Where do the dinosaurs fit into the Bible?

I am not getting what you are getting at...

And sorry, my bad (didn't read your post properly)...

It is not church (nor religion) that asks for your soul. God says all souls are His, and He will decide who goes where based on the way they reacted to His doctorines.

The same way we 'know' that there's no dragon in Ulrika's garage, but we've been over that elsewhere.

However...

Now, I must have missed it, but I would greatly appreciate you pointing it out. Where does the Bible advocate that Christians enact violence?

It is nothing of the sort, and I am certainly not belittling your beliefs. I would ask that you respect mine as well. Condescension is not my idea of a good debate attitude, and I apologize if you took my comments as such.

ahhhh. I see your confusion now. There is no God.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me

Comeon Chip, did you read the scripture or did you just cut and paste it from some website? Jesus never asked Christians to do this. Read it man before you post something like that... This is out of context in the extreme.

Luke 19:11-27 (AMP)
11 Now as they were listening to these things, He proceeded to tell a parable, because He was approaching Jerusalem and because they thought that the kingdom of God was going to be brought to light and shown forth immediately.
12 He therefore said, A certain nobleman went into a distant country to obtain for himself a kingdom and then to return.
13 Calling ten of his [own] bond servants, he gave them ten minas [each equal to about one hundred days' wages or nearly twenty dollars] and said to them, Buy and sell with these while I go and then return.
14 But his citizens detested him and sent an embassy after him to say, We do not want this man to become ruler over us.
15 When he returned after having received the kingdom, he ordered these bond servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, that he might know how much each one had made by buying and selling.
16 The first one came before him, and he said, Lord, your mina has made ten [additional] minas.
17 And he said to him, Well done, excellent bond servant! Because you have been faithful and trustworthy in a very little [thing], you shall have authority over ten cities.
18 The second one also came and said, Lord, your mina has made five more minas.
19 And he said also to him, And you will take charge over five cities.
20 Then another came and said, Lord, here is your mina, which I have kept laid up in a handkerchief.
21 For I was [constantly] afraid of you, because you are a stern (hard, severe) man; you pick up what you did not lay down, and you reap what you did not sow.
22 He said to the servant, I will judge and condemn you out of your own mouth, you wicked slave! You knew [did you] that I was a stern (hard, severe) man, picking up what I did not lay down, and reaping what I did not sow?
23 Then why did you not put my money in a bank, so that on my return, I might have collected it with interest?
24 And he said to the bystanders, Take the mina away from him and give it to him who has the ten minas.
25 And they said to him, Lord, he has ten minas [already]!
26 And [said Jesus,] I tell you that to everyone who gets and has will more be given, but from the man who does not get and does not have, even what he has will be taken away.
27[The indignant king ended by saying] But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to reign over them — bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!

My original comment was directed at those arguing with you that "telling people they are going to hell if they don't follow the rules" is a threat.

My counter argument to this was that "if you don't believe their faith in the first place, is it really a threat?"

You jumped in and asked me how I 'know' that said threat is not vaild and so I tried to point out that most of us think we 'know' things based on our own experience and the experiences of others (dragon example) and reversing the question saying that one religion's viewpoint is no more valid than another's (god of the month example).

Is that really what you see?

I doubt Dinosaurs can fit into the Bible, unless it is a realllllllly big Bible...

You're right, I was just being mean. I know that jesus doesn't support violence against his enemies.

However, what was in my mind at the time was all the christians who support making pre-emptive attacks on percieved enemies and torturing them for information.

I don't mean to insinuate that you're one of them, but it does make me sad and sometimes angry.

Me too.

yep.

I am sorry that I have come across to you that I do not believe in God, I certainly do. I believe He loves me as He loves all that are on the Earth. I believe He has given us all hope for a future of living with him in perfect harmony. And I also believe that He says He will judge us based on our hearts.

Nice spin. It makes no sense. If it's Jesus speaking in 26, it is also Jesus speaking in 27, hence the "But." I can insert a lot of stuff in brackets and spin it how I want to also. I think the original text speaks for itself.

I am not spinning at all. Jesus is speaking throughout the entire parable; He is telling it.

So then 26 is actually still the king?

It is Jesus repeating the kings words of the parable, yes. Why would you think diferently?

Huh? You certainly believe in God.

I'm not sure it matters. Is not the point of the parable that god takes what he wants? Who is the king supposed to represent? Isn't it god? Does he not prove the point right after that when he instructs his followers to go into bethlehem and steal the colt for him to ride because he hath need of it? Does he not then go threaten the pharises saying...

19:43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
19:44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

In other words, all your base are belong to us. The following parable of the vineyard is the same. He is declaring himself the rightful heir of the vineyard (jerusalem). If they refuse, and slay the rightful heir...

20:15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?
20:16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others.

Maybe I'm just slow, but how is this not Jesus appointing himself king of the Jews and threatening destruction to all who deny him and refuse to submit to his reign?

Look like god has a fetish for socks. Mine keep disappearing.

I think it's safe to say that the constructive discussion has ceased in this thread, as such it's being closed.

Oh, wait. I'm not a Linden.

Oh, wait a minute! I am a Linden.

No, wait. Never mind.

SethKa Linden?

When quoting bible passages, can we use something more readable than the King James Version? The "thee"s and "thou"s while sounding more "biblical", are a barrier to understanding for a simple mind like mine. I'm partial to the NAB, but any of the more modern translations would certainly be better than KJV.

Just nitpicking. Trying to evade RL work

It matters in the fact that you were stating that Christians are called to violence.

God's wrath is another thing, and I will make no pretense to know or understand why He chooses to do the things He does. I can only point to what the Scripture says He will do.