

Of course insulting speach is rude. That is not, however, in and of itself, a ToS violation.
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Surreal Farber
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07-15-2006 21:31
Magnum,

Educate yourself on the history, geography and cultures of the Middle East, then come back with an opinion based in something other than a vacuum.

Oh wait... We can get robots to take care of the Middle East.
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07-15-2006 21:35
From: Ranma Tardis
I wish you will stop insulting the President of the United States it is against the TOS.
Did you really just state that it's against the ToS to make fun of politicians on a forum? That's rich. :D

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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-15-2006 21:36
From: Surreal Farber
Magnum,
Aw. You changed your post. I liked the Darwin Awards one better. :D

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