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Barbarra Blair

Short Person

Join date: 18 Apr 2004

Posts: 588

10-23-2005 18:50

It was no accident. although it may have gone further than Ol Fiz intended.

There is no skill involved in this scripting, anyone could do it.

It used to be badgers, now it's "griefballs."

Dumb.

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--Obvious Lady

Cape Weary

Eye C U

Join date: 19 Mar 2005

Posts: 57

Griefer

10-23-2005 18:51

I say when we get back on SL that we all do a find for this Ol Fitzcarro guy (I'd remember the name if I saw it) and give him negative ratings for it! He can be the first person in SL history to have 1342352 negative ratings. Maybe it will crash SL again! ack!!

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Barbarra Blair

Short Person

Join date: 18 Apr 2004

Posts: 588

10-23-2005 18:52

They have his credit card number, I suppose they can just send him a bill.

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Hue Moe

Second Life Resident

Join date: 28 Nov 2004

Posts: 18

Hey

10-23-2005 18:53

Hi cape!

Kurshie Muromachi

Primtastic!

Join date: 24 Apr 2005

Posts: 278

10-23-2005 18:56

From: Barbarra Blair

They have his credit card number, I suppose they can just send him a bill.

Yes, pay for our paid time lost and lindens overtime. *Evil Laugh*

Philo Sion

Registered User

Join date: 25 Aug 2005

Posts: 14

10-23-2005 18:56

From: Tequlia Tapioca

Don't know if anybody else noticed (I didn't read every post I'm sorry) his date of birth but I was able to save a UI picture of the objects edit box and his profile to disk before I crashed. I looked at it while here. I think this was his intent and I hope there is more then bannishment allowed for this type of activity if they can find the account holder.

Wanna share Tequlia?

Hue Moe

Second Life Resident

Join date: 28 Nov 2004

Posts: 18

heheh

10-23-2005 18:58

From: Cape Weary

I say when we get back on SL that we all do a find for this Ol Fitzcarro guy (I'd remember the name if I saw it) and give him negative ratings for it! He can be the first person in SL history to have 1342352 negative ratings. Maybe it will crash SL again! ack!!

Whrong again Cape 1.7 is tormaro
and negative ratings are abolished haha darn those lindens jk guys

Asalis Cruyff

Registered User

Join date: 12 Jul 2005

Posts: 10

10-23-2005 18:58

I heard someone make a comment earlier about banning this guys IP address. There is a sliight problem with that. Depending where in the workld he is he quite posably had to route through several routers and servers amoung countless networks. So by the time the connection finally reaches SL it winds up logging the IP address of the last server or router that hits it and not his personal home IP address. blocking an IP address might wind up in fact cutting countless thousands from the game and they would never know why. I agree that something must be done but giving my lack of kowledge in resolving such matters I will choose to not make known my extream agrivation right now.

Cape Weary

Eye C U

Join date: 19 Mar 2005

Posts: 57

Trouble with Tribbles

10-23-2005 19:02

From: Hue Moe

Hi cape!

Hi Hue!! And BTW in regards to your "accident" theory. How much of an accident is it that the prim was called GriefSphere RC3 and the group it was set to was SOMETHING AWFUL. Yea, I'm sure this guy didn't know what he was doing.

I knew this guy that brought a mud down for days making "Tribbles" which doubled in number every .01 second. People do this stuff for laughs and kicks and to read the endless posts about it and laugh about it for years after.

My guess? This guy(s) involved were free accounts and probably used a stolen credit card and phony info so that Lindens couldn't track them down if they wanted to. Something done to this size is carefully calculated and planned out...

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Winter Phoenix

Voyager of Experiences

Join date: 15 Nov 2004

Posts: 683

hmmm

10-23-2005 19:03

How about SL pay everybody who cant get in to play 50 cents for lost time. Then CHARGE THE CREDIT CARD OF THE GUY WHO DID THIS TO RECOUP THE LOSS. Maybe if he gets a 1500 charge on his card he will think twice next time. HANG EM! HANG EM' HIGH!

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~GIVEN FREE REIGN THE SYSTEM WILL TELL YOU,
WHAT TO DO,
WHEN AND HOW TO DO IT,
WHAT YOU CAN READ, VIEW, OR LISTEN TO,
WHAT YOU CAN SAY,
WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR OWN BODY,
AND SUCK ALL YOUR MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET WHILE IT DOES THIS!
QUESTION AUTHORITY!~ W.P

Musimba Yellowknife

Registered User

Join date: 17 Jun 2004

Posts: 14

Forget the Tar and Feathers

10-23-2005 19:04

From: Shadow Keegan

I have the feathers here! lets hunt this guy down.

I prefer using Honey and Fire Ants.

Philo Sion

Registered User

Join date: 25 Aug 2005

Posts: 14

10-23-2005 19:04

From: Asalis Cruyff

I heard someone make a comment earlier about banning this guys IP address. There is a sliight problem with that. Depending where in the workld he is he quite posably had to route through several routers and servers amoung countless networks. So by the time the connection finally reaches SL it winds up logging the IP address of the last server or router that hits it and not his personal home IP address. blocking an IP address might wind up in fact cutting countless thousands from the game and they would never know why. I agree that something must be done but giving my lack of kowledge in resolving such matters I will choose to not make known my extream agrivation right now.

I highly doubt that, Asalis. Proxy connections are very very slow (like being on a dial up even if your line is broadband), and it would be rather difficult to even log into an MMO with that kind of connection.

However, if he was using some services, the IP adress could be cycled through multiple users - so banning him would also ban everyone else using his local ISP, that sort of thing.

Sargus Kraken

Registered User

Join date: 27 Feb 2005

Posts: 109

10-23-2005 19:06

From: Asalis Cruyff

I heard someone make a comment earlier about banning this guys IP address. There is a sliight problem with that. Depending where in the workld he is he quite posably had to route through several routers and servers amoung countless networks. So by the time the connection finally reaches SL it winds up logging the IP address of the last server or router that hits it and not his personal home IP address. blocking an IP address might wind up in fact cutting countless thousands from the game and they would never know why. I agree that something must be done but giving my lack of kowledge in resolving such matters I will choose to not make known my extream agrivation right now.

The problem is that many addresses now are dynamic due to the limit of IP network address space, so to ban him permanently might require banning a range of IPs, so anyone on his subnet gets banned too.

Regarding the credit card, it is entirely possible the credit card was a stolen number.

Asalis Cruyff

Registered User

Join date: 12 Jul 2005

Posts: 10

10-23-2005 19:09

I never stopped to comnsider data packet. My bad.

Ward Turner

Registered User

Join date: 5 Oct 2005

Posts: 5

Sick... just SICK!

10-23-2005 19:09

...Sick... i was just just .. just.. AHH ITS JUST SICK! .. and im all for the honey and fireants *runs to get fireants* OK! anyone got the honey!... but i meen.. who would do this if second life is this open to things like this who knows what the future brings

mathew Horton

Registered User

Join date: 18 Sep 2005

Posts: 40

10-23-2005 19:10

I was in a jedi meeting and lagged and then crashed

Sargus Kraken

Registered User

Join date: 27 Feb 2005

Posts: 109

10-23-2005 19:12

I saw one of those stupid balls land at my feet and wondered where it came from, but other than that thought nothing of it. Shortly after I could not move, but that's not all that unusual in SL, right? *chuckles*

mathew Horton

Registered User

Join date: 18 Sep 2005

Posts: 40

Out Of curiosity

10-23-2005 19:13

For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe?

Edred Einarmige

Registered User

Join date: 3 Oct 2005

Posts: 16

This is just so Matrix

10-23-2005 19:15

I had been trying to log in and couldn't so i thought of the forums and find out we've been hacked with a visual feedback hack yet! I feel sorry for you guys. I'm a noob and don't have much connection yet, but I feel for you.

I suggest he should be strung up with the honey and fire ants and each one of us gets a turn at tasering his genitalia. That would be corrective shock therapy. I'm just bummed I can't get on and hang with my girl.

Asalis Cruyff

Registered User

Join date: 12 Jul 2005

Posts: 10

10-23-2005 19:17

I was at one of the seprate island when this hit. I had no odea what was going on till I came here. he';s probably getting a real good laugh outta this. as for me I have other methods of amusment. Secondlife going down is of little concern to me. I'm sure most of us hear after having calmed down is currently doing something els to entertain themselvs. By posting hate comments here your pretty much giving the guy exactly wants.

Sargus Kraken

Registered User

Join date: 27 Feb 2005

Posts: 109

10-23-2005 19:17

From: mathew Horton

For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe?

Hmm, you bring up a good point. The asset server could be overwhelmed. I would think for any transactions at the time it is possible some were lost due to the lag. I doubt any prior objects would be lost, unless this triggered a memory overflow and stomped on memory, which is possible. Lets hope memory capacity was not reached in the asset server and that it handles upper limits well.

Tequlia Tapioca

Second Life Resident

Join date: 22 Oct 2004

Posts: 116

10-23-2005 19:17

His/her birthdate is 9/11/2005

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*hugsssssssssss, Teq

Philo Sion

Registered User

Join date: 25 Aug 2005

Posts: 14

10-23-2005 19:19

From: mathew Horton

For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe?

If you built or rezzed within the last 24 hours and they have to reset the sims (likely, I think) you'll lose it all. No, LL won't reimburse you on the stuff you rezzed that you had to pay for that was no copy. This happened to me last week when Newman was reset. I suspect it's about to happen to a bunch more people.

Cirra Jarrico

Sexy In Chocolate

Join date: 20 Jul 2005

Posts: 5

Property/Item Loss?

10-23-2005 19:20

From: mathew Horton

For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe?

No not if the Lindens had backed up system before crash and no one hacked right?

Groove Mechanique

The Skunker..

Join date: 27 Feb 2005

Posts: 13

Moments like this..

10-23-2005 19:20

Call me kooky, but moments like this make me realize I am part of a bigger picture.. Just another addicted SL'er locked out of some night time fun by a malicious attack.. I'm happy to be part of Second Life.. Group hugs anyone?? No?? Okay then how about I heat the tar for the feathering..

As a side note.. this is my first entry into the forums.. woooooo..

Is Grid Down?
Barbarra Blair Short Person Join date: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 588	10-23-2005 18:50 It was no accident. although it may have gone further than Ol Fiz intended. There is no skill involved in this scripting, anyone could do it. It used to be badgers, now it's "griefballs." Dumb. _____________________ --Obvious Lady
Cape Weary Eye C U Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 57	Griefer 10-23-2005 18:51 I say when we get back on SL that we all do a find for this Ol Fitzcarro guy (I'd remember the name if I saw it) and give him negative ratings for it! He can be the first person in SL history to have 1342352 negative ratings. Maybe it will crash SL again! ack!! _____________________ Cape Weary
Barbarra Blair Short Person Join date: 18 Apr 2004 Posts: 588	10-23-2005 18:52 They have his credit card number, I suppose they can just send him a bill. _____________________ --Obvious Lady
Hue Moe Second Life Resident Join date: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 18	Hey 10-23-2005 18:53 Hi cape!
Kurshie Muromachi Primtastic! Join date: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 278	10-23-2005 18:56 From: Barbarra Blair They have his credit card number, I suppose they can just send him a bill. Yes, pay for our paid time lost and lindens overtime. Evil Laugh
Philo Sion Registered User Join date: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 14	10-23-2005 18:56 From: Tequlia Tapioca Don't know if anybody else noticed (I didn't read every post I'm sorry) his date of birth but I was able to save a UI picture of the objects edit box and his profile to disk before I crashed. I looked at it while here. I think this was his intent and I hope there is more then bannishment allowed for this type of activity if they can find the account holder. Wanna share Tequlia?
Hue Moe Second Life Resident Join date: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 18	heheh 10-23-2005 18:58 From: Cape Weary I say when we get back on SL that we all do a find for this Ol Fitzcarro guy (I'd remember the name if I saw it) and give him negative ratings for it! He can be the first person in SL history to have 1342352 negative ratings. Maybe it will crash SL again! ack!! Whrong again Cape 1.7 is tormaro and negative ratings are abolished haha darn those lindens jk guys
Asalis Cruyff Registered User Join date: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 10	10-23-2005 18:58 I heard someone make a comment earlier about banning this guys IP address. There is a sliight problem with that. Depending where in the workld he is he quite posably had to route through several routers and servers amoung countless networks. So by the time the connection finally reaches SL it winds up logging the IP address of the last server or router that hits it and not his personal home IP address. blocking an IP address might wind up in fact cutting countless thousands from the game and they would never know why. I agree that something must be done but giving my lack of kowledge in resolving such matters I will choose to not make known my extream agrivation right now.
Cape Weary Eye C U Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 57	Trouble with Tribbles 10-23-2005 19:02 From: Hue Moe Hi cape! Hi Hue!! And BTW in regards to your "accident" theory. How much of an accident is it that the prim was called GriefSphere RC3 and the group it was set to was SOMETHING AWFUL. Yea, I'm sure this guy didn't know what he was doing. I knew this guy that brought a mud down for days making "Tribbles" which doubled in number every .01 second. People do this stuff for laughs and kicks and to read the endless posts about it and laugh about it for years after. My guess? This guy(s) involved were free accounts and probably used a stolen credit card and phony info so that Lindens couldn't track them down if they wanted to. Something done to this size is carefully calculated and planned out... _____________________ Cape Weary
Winter Phoenix Voyager of Experiences Join date: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 683	hmmm 10-23-2005 19:03 How about SL pay everybody who cant get in to play 50 cents for lost time. Then CHARGE THE CREDIT CARD OF THE GUY WHO DID THIS TO RECOUP THE LOSS. Maybe if he gets a 1500 charge on his card he will think twice next time. HANG EM! HANG EM' HIGH! _____________________ ~GIVEN FREE REIGN THE SYSTEM WILL TELL YOU, WHAT TO DO, WHEN AND HOW TO DO IT, WHAT YOU CAN READ, VIEW, OR LISTEN TO, WHAT YOU CAN SAY, WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR OWN BODY, AND SUCK ALL YOUR MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET WHILE IT DOES THIS! QUESTION AUTHORITY!~ W.P
Musimba Yellowknife Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 14	Forget the Tar and Feathers 10-23-2005 19:04 From: Shadow Keegan I have the feathers here! lets hunt this guy down. I prefer using Honey and Fire Ants.
Philo Sion Registered User Join date: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 14	10-23-2005 19:04 From: Asalis Cruyff I heard someone make a comment earlier about banning this guys IP address. There is a sliight problem with that. Depending where in the workld he is he quite posably had to route through several routers and servers amoung countless networks. So by the time the connection finally reaches SL it winds up logging the IP address of the last server or router that hits it and not his personal home IP address. blocking an IP address might wind up in fact cutting countless thousands from the game and they would never know why. I agree that something must be done but giving my lack of kowledge in resolving such matters I will choose to not make known my extream agrivation right now. I highly doubt that, Asalis. Proxy connections are very very slow (like being on a dial up even if your line is broadband), and it would be rather difficult to even log into an MMO with that kind of connection. However, if he was using some services, the IP adress could be cycled through multiple users - so banning him would also ban everyone else using his local ISP, that sort of thing.
Sargus Kraken Registered User Join date: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 109	10-23-2005 19:06 From: Asalis Cruyff I heard someone make a comment earlier about banning this guys IP address. There is a sliight problem with that. Depending where in the workld he is he quite posably had to route through several routers and servers amoung countless networks. So by the time the connection finally reaches SL it winds up logging the IP address of the last server or router that hits it and not his personal home IP address. blocking an IP address might wind up in fact cutting countless thousands from the game and they would never know why. I agree that something must be done but giving my lack of kowledge in resolving such matters I will choose to not make known my extream agrivation right now. The problem is that many addresses now are dynamic due to the limit of IP network address space, so to ban him permanently might require banning a range of IPs, so anyone on his subnet gets banned too. Regarding the credit card, it is entirely possible the credit card was a stolen number.
Asalis Cruyff Registered User Join date: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 10	10-23-2005 19:09 I never stopped to comnsider data packet. My bad.
Ward Turner Registered User Join date: 5 Oct 2005 Posts: 5	Sick... just SICK! 10-23-2005 19:09 ...Sick... i was just just .. just.. AHH ITS JUST SICK! .. and im all for the honey and fireants runs to get fireants OK! anyone got the honey!... but i meen.. who would do this if second life is this open to things like this who knows what the future brings
mathew Horton Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 40	10-23-2005 19:10 I was in a jedi meeting and lagged and then crashed
Sargus Kraken Registered User Join date: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 109	10-23-2005 19:12 I saw one of those stupid balls land at my feet and wondered where it came from, but other than that thought nothing of it. Shortly after I could not move, but that's not all that unusual in SL, right? chuckles
mathew Horton Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 40	Out Of curiosity 10-23-2005 19:13 For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe?
Edred Einarmige Registered User Join date: 3 Oct 2005 Posts: 16	This is just so Matrix 10-23-2005 19:15 I had been trying to log in and couldn't so i thought of the forums and find out we've been hacked with a visual feedback hack yet! I feel sorry for you guys. I'm a noob and don't have much connection yet, but I feel for you. I suggest he should be strung up with the honey and fire ants and each one of us gets a turn at tasering his genitalia. That would be corrective shock therapy. I'm just bummed I can't get on and hang with my girl.
Asalis Cruyff Registered User Join date: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 10	10-23-2005 19:17 I was at one of the seprate island when this hit. I had no odea what was going on till I came here. he';s probably getting a real good laugh outta this. as for me I have other methods of amusment. Secondlife going down is of little concern to me. I'm sure most of us hear after having calmed down is currently doing something els to entertain themselvs. By posting hate comments here your pretty much giving the guy exactly wants.
Sargus Kraken Registered User Join date: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 109	10-23-2005 19:17 From: mathew Horton For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe? Hmm, you bring up a good point. The asset server could be overwhelmed. I would think for any transactions at the time it is possible some were lost due to the lag. I doubt any prior objects would be lost, unless this triggered a memory overflow and stomped on memory, which is possible. Lets hope memory capacity was not reached in the asset server and that it handles upper limits well.
Tequlia Tapioca Second Life Resident Join date: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 116	10-23-2005 19:17 His/her birthdate is 9/11/2005 _____________________ *hugsssssssssss, Teq
Philo Sion Registered User Join date: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 14	10-23-2005 19:19 From: mathew Horton For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe? If you built or rezzed within the last 24 hours and they have to reset the sims (likely, I think) you'll lose it all. No, LL won't reimburse you on the stuff you rezzed that you had to pay for that was no copy. This happened to me last week when Newman was reset. I suspect it's about to happen to a bunch more people.
Cirra Jarrico Sexy In Chocolate Join date: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 5	Property/Item Loss? 10-23-2005 19:20 From: mathew Horton For all you peeps who know alot about scriptiong and sl probs and stuff do you think this could cause people to loose some of there stuff or buildings maybe? No not if the Lindens had backed up system before crash and no one hacked right?
Groove Mechanique The Skunker.. Join date: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 13	Moments like this.. 10-23-2005 19:20 Call me kooky, but moments like this make me realize I am part of a bigger picture.. Just another addicted SL'er locked out of some night time fun by a malicious attack.. I'm happy to be part of Second Life.. Group hugs anyone?? No?? Okay then how about I heat the tar for the feathering.. As a side note.. this is my first entry into the forums.. woooooo..

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