You cannot rate this thread.

Where can you see the stars coco, I can't

Or am I just blind?

On the main page for General forum, that lists all the threads.

AH! Thanks! I see, I only ever use new posts, so I didn't think to look down the General list.

I gotta admit I don't think its fair that ResMods can rate threads, even tho rates don't really mean anything.

That's just the sassy, little valley girl in you talking.

*flings legwarmers and frosted lipstick in the air for all.*

I'm not overly concerned with the star ratings. Everyone knows they're meaningless. The res mod thing is off to a rocky start but I think lots of forums have adopted this system. At the risk of being unpopular, I don't think it's a bad system. Things just need to settle down a bit. Or maybe that's just the boxed wine talking.

Which is why it comes off as a pissy little commentary. There is only one frickin thread rated at all. How is that an attempt at being a positive presense and an effort to highlight "good" threads?


Give it time? Maybe the time should have been taken to prepare and develop a proper program before implementing it. I guess forum moderation, like SL, is still Beta.

I never said it was perfect. But I think when the kinks are worked out, it could be effective.

I'm having a very hard time getting wound up about all this. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?

I'm having a very hard time getting worked up over this. What is wrong with me?

For clarification, it was *after* this thread was moved that a discussion began on the ResMod forum about what should be considered Off-Topic and what should stay in General. From that discussion came the allowance of Meta-Discussions to be able to stay in the SL General forum.

So basically, if a thread is really about SL (and doesn't stray way way off into off-topic land down the road) then it should stay in the General forum. Unless of course it fits specifically in another SL related forum (events, classifieds, scripting, etc).

Jeska was the one who moved this thread (again *before* the new clarification). And Cybin is right, I don't think we quite knew if we should/could move it back. I'm glad to see it was though!

Not a thing... in the scheme of things, it's about like a chipped fingernail in importance.

Okay, first off... Coco...I'm not laughing at you, but maybe if you saw the humor that a thread about "you can't rate this thread" gets stars after you cool off, it is funny. Focus on the bigger issue, you got your thread moved back to general...a thread that was moved by Jeska to begin with, not a resmod. That's a victory. Even if you never see the humor, take this and make it your OWN and realize that the presence of stars will bring attention to folks to READ the thread to find out why it got rated when none of the others did. It actually works in the reverse.

To the resmods that rated the thread, it WAS childish and an abuse of your power to do so. It's painfully obvious that you did it to get a rise out of her, and it worked. Goody for you.

People are out here trying to be positive and supportive of this program and you guys go and do stupid stuff like this to stir the pot.

No thanks folks, I suppported you, now the program can sink or swim without my further comment on it.

Now excuse me I have about 99,999 other SL residents know that Bergman's Bargins is selling our freebie trailer. We all have our crusades.

Take care Coco, Sometimes the best way to handle a slap is to deny the jerk your response. It makes you very boring to them and they stop.

Coming into a thread to insult the posters by trivializing the opinions which have been expressed there would be called what?

I'll wait for an answer if you need to get together and discuss it first.

It is bad enough that this thread was singled out to be moved out of General, while the ResMod's tried to figure out policy (while leaving every other thread on similar topics). To take all this time to move it back even after Jeska's clarification days ago that it forum discussions belonged in General, and then add insult to injury by rating it 2 stars is not only insulting, it is abusive. This is a blatant example of what is wrong with the ResMod program, and why I cannot say enough negative things about it.

Margaret, you have a good point. what good is the star ratings if they're not used properly? not very good at all i imagine. i have to take some blame for the ratings not working quite as they should.. because i have only rated one thread since becoming a ResMod (and only a couple times ever), and that was to give a 5 star rating.. i believe it was for the "Idea: LSL Bounties" thread.
maybe it's because i've been focusing more on the moderating part than the ratings, but still.. as of now i'm going to try to consider rating threads more often.

as for your last question, i'm not sure what you're getting at. it sounds like the answer would be something along the lines of "active trivializing", but that really doesn't answer your question. if you could rephrase it or explain in a little more detail i would be glad to try to answer you succinctly.

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Cris, to be fair, i wasn't aware of the final decision on meta-discussions until last night. not sure how i missed it, but there you have it. i see where some actions seem a bit sluggish, but that's just the nature of the beast when there is an entire board to moderate and a slew of ARs to be concerned with on a daily basis as well.

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as far as ratings go, i'm not sure what's going on, but to steer this back to the original post.. do you guys think that it could be helpful if it's used properly? would you tend to still ignore ratings anyway (i know i never really paid attention to them, just as a point of fact), or would you find it helpful if they to point out useful or interesting threads more than low-starring something?

You are not the only resident moderator. I understand the board is busy, but you have 8,000 moderators now on this forum. On top of that, Jeska moved the original thread rather quickly to purge it out of General (again, while leaving every OTHER SINGLE THREAD ON THE SAME TOPIC). The whole point is the entire way it has been handled has been ridiculous, and it remains so. Adding a 2 star rating is just par for the course. Apparently Cocoanut is correct that she is singled out - there is no other way to explain how this has all been handled across the board.

Unfuckingreal

Just when I fear the ResModrama is ebbing, I am given this delicious treat.

The moderation is generous indeed.

I agree.

Since the ResMod program was announced I haven't had much to say in these LL forums. I am trying very hard to give it a fair shot.

ResMods were hand picked without reading the majority of their posting history.
ResMods were not asked if they wanted the job.
ResMods were put in a position of having to deal with the fourms without specific guidelines that made them feel comfortable in moderating these forums.
We had one ResMod post a very inflammatory letter to the forums, upon quitting.
We have ResMods who should not be judging anyone.
We have threads being moved.
We have accidental warning being sent out.
We lost the ability to rate our own threads.
We lost the ability to see who is also reading the forums.
Now we have a poster being singled out.

I have no idea what is going on in the backround perhaps ppl are getting the warnings and/or disciplinary action they deserve. We don't know unless those ppl announce it to the forums.

This is a very rocky start to say the least. We absolutely have to take into account what ppl feel about ResMods. We absolutely need ppl from both sides of issues on the same team. Or we will be spoon fed only what LL wants us to read. Socialist realism theory?

No one should ever be subjected to being openly insulted, no one should be allowed to belittle the opinions of others. It’s just an opinion, it’s not a life or death issue. Posters and ResMods can be a little overzealous. LL should not allow the ResMods to single out a poster. These things must change IMO, if we are to see positive change in the forums. Again isn’t positive change what we all want? To make a difference in SL? To affect the shaping of this virtual space?

If not, why not?
Those who feel a need to lash out at, get a rise out of, create dhrama for the sake of hurting others, etc. Perhaps should take a good look at why they are here. I personally feel it holds SL back from what SL can be. I have personally asked for change to the forums. Something is better than nothing.

This road we are on is a very bumpy one and it has not been tested in SL before. Assigning us to police ourselves is a good idea in theory , as long as we don’t put the foxes in charge of the hen house. Time and time again I have seen ppl pushed out of these forums or past their normal social limits. They lash back out of a need to preserve themselves and their beliefs. Ppl should not be pushed into a corner, and mob mentality should have been abolished long ago.

I tell you all this from experience in these forums. Please keep in mind this is just my opinion. You don’t have to read it or like it. But what ever you do, please think before post. If your post is meant to incite anger; it probably will. That does nothing but harm to these discussions.

I am still trying to give this new ResMod program a chance, no new program I have ever been involved with ever went smooth as ice. I didn’t expect this one to either. However we must promptly fix the problems that have been brought up in these discussions. In order for the ResMod program to succeed.

Peace.

Cat

Excellent post, Martin.

Ditto.

This thread is quality entertainment. I'll be sad to see it end. So, when we run out of things to say about stars, can we move on to discussion of whuffie ?

I love whuffie. Now rate me.

As they say in the hood, as it were, qft.

Good summarization of the Resmod launch, Martin.

I, too, have never understand the need for people to announce their lack of interest in a discussion topic or to heckle. Does it arise from the feeling of being neglected or left out? The inability to amuse one self while others are preoccupied elsewhere? Maybe control freaks who must dominate the action at all times. Let's not forget the need to feel above the rest.