SLCC 2006: Registration is now open!

Please define 'everyone'. I'm willing to bet your 'everyone' is the same 'community' that was involved in the location decision process.

In either case, trying to claim your convention (conference? fic party? beerfest? pick a word), was 'community' themed is like Bill Clinton asking what the definition of 'is' is. Great for comedy talk-tv 30-second quips, but not likely to be taken seriously.

Pssst here's a secret for you too - not all of us fall for such clear copout excuses.


- Newfie

Have you asked the community how we feel, one way or another about the selection process? I for one don't espcially care, I am happy to call it a community convention and I had NOTHING to do with the selection and planning.

But i am fine that some things are done for a community and not just by a community.

Oh just get over it already will you. So we didnt ask every person we know for zOMG what should we call the convention. We needed something fast and came up with that. I've never seen someone get so hot and bothered over semantics before. The only reason I am responding is because well I just like to argue sometimes other than that I really dont care what you think and I seriously doubt I ever will.

-Jennyfur

I have asked the community about as much as the SLCC committee has. Only one little difference - my name (or my charter) doesn't pretend to have 'community' in the name, or even in theme.



Congratulations. I on the other hand, prefer to be involved - even if it's just in a small way - when it comes to decisions that pretend to be 'for' me. Or in this case, pretend to be 'for' the community.


- Newfie

There won't be a bunch of women at the SLCC?

If by involved you mean constantly complaining and lambasting everyone who is actually doing something while you refuse to lift a finger and do nothing but criticize - then congratulations you are doing an outstanding job at being "involved".

-Jennyfur

I'm sorry if you fel tthat the community was only a side-thought in your self-important conference. Then again, I'm getting a strong impression that's roughly par for the course.

Enjoy your SLC. The community I'm sure will be glad to attend a real community convention, if and when someone is willing to give it a genuine try, instead of using it as an excuse to pat themselves on the back.


- Newfie

Bored now. You are now officially being ignored. Have a nice day.

-Jennyfur

Let's start off with some basic concepts, since someone missed their orientation in kindergarten:



So? I'm not doing this for your enjoyment, or for your admiration. I'm doing it because it needs to be said, and your liking me (or not) is irrelevant to that.




I will have to take your word on it, since for the last two conventions, you haven't done so. Pardon me if I'm a tad skeptical. When you actually do it, let me know.



See statement #1. I dont care if you're sick of it, and I really dont care what you may think of how I'm responding. That's not why I'm responding. But then again, I would suppose it's easier for you to grouse and whine about 'broken records' and 'critisize' rather than deal directly with the issue and act like the community in 'community convention' mattered.

But, your own throwing of tantrums already clearly shows your opinion on that one.


- Newfie

I'm sure there will be, but I'm not going to SLCC to chase skirts. I like SL too much for that. (you know, the ol' "don't shit where you eat"

Newfie, I got $150 that says your slamming SLCC is lame.

I gave it to the organizers. So did a bunch of other people.

So, you lose.

I very seldom address someone individually in a response. Im making an exception in your case.

Will you please give it a rest? Your point has been made, and made and made. You are winning no points with your insistence on this petty carping. While you might have had some ground for your original complaint, you have surrendered it to this spiteful campaign. Please stop it.

BTW .. I also plan on attending, have already made hotel and airline arrangements ... registration soon. I'm looking forward to it. My thanks to the organizers!

YEA! well over 100 folks have signed up so far !! cant wait to see every one !!

ITS GOING TO BE A BLAST!!!

Last year, the male / female (RL) attendance was just about 50 / 50. So far this year, the women are outnumbering the men.

Regards,

-Flip

and not all of *US* are such self-aggrandized jerks, speak for yerself

wooot go Ladies

Well it seems to me you have said your peace here in the forums, you have expressed you position and were resoundingly voted down. Now you are just whining.

I just love how people rush to judgement before they have all of the information. There are some things we haven't announced yet as far as the SLCC goes this year because we were still working out the details and stuff. No sense in saying "Hey we are doing this" and then having to say "hey wait we cant do that so now we are doing this". So, stay tuned for some rather kewl COMMUNITY based opportunities

Looking at the registration list I am fairly excited to meet so many new people and to see some of my favorite SLer's again.

-Jennyfur

Congratulations, I hope your opinion means something to you. As for me, nope, it doesn't. I do support your right to it though.




To lose, one must be playing. Sorry to disappoint you there. I'm more interested in stating my point, rather than pretending to play a game.


Oh and to respond to Jennyfur's last point, I'll be more than happy at the prospect of the SLCC doing community-oriented activities in their plans. In fact, that would be exactly why I raised my point in the first place. Having said that though, it hasn't happened yet, so I'll be waiting patiently until the time comes that it actually does occur.


- Newfie

I already said you lost, dude.

It's over.

Well then, why am I still posting?

By all means, please continue to make statements that are irrelevant and of no actual use to the thread. Even if you hold your breath and turn blue in the face it wont change my opinion.


- Newfie

Newfie, i'm not sure if you've seen this from the SLCC site, but it may be of interest to you:



this development means that the community is much more involved and has more presence this year than last. perhaps shining a light on the next conventions possibilities to be even more inclusive of the community.

and for those not involved, they are considered when those involved are working on putting this whole thing together.

being concerned about community involvement in a community convention definitely has merit and i can only hope it can be amicably addressed in both present and future terms.

Well said Cybin. My particular annoyance at the situation at hand has come from blanket assumptions without the facts being fully known and only assumed. Just because we used the term "community" we never intimated that every single community member would be involved in every single aspect of decision making, which is a veritable impossibility. We do our best, which for some will never be enough.

My own equal annoyance is from the flip side (no pun intended) of that statement. It has been clear from past postings by SLC committee members that community involvement was an afterthought, and then when communities members pointed the fact out, they would be brushed off with excuses like 'oh the community is too large to poll' or 'we dont have time this year' or 'we thought just asking around would suffice.' It might be impossible to canvas every member of the SL community, but it does not make a justification to perform absolutely zero community involvement.

If my own squawking and persistence in making this matter known eventually means that the SLC eventually does attempt to involve the community, then it was worth the headache. If it doesn't, well.....we'll just repeat this all over next yeaar. And so on.


- Newfie