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Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 14:19
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
I wasn't talking to you, "Nolan". You really think anything you've said on here is new?

The hippy hatred of Fox News is very funny to me. It really really pisses you guys off that you no longer have a lock on the news media, huh? You're obsessed with Fox News.


Who has a lock on the news media? Nolan? Liberals? That's laughable.

From: someone
Myth: The U.S. has a liberal media.

Fact: The media are being increasingly monopolized by parent corporations with pro-corporate or conservative agendas.

...Conservatives often promote the myth that the U.S. media are liberal. This myth serves several purposes: it raises public skepticism about liberal news stories, hides conservative bias when it appears, and goads the media to the right. GOP strategist William Kristol also reveals another reason: "I admit it: the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." (1)


http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm
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01-03-2006 14:20
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
I wasn't talking to you, "Nolan". You really think anything you've said on here is new?

The hippy hatred of Fox News is very funny to me. It really really pisses you guys off that you no longer have a lock on the news media, huh? You're obsessed with Fox News.

Naw, I think you are, and it shows. Do mom and dad make you pay part of the cable bill?

P.S. This is an open discussion, I'll reply to anything you post here, whenever it damn well pleases me.

P.P.S. Yeah, I know it's funny to you, everything's funny to you. You would probably laugh with your buddies and sock each other in the shoulder after gunning down a burglar. Calling everything "funny" that is in opposition to your own narrow-minded view of the world is a defense mechanism some folks employ when faced with logic in the face of their own ignorance.
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Dianne Mechanique
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01-03-2006 14:22
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Yup, call me names and don't bother to address any of the points in my post. Good job, typical lefty arguer.

Keep whining and not making sense. It's awesome.
Well no. :confused:
Seriously.

Your comments are so off-the-wall nutty, so extreme and so peppered with right wing catch phrases I honestly thought you were doing a "schtick." I still kinda do. It's hard to believe anyone could maintain that level of pure anger/hatred and ignorance for so long unless it was an act.

My humble apologies for misconstruing your position if thats the case (I still think this is an act though), but I was actually trying to compliment you.

I thought it more likely that you were someone with a really cool forum "act" than someone so crass that they are a living charicature of a "right wing buffoon."

I mean just the way you say right here about "not answering my points" when you didn't even make any. That's funny stuff. Then you say "typical leftie"?? *snicker* (granted Archie Bunker would have used "pinko";), but it's soooo similar.

You even used the "Hippies" word, ha-ha-ha! :D
Your pulling my leg on this aren't you?
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-03-2006 14:23
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Well, you can start at the second post of this thread. Holy crap, that was hard to find!
Dismissive. Rude. Punditesque. Troll.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-03-2006 14:24
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
The hippy hatred of Fox News is very funny to me. It really really pisses you guys off that you no longer have a lock on the news media, huh? You're obsessed with Fox News.
Teenagers trolling without supervision. :D
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-03-2006 14:24
From: Joy Honey
Who has a lock on the news media? Nolan? Liberals? That's laughable.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-liberalmedia.htm


It's laughable because "huppi.com" told you so? I'm not going to bother getting into this with you folks, but the reason that hippies are so obsessed with Fox News is because they cannot stand that there is now competition against the raging hippies of CNN etc.
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01-03-2006 14:25
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Dismissive. Rude. Punditesque. Troll.


These are personal attacks. See how you are obsessed with me? You know why you're obsessed? Because you feel a great desire to shut me and the ideas that I've brought down. You know, deep down, that your ideas about the world and how it works are wrong. But you keep believing in them because to accept that you're so very wrong about such important things would be a very difficult thing to accept. So you follow me around and use personal attacks on me. Grow up, dude.
Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 14:29
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Seriously, if I am making so many personal attacks, you'd think it would be really easy for you to find an example of it where I wasn't making a fairly obvious joke. I guess I shouldn't have made that joke, I didn't realize this was such a tremendously sensitive message board. But by the way you act like the only thing I do is use personal attacks, you really shouldn't have any problem finding good examples of that.


No it isn't hard to do that at all. I am done trying to be helpful to you. You want people to take you seriously, but you nitpick someone being helpful?

Let's see, you've called people dippy, moron, over-sensitive(which you appear to be yourself), whiny, fool, stupid, weiner teaser (though I think that one's a joke), I'm sure there are more, you've been very busy since starting your illustrious career as a broken record.
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01-03-2006 14:34
From: Joy Honey
No it isn't hard to do that at all. I am done trying to be helpful to you. You want people to take you seriously, but you nitpick someone being helpful?

Let's see, you've called people dippy, moron, over-sensitive(which you appear to be yourself), whiny, fool, stupid, weiner teaser (though I think that one's a joke), I'm sure there are more, you've been very busy since starting your illustrious career as a broken record.



I'm not nitpicking, I just wanted to see an example of my many many personal attacks that weren't justified. You act like every post I make is a personal attack, then you post an example that was me clearly making a joke. Pointing that out isn't nitpicking.

I called people those names before I found out that this is a weird forum where you're only allowed to call people certain specific names. Again, I have been on the internet for a very long time, and I can tell pretty quickly when someone isn't close to being on the same page as me. I like having those people despise me. I dislike them very much.
Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 14:35
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
It's laughable because "huppi.com" told you so? I'm not going to bother getting into this with you folks, but the reason that hippies are so obsessed with Fox News is because they cannot stand that there is now competition against the raging hippies of CNN etc.


CNN is run by raging hippies? Someone alert Lou Dobbs! I bet you didn't know he's a conservative, did you?

I'm sure I can find many other sources that debunk the myth of liberal media, and you can find just as many that support that myth.
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Blueman Steele
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01-03-2006 14:39
From: Taco Rubio
Is there like a pill i could take to get such a simple worldview?



is there a pill form of delusion???

as far as how to wage new wars.... political pressure and sanctions work best, unless you are dealing with an irrational country.

If so.. the only answer is to nuke nuke nuke till they glow.

God bless america.
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01-03-2006 14:40
From: Joy Honey
CNN is run by raging hippies? Someone alert Lou Dobbs! I bet you didn't know he's a conservative, did you?

I'm sure I can find many other sources that debunk the myth of liberal media, and you can find just as many that support that myth.



Lou Dobbs runs CNN now? This guy was running CNN for awhile, until his tremendous leftiness became obvious to everyone: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6490-2005Feb7.html
Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 14:43
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Lou Dobbs runs CNN now? This guy was running CNN for awhile, until his tremendous leftiness became obvious to everyone: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6490-2005Feb7.html


It's very apparent how many things do go over your head. Why would a conservative go to work for "raging hippies"?
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01-03-2006 14:50
From: Joy Honey
It's very apparent how many things do go over your head. Why would a conservative go to work for "raging hippies"?



Robert Novak was at CNN until recently, too. A job is a job, I'm sure a conservative would like to get on a lefty channel like CNN to try to help educate the people that only watch that channel. They also pay him a lot of money, which is the main reason he works there.
Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 14:53
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Robert Novak was at CNN until recently, too. A job is a job, I'm sure a conservative would like to get on a lefty channel like CNN to try to help educate the people that only watch that channel. They also pay him a lot of money, which is the main reason he works there.


Is that kind of like the government paying people to pretend to be reporters so they can push the government's agenda, all the while pretending it's actual news? *








*Disclaimer: lest I be pegged as a raging hippie, this does apply to any government, not just GWB's administration.
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01-03-2006 14:55
From: Joy Honey
Is that kind of like the government paying people to pretend to be reporters so they can push the government's agenda, all the while pretending it's actual news?



What are you talking about? Bush paid people to pretend to be reporters? Oh man, are you talking about Jeff Ganon?!
Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 14:56
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
What are you talking about? Bush paid people to pretend to be reporters? Oh man, are you talking about Jeff Ganon?!


Didn't you read my disclaimer? And, no I'm not talking about Jeff Gannon. I'd actually forgotten all about him :p
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Tikki Kerensky
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01-03-2006 14:57
Janno, having opinions, even strong one is not a bad thing. Completely and utterly dismissing everyone else's opinions because they aren't yours, bad. That's very bad. It's typically (but not only) found in extreme right wingers. There are extreme lefties who are just as bad. Meanwhile, those of us closer to middle are like, wtf dudes. If you're going to disagree with someone, at least have the courtesy to say why. 'It's hippy' or 'it's facist' (depending on your wing) just isn't going to cut it, it only proves you to have a thick, intolerent skull. It does not prove you're right. Yes, I'm seeing this on BOTH sides of this discussion!

Now. If Stank is an act, it's a very good one. If he's expressing his true opinions, let him. I just wish there was more than 'typical lefty'. :D

By the way, the left-wing reactions here are amusing me. Reminds me of the ZOMGSFURSECUTION crowd. So easy to rile. :D




And for the record, I have left and right wing views of varying intensity. Niether of which I'm trying to push here. Partially because I'm in that northern neighbour country, not m' place to speak on your policies unless they're directly affecting me.
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01-03-2006 14:58
From: Joy Honey
Didn't you read my disclaimer? And, no I'm not talking about Jeff Gannon. I'd actually forgotten all about him :p



Well, you have to be referring to some sort of conservative government person that paid someone to pretend to be a reporter, otherwise your post isn't relevant to what we were discussing in any way.
Joy Honey
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01-03-2006 15:03
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Well, you have to be referring to some sort of conservative government person that paid someone to pretend to be a reporter, otherwise your post isn't relevant to what we were discussing in any way.


OK how about No Child Left Behind? I was misremembering, Armstrong Williams is a columnist. My apologies.

But the money was good.
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Dianne Mechanique
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01-03-2006 15:28
From: Tikki Kerensky
... Now. If Stank is an act, it's a very good one. If he's expressing his true opinions, let him. I just wish there was more than 'typical lefty'. ....
I'm a bit confused by this response or who your talking to, but it followed my post and referred to it a bit so I will reply.

A part of the point here is that the forums are more for debate than just expressing opinion, especially when the topics are political. Anyone can shout and shout and follow up to every post with their "opinions," but that's not what most people want to hear and doesn't do much but hurt one's ears and eyes.

I still think Stank is an act (if I didn't then my last post could be construed as a personal attack and that is against the TOS of course). The voice is very similar to the conservative charicatures that Nolan so excelently posted in his replies like Bill O'Rielly and Rush Limbaugh. It's kind of comical once or twice but it gets old really fast.

I think perhaps you are more conservative than you belive given your own comments about how the "lefties" are reacting, but to me they are simply being driven to distraction by the sheer volume of posts by Stank. I guess he/she might follow up my post later but as far as I can see my last one is the only single post on the thread that Stank *didn't* respond to. If there is anything that this makes clear, it is that Stank has a severe need to have the last word on everything and this is probably a better insight into the meaning behind his/her posts than anything else.

For him/her it doesn't seem to be about the facts or the debate at all but more about the shouting, about dogmatic "announcements," and having the last word. As others have already implied, this is the argumentative tactic of an immature mind, perhaps a teenager or a very uneducated adult with a compulsive disorder.

Because this analyis makes Stank out to be a horrible person just one shade off of being a pathological rage-aholic, I believe that it has to be worng. That he/she is in fact just a "character" or an act.

The only other possibility to my mind is that Rush Limbaugh actually plays Second Life.
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01-03-2006 15:41
From: Dianne Mechanique
I think perhaps you are more conservative than you belive given your own comments about how the "lefties" are reacting, but to me they are simply being driven to distraction by the sheer volume of posts by Stank.


I'm not, honestly. I'm just amused by a reaction I've seen incited before. His sheer volume of posts is directly in reaction to the volume directed against him. He starts something, everyone else rushes to finish it. :D
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01-03-2006 15:42
From: Stankleberry Sullivan
Sure it is. Which conduct of mine is offending your sensitive feelings?

The fact that all your posts in this thread debating your conservatism and whther you are a troll, and a plethora of other things that have nothing to do with this topic. You come in and strat ranting your view about how the US is not losing the war in Iraq, but you utterly do not respond to the topic. And then rather than just not participating in the discussion you defend yourself or attack others in post after tedious post that are identical to the ones you have put up in every other thread. Which suggest to me that you don't truly want to respond to the topic but want to engage in some pseudo-politcal mazsturbation to see if you can be the center of attention.

Now I get the desire to always be right, and be the center of attention. I started my own thread so I can laways be right. You can do the same thing too. If you want to insult people, or be insulted, why not start a thread called "Argue with Stankleberry about nothing for no reason."

But read the posts in this thread ans see what portions of them realte to the topic, and what portion relate to you. You have hijacked the thread in this way, and that is offending my sensitive feelings. If you want to debate the topic, fine, otherwise don't contribute.

As the old saying goes: lead , follow, or get out of the way.
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01-03-2006 15:47
From: Dianne Mechanique
For him/her it doesn't seem to be about the facts or the debate at all but more about the shouting, about dogmatic "announcements," and having the last word. As others have already implied, this is the argumentative tactic of an immature mind, perhaps a teenager or a very uneducated adult with a compulsive disorder.

Because this analyis makes Stank out to be a horrible person just one shade off of being a pathological rage-aholic, I believe that it has to be worng. That he/she is in fact just a "character" or an act.



What I'm actually doing and what you imagine I'm doing are two very different things. You have a very big problem with Republicans, so you hate me just because of the things I believe in. That colors what you see when you read my posts.

The only people that whine about other people "wanting the last word" are people who themselves are obsessed like children with having the last word.

This isn't an act, I believe everything I've said on here. The reason you find that hard to believe is that you read all kinds of extra things in my posts that aren't there, because you hate anyone that believes the things that I do.

Anyone that thinks that "the Republicans are the real enemy" is my enemy.
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01-03-2006 15:49
From: Tikki Kerensky
I'm not, honestly. I'm just amused by a reaction I've seen incited before. His sheer volume of posts is directly in reaction to the volume directed against him. He starts something, everyone else rushes to finish it. :D



I wouldn't say that I'm starting anything, all of my posts on here have been responses to other peoples' posts. I honestly am not trying to reply in a way that will incite hippies, hippies just get incited over anything a non-hippy ever says about the world or politics.
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