Xcite, Please SHUT UP!

./me wonders if starting a SL body condom shop would be the new way to make millions in SL........

But on a serious note.......

A responsible person that creates such a novelty to allow the freedom of expression in SL to venture into the realm of pixel sex fun.......That also notices an obvious discontent from the general public over such an "invention" (and it seems to be not limited to public places as I have seen people get blasted away with the "then dont go to these places" when they get this spam on THEIR OWN LAND!!), would find yet better means to show respect to those that don't enjoy the spam of such objects....

The whisper setting is nice, and a good start, but as a scripter myself, it took me 2 seconds and the first page of this thread to come up with a better idea than whisper.....

It is really simple. Designate a channel for these objects to interact on (ie chat channel ya know in example llSay(0,"FOO"; where the zero is da channel, make that say um......69 for example and for purposes...

Then have these devices relay all interactions to llOwnerSay((string)FOO-HERE);

So then all these nifty fun lil novelties can have the time of their life and not bother the general public......

simply put.....

string orgasim = "<insert random message of pixelated excitement here>";
string mutual_enjoyment;

default

state_entry()
{
lllListen(69,"","","";
}

touch()
{
llSay(69,(string)orgasim);
}

listen( integer channel, string name, key id, string message )
{
if (channel == 69)
{
llOwnerSay(message);
}
}

You get what this means if you understand scripting at all....this is totally crude but you get the drift.....its easy and show respect for fellow SLers.........

Not to mention respect to those who would choose to have the freedom of being free of you impeeding on their freedom of peace and quiet.

EDIT:

oh and on the note of the voyeurism........thats easy, and you can make capitol on it........

just create nonsexual listening devices that relay the "sex chat" to the owner of a device much as you would the devices relay....... have em listen to that channel......

it is not as hard as you convey that it is to silence these things....not everyone knows this, but there are people that aren't morons and DO know this.....don't try to sell the griefing potential to the Jon-Q-Public as an inability to silence these things......

voyeurism != opening a door to annoying everyone......(meaning does not equal)




And now, commence your regularily scheduled chaos and let the flames begin........

While I appreciate your fervor, Charlie, your solution, while on the surface may seem rational, is not at all a good solution for a variety of reasons. This is a compromise situation. We shall reduce the default range of the spatial chatter to 10 meters, and it is very easy to put that distance, which is only a few steps, between you and someone enjoying sexual activities. What we will not do is sacrifice the ease of use or enjoyability of our items simply because people refuse to move a few feet away.

I will not continue to debate specific potential solutions, technical or not, on a public forum. Again, we're always open to ideas, but please send them in an IM or via email to [email]javier@getxcite.com[/email]. This is not the place for this.

- Javier, Xcite!

Hey, that could even be used for exhibitionists too! Like, say, every chat line that the voyeur device listens to, there is a 1 in X chance that the owner of the original chat line will get a message along the lines of, "First Last is peeking at you!"

Fun for the whole family!

Of course, there will be the temptation for someone to take a "cock/vagina jammer"...

ECM and sex! Excellent combo!

Actually, Charlie's solution sounds quite good to me. Admittedly you have a load of listens, but they're on an obscure channel so won't clog the sim up too much, certainly not more than public chat. Objects shouldn't use channel 0 unless they are specifically supposed to give important information to everyone around them.

What exactly does this mean? You mean you wouldn't want someone to hack the chatter of these objects to make them go nuts in ways you don't intend? If this is the case I can understand that....and there is a very easy workaround.....have a special prim in the "attachments" named specifically and universally between all objects of this nature, then in the llListen(69,"","",""; make them all listen for that specific named object......if you set the perms correctly and it is not a parent, it could be difficult and unproductive to hack...tho one might still try.

If this is not what you mean then explain.




This is just wrong, no one should be forced to "MOVE" away from anything to accomodate one's refusal to make an item "public friendly" in all acceptable ways, tho the whisper is a slight accomodation, and I among one of the people who care not to hear this chatter appreciate at least this much thus far, I think with a little more thought on your part, could make a far surperior product if you would explore more ideas to be friendly to all. Not to mention, my suggestions do not really effect the "ease of use" to the end user. It only adds code to the functionality of the item, that works in much the same way as it currently does without any additional steps or functions that the user would have to do to use these items.



I am not inclined to take a public matter (as your objects you sell involve the public when they can be and are heard in public)....to private.

In some ways one could take this as an attempt to either silence one that is against your policies of operation completely, or an attempt to make an obvious "feature" that you intend to have on this object, (meaning the ability to actually annoy) not exposed as such.

or if you dont want to discuss the innerworkings of this item in public but are open to "fixes" that you don't want well known, then it is up to you to research them and find the private means to get assistance if you can't come to self conclusion on it. It is not up to me
or anyone else that is annoyed by this to protect your asset.

EDIT:

I am sorry if I come across as an ass in this, I just run into many things in SL that are not to public friendly, and meet various forms of resistance to accomodate the average user that doesn't want to be annoyed. (I am not taking a stance based soley on my wanting to hurt you or silence you/censor you) I wish you the best in your venture, and I do not hold anything against you or anyone that enjoys these products. I just think that if steps are taken to enjoy controversial things like this are explored. The people that would actually band together to try to remove or what not would not ever be a factor.

I am really against censorship and removal of one's rights.....but I like to try to consider the rights of both and all sides. If this item or line of items did not offer a public "annoyance factor" it would and should never be challenged by the censor police.

Again, if you wish to discuss this further, please communicate with me privately. Despite what you may think, this is not a public issue. We are a private company trying to put out the best products we can. We will continue to innovate solutions along these lines that reduce impact on the environment without impacting the usability and enjoyment of our products. What we will not do is discuss those innovations, or any others, on a public forum, as this can be detrimental to our business.

If you wish to continue this discussion, please contact me via email.

Javier, Xcite!

It is unfair to place the blame on Javier. His products are very nicely coded and provide both button interface and notecard setting editting for eliminating the public chat. It is soley on the user's responsibility IMHO to make amends for what some stuffshirts see as a nuisance.

Okay.

Yuh. But the fact is that 99% of users don't change settings from the default.

... And that is Javier's fault why??

It's something you have to be aware of when selling an item with a certain default configuration.

Okie doke. That's why we have 'don't eat' on silica gel packs I guess.

It is a product develpor's responsibility to make sure that their objects and developments are friendly by default, if they wish to be considered "friendly" items.

I am not saying that he does bad work, I am also not blaming him for lack of respect to others from the users of his products. I am just saying that in order to make sure he can be held blameless in any controversies revolving around his creations, he can take further steps to make that happen.

Just as it would be considered the scripters fault if say an item was not resource friendly and drags a sim to its knees....(again, don't read into this, it is only a vague example of coder responsibility, in no way directed to ANY Xcite products)

I understand and agree to an extent. I still place responsibility on the user to RTFM which is automagically poofed in their face whenever they purchase one of the Xcite products.

Yeah, I'm sure the scripting is fine, I just don't think that this sounds like a good default configuration.

I'd like to know about these problems with Charlie's suggestions which I've not managed to think of, which why I emailed the fellow about them, but that's more for educational purposes than anything else.

Oh, sure, but who Rs TFM in practice?

Touche

This is by far the most entertaining thread i have read in these forums!

Well...I have the greatest of respect for Javier's work. Blaming him for the acts of his customers...so to speak...is like blaming the gun makers for the trigger-happy behaviour of griefers.

I have never been the proud owner of an Xcite male attachment, but I find the interface for...clicking on it...easy and intuitive. For those times when expressing your desire in speech or text is not possible or appropriate, a drop-down blue menu is welcome.

My only complaints have been outlined in this thread, the finale is a little creepy. If pushed, I would say that it can be irritating when I have done the dance of the seven veils, exhausted myself clicking and touching, only to find it is only "lightly aroused". LIGHTLY AROUSED???? In RL ...OK lets not go there lol.

I think Charlie, you should experience the delights of the Xcite attachment before you question whether the creator has done a good job. If you can't face a major attachment, let me recommend that you get yourself some Xcite nipples...which can be a source of hours of fun.

People you don't know can twist, bite or stroke your nipples. And you can conduct experiements to see if your nipples can talk as far or further than you can.

If you feel really creative, maybe you can give them spoof names and see if anyone notices. I favour Philip Linden for your left nipple and Axle Sprung for your right, but that's just me.

Alternatively you could easily reprogramme them to say:
Charlie's nipples rebuffed the approaches of the attractive female who sneakily sent her camera into his house....
OR
These nipples would usually spam everyone to hell but now they just send out this message
OR
My other nipples have erections but can't talk....

I feel you owe it to scientific endeavour in the wider community to go buy those attachments!
Cali

I must say that I've had some interesting emails with the creator regarding the Xcite system, which I won't reproduce without permission, but he has some good points.

Um, which emanations are you talking about, exactly?

Its easy to write a less spammy version of excite stuff. Use llInstantMessage instead of llSay. Have it IM both parties instead of exposing it out loud to everyone. Or just take it into IMs all together.

this is a interesting thread lol i personally type alot but i do put my excite toys on for the mans pleasure but i must confess i didint know i could mute the spam lol so i will try that next time

Kudos to the Xcite team for changing the default to Whisper mode!

I finally figured out how to do that via their notecards, which required placing every part, plus the HUD, on the table, one at a time, and editing the contents so I could adjust that notecard. *sigh* Tedious, but not too bad. It would still be far better to have a 'whisper' button on the HUD.

I must say, however, that reading the settings in the card, and realizing how I could modify the chat responses to suit my own preferences for those responses, was quite amusing!

You're not supposed to eat them? I thought they were the "secret surprise".