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I rate this thread 2 stars cause ima confused.....


0 stars worse and 6 stars means you are a god or goddess next to me.


bleh.

The star ratings were a source of amusement for me .. I liked watching all my stuff get some - then watch the lil box at the bottom as ppl logged in alts and watched em climb down again.. I managed to compile a pretty good comprehensive list

I let the number in the upper right of the SecondLife client tell me how my stuff is.. not how many times some twat with alts clicks the mouse on the forums.

Thread ratings == Reverse panda cowgirl.


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But does it still cost only $25 L? ::Jonesing for some panda pie::

Historically? Yes.

Lately, consisitantly? No.

I honestly believe this thread should not of been moved. OR Move other off topic threads as well.

My 2L$

Going on my experience on other forums, yes topics related to the management of the forum aren't welcome in the general discussion forum. That is because a forum has as goal to discuss a other subject instead of it's own existence. And the general here is very cleary intented to discuss general secondlife issues. Not forum policy.
Most of the time their is a seperate forum for those kind of issues, or it is done in offtopic like here.

Except that it ISN'T done in off-topic here, Frans.

I invite you to peruse the general forums. Of the many threads about the topic, the only one such topic that still isn't there is my own thread.

coco

P.S. However, I'm willing to accept that it was some fluke or mistake of the transfer over and/or the way the boards are working. I will accept that reason - but no other.

I vote we open forums to discuss the SL forums!

Or possibly new ones to discuss SL since, according to the email notifications these are the "Second Life Forums Forums".

I wish there would be more attention paid to getting the proper threads moved into/from General, Off Topic, and Notices and Well Wishes. The face that Co, Co and Co could place such a thread in General is an outrage. I can't believe it took so long to have it expunged. If you're not careful, this whole thing is going to go up in smoke.

And AJ, it is simply not proper to discuss the forums in the forums. Nor is it proper to discuss policy...any policy...government policy, foreign policy, forum policy, whatever. You people have no manners. I am so sickened that I could barely get myself together to post this. At this rate, I will have no rum with which to rinse my mouth tomorrow morn.

I'm sorry Gabe, but I just feel these things must be discussed for the good of the community! Report me if you want - but I WILL NOT LET THIS DIE!!

And another thing - the only people starting threads in the Second Life Answers forum are asking questions! Can they not read the title of the forum?!?

Yea, i agree. Untill now it wasn't really enforced much. And also that yours was picked randomly out of other threads was strange.

But i do think that there should be a differen't place to discuss forum policy. Especially now with the current growth rate, the forum will become busier and busier and it helps to have topics sectioned off more clearly.

Why?

Are not the forums an aspect of Second Life?

hehe

This is the description for the forums:

General: Discuss your ideas and observations about SL
Off-Topic: Discuss your ideas and observatins about the real world

Now in every other place I have ever been in, "off-topic" generally referred to anything and everything that wasn't game related. Politics, celebrities, hurricanes, the changing of one's rl name, Michael Jackson wearing women's robes, etc.

The most probable reason that my thread was moved and not any of the others is that my thread attracted abuse reports, and the others probably didn't.

Jeska probably reacted to that abuse report and ruled on it somewhat in a vacuum, unaware that there were other such threads still sitting there. If she found out later that there were, then she apparently doesn't care to move the others, or move mine back.

This, ladies and germs, is the power of the abuse report! Use it against those you'd rather never hear from again! And the more you and your friends send in, the better!

Here's a tip: If someone ever says, "Wow! Just . . . wow!" that's your cue! Hop right on that AR bandwagon, everybody else is doing it!

coco

What would have consistuted a personal attack in this thread? It seems pretty mild by comparison to most. Even Enabran is subdued.

What's worse than the new resmod thing is the co-opting of the situation by some, to try and build a story that ARs are the reason for everything. Yes, classic evasion of responsibilties for whether or not one is well liked.

We do not have a right to be liked.

Regardless of what took place "everywhere else in my life", I don't demand nor expect that people like me, or treat me "pleasantly".

Mr. Rogers doesn't live here.

No, this thread wasn't moved because of any personal attack. It was moved for being a "meta-discussion" - of the new resmod system. As opposed to all the other threads about the resmod system still in general.

It was Talen's thread that was apparently deleted entirely due to a personal attack (but I never saw one in it).

coco

P.S. People can AR because a thread is in the wrong place, too, Cristiano, and that may have happened. Or - could be just one of the mods decided this thread (as opposed to all the others) was in the wrong place. Who knows? But no personal attack reason was ever given. Jeska only said (somewhere above) that it needed to be moved cause it was a "meta-discussion."

No, it wasn't moved for a personal attack. In my opinion it was moved because it was critical of the new system, AND NO OTHER REASON. Which is BAD.

I think that this thread should not have been moved, and there are many, many precedent threads which discussed the state of the forums and/or moderation in GENERAL before.

Coco, I highly doubt that this thread was moved because people ARed this thread due to the fact that they may not like you.

And, for the record, I have never ARed you. You do annoy me at times, and I am sure that goes both ways, but I have never felt compelled to report you. This is because I will only report if I think there are REAL personal attacks or an obvious CS, ToS, or Guidelines infraction.

All this stuff about ARing groups getting together to shut people down is just speculation. Not to mention, you haven't been shut down by any stretch of the imagination, nor do I think more than a couple people think you should be, and that doesn't include me.

Then explain this.

Here's what happened:

This thread got moved.
Jeska said it should be moved, for being a meta-discussion.
The other, similar threads were not moved.

OK - somehow, somewhere, this decision was made. So which is it?

a. Somebody ar'd it for being off-topic.
b. A mod sent it to Jeska cause the mod was off-topic.
c. Jeska herself saw it and decided it was off-topic and moved it herself.

All we know for certain is that Jeska declared it off-topic, and that it was moved. We don't know the order of anything, or who did what.

My guess is that someone AR'd it, which was then brought to Jeska's attention, and she agreed it was off-topic, and it was moved (either before or after she deemed it off-topic, not sure). And that Jeska herself did not notice all the other similar threads which still sat there in General.

You'll notice that my interpretation about what was probable actually makes Jeska look good, and it makes the resmods look good.

If this was done specifically against me, by either the resmods or by Jeska (and I don't discount either possibility), in full knowledge that other threads on the resmod topic were allowed to stay, then that is even worse.

Hence, I prefer to think that my thread just got reported by somebody who ISN'T actually a resmod or Jeska, and that Jeska was acting in somewhat of a vacuum.

How would you prefer to interpret it?

Now somebody may have reported ALL those threads for being off-topic, and not just mine. But still - somewhere along the line - it was only mine that got moved.

coco

CocoCo, i know the movement of this thread alone is a bit disconcerting and brings up the question of why is this the only one moved to Off Topic.. and it's a valid point indeed.

however, the reason it's staying here may be a fairly simple one. perhaps the ResMods are wary of touching it. whether Jeska moved it or not, only one person knows (as far as i know) who moved it. so, if it was a ResMod, then the rest of us might be thinking, "well, what if Jeska moved it? i probably shouldn't move it back in that case". to be honest, that's my position.. i definitely don't want to appear as attempting to suprcede Jeska's authority.

if it was Jeska who moved it, i'd say it's up to her to move it back. if it was a ResMod, then they should be the one to move it.. or ask Jeska to do so.

either way, i agree with the bulk of everyone here.. it seems like it does, in fact, belong back in General. but it's a decision that will have to either be collectively made by the ResMods or addressed by Jeska, or a combination of both.

Jeska stated here that discussions about the forums do in fact belong in General, not Off-Topic:

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Based upon that criteria, it should be moved back to the General forums. It was bad enough this thread was oddly singled out. Why is it so difficult to move a thread? This one was certainly moved fast enough - why does it now take some committee action to get it put back where it should have stayed in the first place?

fair is fair and i agree that with the new definite classification about meta-discussions that this thread does technically belong in General. as such, i have moved it back.

my original statement about discussing it with other ResMods and/or Jeska was before i knew of the statement by Jeska about meta-discussions belonging in General. i'm not sure how i missed that, but.. now i know.

One might not be able to rate threads, but one can point out a good thread to the resident moderators and they might well rate the thread positively.

And pigs may fly backwards out of my ass... (checking)

Thank you, Cybin!

That WOULD give me hope!

I say WOULD because as you can CLEARLY SEE, a RESMOD has decided to RATE THIS THREAD and has given it TWO STARS.

And why? BECAUSE THEY CAN.

Now isn't that funny. NOT.

How professional.

Shows the petty mentality of at least one resmod.

Proves my damn point.

Know what? I actually get kind of TIRED of having people prove my damn points around here all the time.

coco

Allow me to take part of that BACK - TWO resmods have rated this thread. (And it wasn't a one and a five.) "Yeah, ok, somebody moved Coco's thread back, but we'll show her what we actually THINK about it." And stamped it BAD.

Puke, gag me with a spoon, and give me a frickin BREAK.

You know what? I RESENT being MODDED by CHILDREN. It's a total insult and a clear indication that I am wasting my time.

It's no fricken WONDER nothing has improved around here in the past year. Just look at the freakin mentality.

Pitiful. PATHETIC.

Philip, I hope you're proud.

coco

P.S. Lindens, you need to check to see which mod did this - and I know you can - and FIRE THEM. And sooner rather than later, unless you want the entire world to see that this show is being run by BABIES.