Defining the FIC (Seriously)

Err, its called a private island Yumi, Bedazzle do own their own sim which they pay for

So not only does opportunity have to be offered to everyone, it has to -sell- itself to people too unimaginative to realize it's potential, or too uninclined to put in the work that is required to truly take advantage of it.



Then why are unsuccessful people never labeled as FIC? Why is it that there isn't a single successful person on SL who hasn't been accused of being FIC or selling out to the FIC? Success, in the minds of many, is exactly what it means to be FIC.




Anyone can start in SL. It's free. Get in, learn how to do something you have talent in. Do well at it, work hard. Anyone can start up a store. Anyone can do those smaller publicly announced jobs or contests to build up their resume, anyone can earn the credibility needed to be considered for larger jobs. Anyone can use a free paint program or the free SL animator program. Anyone can sit and play with prims. That is... anyone willing to put in a serious effort.

(Btw, there is a cap on how many PhDs can be taken by any University, it's limited by funding and by professors willing to take on a PhD student. Fully qualified applicants with the ability get turned down all the time because there is only space for the -best- of the fully qualified applicants, at least that's how it work in America and Canada)

Just because all people accused of being FIC are successful, does not mean everyone successful is accused of being FIC! And I really don't think that every successful person on SL has been accused of being FIC. Possibly the famous ones have, but that only shows that being famous is "exactly what it means to be FIC", which is a lot closer to the definition that appears (to me!) to be used these days.



But not anyone can be known for such. The film The Incredibles pointed out the problem perfectly: "If everyone's special, no-one is."

Anyone willing to really work to build a new or superior item, and willing to market that item, can be known for it. You're right, not everyone can be known for stuff. But everyone -who wants to- can work for it and achieve it.

As for FIC accusations, just look back over the thread, several people who are successful have come forward and said they've been accused of being FIC. Someone could be sleeping with all the Lindens and not be FIC. It's being successful, and the urge of other people to blame their own lack of success on those who do achieve it, that brings FIC accusations.

but what about in the movie Pinochio?:

When you wish upon a star, makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires will come to you

If your heart is in your dreams, no request is too extreme
When you wish upon a star as dreamers do

(Fate is kind, she brings to those who love
The sweet fulfillment of their secret longing)

Like a bolt out of the blue, fate steps in and sees you thru
When you wish upon a star, your dreams come true

The problem is that you're glossing over the possibility here. You seem to be saying that if anyone doesn't get known, then they didn't work hard enough. And how hard is hard enough? Hard enough that they get noticed, of course! But this is just disregarding the possibility of someone working hard and not getting known, so of course it becomes impossible to discuss it. If you use a mental model which can't admit that course of events occuring, then you'll never see it, even if it's there; and conversely you won't notice its absence if it isn't.



The big problem with this is that the person who invented the term FIC is successful!

Don't waste your time. The failure fetishist will discover a means losing with the same alacrity that water discovers any means at all of leaking.

Is there any way I could get quote that embroidered on a pillow??

This theory, that there are people who make active effort to fail, seems so irrational and outlandish that I'm amazed it seems to be accepted without challenge! Why on earth, then, would anyone become a "failure fetishist?"

It's not an active effort to fail. It's an effort to make excuses not to succeed. Obviously, it's easier to declare success impossible than to actually achieve it. Path of least resistance, perhaps.



I dunno. Every time I ask you, you either ignore the question or vacillate. I don't have a very firm grasp of psychology, so I'm not really going to hazard a guess myself. The problem exists -- its root is ancient and, really, irrelevant to my purposes.

Technically, a lot of things seem outlandish and irrational to me, and yet people still do them... sadism, psychology students, christianity.... Just because I think it's outlandish and irrational doesn't mean someone else has an entirely different take.

No one views themselves as a failure fetishist... they are poor poor victims! Victims of the FIC! Victims of Lindens who don't bow down to them! Victims of tasteless SLers who refuse to buy their products!

OMG I need to get a life I can't belive I just read through all this drivel.

If you use a mental model which can't admit that your failure is your own fault, not outsiders oppressing you, then you'll never see it, even if it's there; and conversely, you won't notice it's absence if it isn't.

If you've failed in SL there was either a problem with your effort, your product or your marketing. Go pick a new product or marketing strategy and start again making sure you're working at it. Whee! Capitalism. The "FIC" I know work pretty much a full time day in SL on top of their RL endevours, they've worked in several areas of SL until they found their niche. Do you know of someone who's products have totally failed who works that hard?



The apparent hypocracy of the term being created by that person has been theorized by others in this thread at length. I'm not even going there.

wow is this argument still going on?

As far as I can see, some people here like to tilt at windmills, just in CASE they turn into goblins. It can happen any second now, so keep your eye on the ball!

DEAR GOD IT"S A GOBLIMILLBALL!!!

F.I.C.: Stands for Feted Inner Core.

Meaning: A group of people who, due to their closeness to the Lindens (for whatever reasons, and for however long), receive special perks, privileges, and projects.

Solution: Processes through which everyone has equal opportunity to be considered for those perks, privileges, and projects.

coco

I used to know lindens, but this game has lost its interest for me, i no longer can stay up all night playing

F.I.C = Fucking Important Cunt.

It's like a VIP - only blue collar.

So it can be used as a verb too?

LOL don't see why not - It can be the verb for cybering a Linden.

Your solution would only create more fic once they are chosen for projects. I've already heard the developers list being bashed here more than once. So insulting to those who are on it.

What if you were a good cook and you knew Julia Childs? And everyone accused you of only being a good cook because of your relationship with Julia Childs? And completely overlooked and ignored the fact that you had been to cooking school, had spent countless hours experimenting, and perfecting your cooking skills, and all you ended up with was smart alec remarks from people about how you didn't really deserve any recognition or offers to work as a cook at a restaurant?. How would you feel about that coco?

But I can admit that. I do, however, have trouble with the belief that people make an active choice to embrace failure for no rational reason, which seems to be what several arguments here are depending on.



None of which necessarily indicate a lack of work - they might just have worked hard at the wrong thing.



Unfortunately this question is confunded - if someone's products totally failed how would anyone else have heard of them, no matter how much work they did? That doesn't mean they don't exist.

If you don't have even a layman's understanding of basic human psychology, and why some people are optimists while others are pesimists, or even nihilists, then how exactly can anyone explain to you why some people do, indeed, embrace failure? What's the rational reason behind depression, or anorexia, or nervous giggles, or apathy, or being overly-sensative? Why do some people fear commitment while others long to be part of a couple before they've even met someone? Why do some people see a bright and hopeful future while others are sure they'll die cold and alone?

The questions you're asking have nothing to do with second life, but rather with psychology. If someone is an Eyeore in RL, they'll be an Eyeore in SL, too.

Margaret says I will have this fate.



Now, that is the magic word!