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Aliasi Stonebender
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06-13-2006 19:36
From: Kiamat Dusk
I read that one. And I'll pose to you, and everyone else in this forum the same question Ann brings up.

Was Joe McCarthy right about the Communist spies in the US government?

-Kiamat Dusk

(hint: yes)


He was right about there being Communist spies, a piercing truth roughly as insightful as the observation that, today, at THIS VERY MOMENT, there's people who dislike the United States in the Middle East.

His attempt to actually root out any such spies was a sound failure, a mere witchhunt.
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06-13-2006 19:38
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My knight in shining armor :D



Conservative women are hot AND they shave and wear deodorant! :D

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Kiamat Dusk
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06-13-2006 19:42
From: Aliasi Stonebender
He was right about there being Communist spies, a piercing truth roughly as insightful as the observation that, today, at THIS VERY MOMENT, there's people who dislike the United States in the Middle East.

His attempt to actually root out any such spies was a sound failure, a mere witchhunt.



Yes, thanks to the stonewalling of Democrats in Congress not to mention the Democrat President and the liberal media who never met a traitor they didn't love.

McCarthy has been vindicated a hundred times over since the declassification of the VENONA project.

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Aliasi Stonebender
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06-13-2006 19:46
From: Aurael Neurocam


We're no longer raising our kids with any sense of morality. I'm not talking about gay marriage or abortion, either: I'm talking about even more fundamental things like respecting other people. Is it because we're letting Nickelodian and MTV raise them for us?


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Kiamat Dusk
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06-13-2006 19:51
From: Juro Kothari
I thought that Kiamat was looking for real conversation, not trolling. Duly noted. :rolleyes:


Ok, lemme break this down for you.


When Groucho said:
From: Groucho Mandelbrot
If you love America so much why do you want it to be just like Europe? You clearly don't understand the Democratic platform.

..he was mocking me. He wasn't seriously saying you wanted to make the USA into Europe...though you clearly do since they allow same sex marriage over there. :D


But when you said:
From: Juro Kothari
I thought that Kiamat was looking for real conversation, not trolling. Duly noted. :rolleyes:

...you totally hurt my feelings. I thought you knew me better than that. :(

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06-13-2006 19:54
From: Kiamat Dusk
McCarthy has been vindicated a hundred times over since the declassification of the VENONA project.

-Kiamat Dusk


BWAH HA HA HAAAAAAAAA!

Thank you for that laugh... best of the night.

You crack me up.

McCarthy. Vindicated. HAAAAA ha haaaa...

Milk actually shot out of my nose.

Awesome!
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06-13-2006 19:57
From: Kiamat Dusk
Yes, thanks to the stonewalling of Democrats in Congress not to mention the Democrat President and the liberal media who never met a traitor they didn't love.

McCarthy has been vindicated a hundred times over since the declassification of the VENONA project.

-Kiamat Dusk



He damn near caught that dirty commie Lucille Ball. :rolleyes:
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06-13-2006 19:57
From: Kendra Bancroft
I believe Democrats wish to turn the USA back into the USA. Republicans wish to turn it into Haliburton.



And Socialists want to turn it into Korth Korea.

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Kiamat Dusk
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06-13-2006 19:58
From: Kendra Bancroft
He damn near caught that dirty commie Lucille Ball. :rolleyes:



Of course Lucy was a commie! Look at all the signs! RED hair!? Married to a *Cuban*? It's so obvious!

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Crissaegrim Clutterbuck
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06-13-2006 20:12
For the record, Condoleeza Rice detests Ann Coulter, as does most of the Republican leadership. Coulter has her uses - much the same way that a rabid dog has its role in a political election for the local dog-catcher - so she's tolerated, but only under certain circumstances and in certain company. She's rabble-rouser to the "great unwashed" - a panderer of cheap drama and a force that motivates that most moronic part of conservative America to spend their votes for conservatives. A tool. And that's how the Republican leadership perceives her.

Early American leaders like Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, and Madison feared the emergence of demagogues like Coulter, and the corrosive effects their slavish, ignorant followers would have on democratic institutions.
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06-13-2006 20:22
From: Kiamat Dusk
McCarthy has been vindicated a hundred times over since the declassification of the VENONA project.


It's getting a little tiresome to have to explain yet again that in the United States, McCarthyism did more damage to the constitution and political culture than the American Communist Party ever did. Or the U.S.S.R., for that matter.

And Venona vindicates this point of view, as well.
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06-13-2006 20:34
From: Kiamat Dusk
And Socialists want to turn it into Korth Korea.

-Kiamat Dusk



I like America fine. Thank you very much. I just think Republicans are asshats for trying to undo FDR's presidency.
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06-13-2006 20:39
From: Crissaegrim Clutterbuck
For the record, Condoleeza Rice detests Ann Coulter, as does most of the Republican leadership. Coulter has her uses - much the same way that a rabid dog has its role in a political election for the local dog-catcher - so she's tolerated, but only under certain circumstances and in certain company. She's rabble-rouser to the "great unwashed" - a panderer of cheap drama and a force that motivates that most moronic part of conservative America to spend their votes for conservatives. A tool. And that's how the Republican leadership perceives her.

Early American leaders like Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, and Madison feared the emergence of demagogues like Coulter, and the corrosive effects their slavish, ignorant followers would have on democratic institutions.



And where were you for the Al Gore, Micheal Moore, and Howard Dean discussions? Or don't they count?

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David Valentino
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06-13-2006 20:58
From: Kiamat Dusk
Are you trying to tell me that those weren't the funny quotes? A lot of those quotes are hyperbole for the sake of laughter. Yes, there is a basis in her own feelings there, but she takes it to an extreme to make a point and make it funny. John Stewart does this 5x a week.


If you think being vicious and heartless and souless is funny, then yes they are very funny. Ha. Ha. Nothing even remotely like Jon Stewart, who, btw, is a politcal comedian, unlike Ann Coulter, who has stood behind her statements as serious views many times.

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Oh, and to show just how incredibly oversensitive Liberals can be.

"With their infernal racial set-asides, racial quotas, and race norming, liberals share many of the Klan's premises. The Klan sees the world in terms of race and ethnicity. So do liberals! Indeed, liberals and white supremacists are the only people left in America who are neurotically obsessed with race. Conservatives champion a color-blind society."

-This is so true. Of course there will always be exceptions, but on the whole, this is true. We need affirmative action to help minorities because they can't get jobs on their own. We need welfare because the poor minorities can't get by on their own. We need bilingual education because the hispanics can't learn english. Oh, and don't get me started on the arguments after we invaded Iraq that "maybe the Iraqis just aren't ready for democracy." What!?


:eek:

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"Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."

-You don't have to look very far into these forums to see the veracity of this statement, either. Look at how anyone who dares condemn abortion is treated. Look how many times people who stand up for our country are shouted down as "jingoists". Oh, and do a search and see how many hits you get for "xian".
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Hating the present corrupt, dishonest, corporate-pawn administration does in no way equate to hating the United States. A fact that you constantly overlook. Hating Bush and cronies actually demonstrates a great love for this country and dismay at how it's being abused.

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"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."

-But Kendra gets away with calling for the President's execution with nary a peep from you.

The truth hurts, she's just twisting the knife.

You guys need to learn to lighten up. Sheesh-we're supposed to be the ones with the stick up our ass.

-Kiamat Dusk


You read her quotes and think they are fun and games, and that we need to lighten up. Man Kiamat, you need to do some soul searching. I am just puzzled how anyone, and I mean ANYONE, could concievably think she is in anyway a good person, let alone honest or right.
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06-13-2006 21:05
From: Kiamat Dusk
Conservatives champion a color-blind society.


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Crissaegrim Clutterbuck
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06-13-2006 22:40
From: Kiamat Dusk
And where were you for the Al Gore, Micheal Moore, and Howard Dean discussions? Or don't they count?

-Kiamat Dusk


Pithy and pointless. Back at ya -

Comedy. Satire. Liberal silliness. Not demagoguery. Not dangerous. And the Republican leadership still can't stand her. ;)
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06-13-2006 23:29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

Specifically:

"She is well-known for her distinct speaking and writing style, which is often intentionally aggressive and controversial, intended to provoke a hostile response and garner attention. Her consistent target is what she views as "liberals" as a group, whom she states all hate the United States,"

(and)

"Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do." — (from Slander, pp. 5–6; published June 2002)

Wow... a PROFESSIONAL troll.

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06-14-2006 01:34
From: Kiamat Dusk
So you dub Ann Coulter a hatemonger, accuse her of lying, and have no facts to back it up. Oh, and then you posit that Joe McCarthy wasn't right when history, buried as it may be, proves otherwise.

You guys are really coming through for me tonight.

-Kiamat Dusk



Oooh, buried history!

Next you'll be telling us about the Illuminati you've met.
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06-14-2006 04:41
hell i'm republican and can't stand her, SHE WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP! her and Rush Limbaugh, who hasn't made a decent point since childhood. Its people like them that give us a bad name. Now don't get me wrong, she does make some good points, but then she carries them out as far and as outrageous as she can, she does have to sell books remember. If she had just said "the media is largely Democratic and puts a slant on alot of things." it would have been a decent point and true to a certain extent. (don't believe me, watch the news shows during Presidential elections or controversial legislation debate) its when she continues it and starts attacking "liberals" that i lose interest, she just turns into a bobble head doll.
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06-14-2006 04:46
I have to agree here Ann Coulter, Michal Moore, Rush Limbaugh and all the other demagauges out there make me sick. Discourse is dead.
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06-14-2006 05:56
this is a troll post karsen/kaymen.. or w/e your name is.. (you see what I did there? hu? ...)
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06-14-2006 06:14
It's people like Coulter that make me glad I'm not American, that I don't live there and that I never want to go there. May she fester in her poisonous bile until it rots what little there is left of her soul.
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06-14-2006 07:18
From: Kiamat Dusk


McCarthy has been vindicated a hundred times over since the declassification of the VENONA project.

-Kiamat Dusk


The fact that there was Soviet espionage in the US does not vindicate McCarthy. His methods and the ensuing witch hunts had nothing to do with any legitimate method of counter intelligence.
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06-14-2006 07:20
From: Aliasi Stonebender
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