Damn you and your "speaking from the heart" tactics! It is just part of your agenda to enslave me.
FORCED MIDNIGHT!!!
at last, you and Chip will be my slaves.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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03-21-2006 07:39
FORCED MIDNIGHT!!! at last, you and Chip will be my slaves. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-21-2006 07:39
NY scene lame right now? That's an understatement. It says nothing about my "tactics" as I don't use "tactics". I speak from my heart --whether I misinterpret what you're saying or not has nothing to with any agenda you seem to think I might have. Then why no apology for accusing me of hate crimes toward Gorean lifestylers and calling the lot of them rapists when you discovered that you were incorrect in your analysis of my statement? -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 07:41
Then why no apology for accusing me of hate crimes toward Gorean lifestylers and calling the lot of them rapists when you discovered that you were incorrect in your analysis of my statement? -Kiamat Dusk Because I speak from my heart, and my heart would rather not apologize to you. I've already admitted to misinterpreting your statement, I can't help if that's not enough for you. _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
Protest Warrior
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03-21-2006 07:42
FORCED MIDNIGHT!!! at last, you and Chip will by slaves. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Do you mean "bi" slaves?  If it does, I'm using my "safeword" the minute he starts spewing RW talking-points. Safeword? Safeword? If you and I end up in the same dungeon the first toy coming out of the bag is a ball gag.  Actually, it's all good since I don't engage in scening or play. But I know this guy who is really good with the single tail and I would pay gooooood money to introduce the two of you. -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 07:45
Do you mean "bi" slaves? typo: corrected to "be my slaves" -- and if they're going to be with me --"bi" is pretty much a given. Safeword? Safeword? If you and I end up in the same dungeon the first toy coming out of the bag is a ball gag. You're not the first to say that _____________________
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Surreal Farber
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03-21-2006 07:49
IF you read the books, and IF Goreans are trying to mimic them fully... then yes, rape is enshrined in the lifestyle. Mind you, in the Gor viewpoint it does seem that no woman is -ever- unwilling, and they 'want' to be raped. But those who RP Goreans in SL don't seem to be interested in anything non-consentual... BUT... technically, that's what the books describe. You forgot to mention that they are painful to read they are so badly written. I couldn't force myself past book 4. _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-21-2006 07:53
You forgot to mention that they are painful to read they are so badly written. I couldn't force myself past book 4. I'm stunned you got that far!  I couldn't get through an entire chapter. I have total respect for Goreans SL and RL and have defended them in many an anti-Gorean thread in these forums. But those books....ugh. I did my Gorean study on the web with the crib notes.-Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Kiari LeFay
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03-21-2006 08:18
I'm sure it helps if you mock them while reading them, preferably out loud... I haven't read the series... I attempted to read the first book, and then my fingers started itching for a red pen to correct it... I too used crib notes to learn about the rest.
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Kiamat Dusk
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03-21-2006 08:28
I'm sure it helps if you mock them while reading them, preferably out loud... I haven't read the series... I attempted to read the first book, and then my fingers started itching for a red pen to correct it... I too used crib notes to learn about the rest. It was like having teeth pulled without pain meds... The plot holes... the grammar problems... the poorly constructed dialogue... the flat character development... *shudders* They're an editor's/writer's nightmare.... Speaking as a writer...yes...yes, they are. -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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Lucifer Baphomet
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03-21-2006 10:50
Ahhhh! I see it now!  Wouldn't trojan point one be "L1" which is directly opposite the earth in the diagram? I read one of the Gor books at the behest of some friends years ago, and I thought that was the explanation given for why we couldn't see Gor from Earth. I may be mistaken, that was 1985 and my brain was beset by chemicals, so reading a really bad pulp fiction book wasn't the only issue I had... Gor is at L1, Dakota is at L5 _____________________
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Magnum Serpentine
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03-21-2006 12:14
Just a gentle reminder please to keep the thread on-topic, hopefully some productive discussion will come out of this.  Is this the best you can do?????? |
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Magnum Serpentine
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03-21-2006 12:15
This thread was about boycotting South Dakota. But Fundamentalist have derailed it into a bashing of a life style
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Kiari LeFay
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03-21-2006 12:43
Oooo... am I included as a Fundamentalist?
I've never been called -that- before. Conversations are funny things... the trail off in ways you can never expect, and really can't control either. |
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Kiamat Dusk
Protest Warrior
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03-21-2006 12:53
Tourism: To contact the offices of various South Dakota tourist attractions and inform them that you will not be visiting South Dakota as long as this ban is on the table, including if it is passed and signed into law: Alliance of Tribal Tourism Advocates Daphne Richards-Cook, Executive Director [email]dcook.atta@midconetwork.com[/email] Erin Janis, Financial Manager [email]ejanis.atta@midconetwork.com[/email] 522 7th Street, Suite 210 Rapid City, SD 57701 (605) 341-2378, phone (605) 341-2280, fax www.attatribal.com Black Hills, Badlands & Lakes Association [email]info@blackhillsbadlands.com[/email] 1851 Discovery Circle Rapid City, SD 57701 (605) 355-3600, phone www.blackhillsbadlands.com Glacial Lakes & Prairies Tourism Association [email]tournesd@dailypost.com[/email] PO Box 244 1200 33rd Street SE Watertown, SD 57201-0244 800-244-8860, phone www.sdglaciallakes.com Great Lakes of South Dakota Association PO Box 786 210 East Capitol Avenue Pierre, SD 57501 888-386-4617, phone www.sdgreatlakes.org Southeast South Dakota Tourism 800 Mariner Lane, Suite 104 Yankton, SD 57078 888-353-7382, phone (605) 665-8776, fax www.southeastsouthdakota.com Travel Industry Association of America 1100 New York Ave., NW Suite 450 Washington, DC 20005-3934 (202) 408-8422, phone (202) 408-1255, fax www.tia.org www.seeamerica.org Deer Mountain Ski Area PO Box 622Deadwood, SD 57732 888-410-3337, phone www.skideermountain.com Department of Game, Fish and Parks [email]ParkInfo@state.sd.us[/email] 523 East Capitol Avenue Pierre, SD 57501-3182 Hunting & Fishing: (605) 773-3485, phone Parks: (605) 773-3391, phone www.sdgfp.info/parks/recreation Great Bear Ski Area Contact Form 5901 East Rice Street Sioux Falls, SD 57103 (605) 367-4309, phone www.greatbearpark.com South Dakota Tourism (see also "State Agencies" Sno Wats: 1-800-445-3474 1-800-S-DAKOTA (1-800-732-5682) www.TravelSD.com Terry Peak Ski Area PO Box 774 Lead, SD 57754 (605) 584-2165, phone Snow Conditions: 1-800-456-0524 www.terrypeak.com Thanks, Kendra! Those links showed me what an awesome place SD really is! I'm already planning my vacation! Also, I called the Governor's office for information on how to donate to the Life Protection Fund! That's the legal fund to help SD fight against law suits from Planned Parenthood. For anyone else who'd like to help SD send your checks to: Bureau of Administration c/o 500 East Capitol Ave Pierre, SD 57501-5070 Make the checks out to: State of South Dakota re: Life Protection Sub Fund -Kiamat Dusk ...just doing his part... _____________________
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Toni Bentham
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03-21-2006 12:58
For anyone who'd like to take their anti-choice cause all the way, there's a whole lot of stuff in the Bill of Rights for you to take a whack at. Why not challenge, like, free speech or freedom of religion? Those are waaaay overrated. And who really needs to petition the government for redress of grievances? I mean honestly.
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-21-2006 13:21
This thread was about boycotting South Dakota. But Fundamentalist have derailed it into a bashing of a life style I ask the Moderators to close this thread, since it is one started by me. You don't get to control the direction that a thread takes or determine that it should be closed. _____________________
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Sally Rosebud
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03-21-2006 13:22
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Eboni Khan
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03-21-2006 13:23
For anyone who'd like to take their anti-choice cause all the way, there's a whole lot of stuff in the Bill of Rights for you to take a whack at. Why not challenge, like, free speech or freedom of religion? Those are waaaay overrated. And who really needs to petition the government for redress of grievances? I mean honestly. The Patriot act is taking care of those. We have to keep our eye on the prize and go for full oppression. Seriously if you think the right to murder is a right worth protecting, rock on with ya bad self. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-21-2006 13:23
You don't get to control the direction that a thread takes or determine that it should be closed. especially considering 15 pages is well into the third trimester _____________________
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Sally Rosebud
the girl next door
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03-21-2006 13:25
especially considering 15 pages is well into the third trimester ABORT, ABORT, ABORT!!! _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-21-2006 13:27
For anyone who'd like to take their anti-choice cause all the way, there's a whole lot of stuff in the Bill of Rights for you to take a whack at. Why not challenge, like, free speech or freedom of religion? Those are waaaay overrated. And who really needs to petition the government for redress of grievances? I mean honestly. I am going to respond to this, as I am not pro-choice. I am realistic in that I do recognize women will continue to seek out abortions and would rather have them done safely so I would not want them to be taken away completely, though I would like to see them become a lot more rare than they are now. However, I don't think anything in our Constitution or Bill of Rights specifically covers aborting the life of an unborn child. Using the privacy of the woman as the basis is a major interpretative stretch. You can make light of it with sarcasm all you want, but those who are opposed to abortion are not trying to curtail any "rights" given in the Constitution - they are trying to stop what they view to be the murder of a child, something no where expressly granted in our Constitution. Freedom of speech is - freedom of religion is. These are very clear cut concepts. The right to privacy is quite vague, and its association with "the right to abort an unborn child" is quite tenuous at best. _____________________
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Toni Bentham
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03-21-2006 13:51
You can make light of it with sarcasm all you want, I'm not making light of it at all. I don't trust those who want to tell ME what to do with MY body, and think if they had their way all my rights would be suspended pretty damn soon. Look at the Patriot Act. "First they came for the Communists, and I didn't say anything, because I wasn't a Communist......." but those who are opposed to abortion are not trying to curtail any "rights" given in the Constitution - they are trying to stop what they view to be the murder of a child, something no where expressly granted in our Constitution. Freedom of speech is - freedom of religion is. These are very clear cut concepts. The right to privacy is quite vague, and its association with "the right to abort an unborn child" is quite tenuous at best. Well, the Supreme Court, led by Justice Blackmun, disagreed with you waaaaay back in 1973, Cristiano. I quote: The Constitution does not explicitly mention any right of privacy. In a line of decisions, however, the Court has recognized that a right of personal privacy, or a guarantee of certain areas or zones of privacy, does exist under the Constitution. In varying contexts, the Court or individual Justices have, indeed, found at least the roots of that right in the First Amendment, in the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, in the penumbras of the Bill of Rights, in the Ninth Amendment, or in the concept of liberty guaranteed by the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment. These decisions make it clear that only personal rights that can be deemed "fundamental" or "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty," are included in this guarantee of personal privacy. They also make it clear that the right has some extension to activities relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, and child rearing and education. This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy. The detriment that the State would impose upon the pregnant woman by denying this choice altogether is apparent. There's more to the Constitution, Cristiano, than what is said there in black and white. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
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03-21-2006 14:10
There's more to the Constitution, Cristiano, than what is said there in black and white. Clearly, I understand that - I just still think that it was quite a leap in 1973 to take that grey area all the way to cover aborting unborn children. You disagree, and that is fine, and the courts have upheld it. However, that part of the Constitution is a very grey area that will continue to be subject to interpretation until something more precise is specifically amended, thus it will remain under fire. _____________________
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03-21-2006 14:32
Clearly, I understand that - I just still think that it was quite a leap in 1973 to take that grey area all the way to cover aborting unborn children. It wasn't clear to me. I think those who oppose abortion ARE trying to take away a constitutional right - indeed, the SCOTUS agrees with me. You disagree, and that is fine, and the courts have upheld it. However, that part of the Constitution is a very grey area that will continue to be subject to interpretation until something more precise is specifically amended, thus it will remain under fire. It'll remain under fire until conservatives give up and start attacking some other right they decide they dislike even more. _____________________
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Lecktor Hannibal
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03-21-2006 14:33
Soooo how's that Boycott going? Did we get it passed yet ?
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