Defining the FIC (Seriously)

The people out there doing stuff - well they're too busy DOING stuff to bitch about it.. they don't have people to blame for whatever - because they are making - doing - advancing. A lot of them are positive and hard working.

It's not thier job to pep-talk the naysayers and the folks on their arses whining that everyone else is treated special.. They are busy BEING special in their own way.

What you have is a loud negative MINORITY... and whats more the REALLY active folks don't have time for the forums.. I usually only post from work (as I am now).

So a small group of folks sit around and squander time and energy making up theories why they're not making it like the rest - and the truth is if they spent half that energy doing.. they'd be on their way.

But you seem to be missing the key question I'm asking, which is why the negative people do this? If it's really true they could "be" on their way with half as much effort (and therefore "not being prepared to make effort" can't be the problem) then why do they become negative in the first place? Were they a negative-type person in the first place - or did SL make them that way?

But you seem to be missing the key question I'm asking, which is why the negative people do this? If it's really true they could "be" on their way with half as much effort (and therefore "not being prepared to make effort" can't be the problem) then why do they become negative in the first place? Were they a negative-type person in the first place - or did SL make them that way?

I blame the forums for Siggy's desire to shout "cunt" alot.

Actually thats my mothers influence

in her words 'I have one so I can say it as much as I fucking want!'

Seems to me the only 'fair' way that noone would say was 'rigged'

No matter how you do it - someone will bitch - the only bonus is the job probably won't get done.

What if some investors in a new wing of the University wanted it built top quality, professionally, and ASAP, and the Dean happened to know of an architecture firm that exactly fit that description? Should the University try and put the investors off until they had a chance to maybe make a contest out of it, or to interview every architecture firm in their area?

No. It's business. They should do whatever they need to do to get the job done quickly and professionally.

Wow, I wonder what people complaining about the lack of an open bidding system think about the real world job industry then. It must be horribly oppressing. I mean, a vast majority of positions are never advertised for the general public. They are hired out in company, to people who have searched out the job or to people who heard about the opening through friends/family/professional contacts. How FICish. Companies will even give preference to people with experience on their resumes instead of hiring the guy who is excited, but wet behind the ears and you have no clue what he can do.

The thing that leaves some SLers unmotivated and unwilling to put forth the effort is human nature. The same human nature that encourages people irl to glare at Bill Gates, when they themselves would have sat on their hands if given the same opportunities. Just look at how many 'recent' residents ascend to the rank of 'FIC'. If FIC existed, that wouldn't be possible.

For the new land promotion that's been brought up, from what little I've heard about it it seems to require people with a lot of knowledge and experience with land dealings/management in SL. Since the Lindens can just look up who has owned decent sizes of land for long enough to have gained this experience, it makes sense for them to pick those people, not to audition all the people who haven't proven themselves. If I'm looking for someone with a PhD, I'm not going to advertise for a bunch of high school/college graduates to plug up my search.

What an inordinately dull topic of conversation.

You here waiting for the page 20 cowbell too?

I dunno. I want to muster something constructive to say, but it's all the same whining that has been happening for ten or more months. It's just stupid and exhausting. And mostly irrelevant.

God damn. People should go to the library or something. Take a walk. Watch soap operas.

The thing that leaves some SLers unmotivated and unwilling to put forth the effort is human nature. The same human nature that encourages people irl to glare at Bill Gates, when they themselves would have sat on their hands if given the same opportunities.

Just look at how many 'recent' residents ascend to the rank of 'FIC'. If FIC existed, that wouldn't be possible.

If I'm looking for someone with a PhD, I'm not going to advertise for a bunch of high school/college graduates to plug up my search.

Coco, that approach is fine and dandy for small projects like the ones you are talking about. My reference though was to the large jobs that occasionaly go for accused FIC (though they also go to non-FIC, but that's always ignored).

Why should they be announced to the general public?

Edit: People don't complain about the small things that everyone, including the occasional FIC, get to do. They complain about the large, often lucrative, projects. This is why I'm limiting my arguement to these projects.

Coco, that approach is fine and dandy for small projects like the ones you are talking about. My reference though was to the large jobs that occasionaly go for accused FIC (though they also go to non-FIC, but that's always ignored).

Why should they be announced to the general public?

Edit: People don't complain about the small things that everyone, including the occasional FIC, get to do. They complain about the large, often lucrative, projects. This is why I'm limiting my arguement to these projects.

Well, that's a bit confusing really.. When Microsoft was founded, it was just another software company. The big break responsible for its success was that it was asked by IBM to write an operating system. Do you really think the majority of people would have turned down a customer like that?

Well, if FIC doesn't exist then by that logic it's not possible either. I'm not quite sure what you mean by recent residents, but there's huge bunch of different scales for that.

That's true, but equally anyone (who has a degree at least) can apply to do a PhD and once you have it you have a certificate you can show to anyoe. SL doesn't really have qualifications of that kind (I've seen them suggested but it's impossible to decide who gets to mark them) and although you can work on things yourself, it's not guaranteed to get noticed, even if it's good.

Yes, frankly. There are plenty of people who would have quaked at the offer and gone running rather than do the work required of it. Or worse, take the offer and then not put the work in. A majority of people are just not that dedicated or driven. People turn down amazing opportunities every day. RIM (research in motion = the blackberry) spawned out of my University. But how many people at the time took the opportunity when they were looking for their first developers? Very few.

Under six months is generally what I refer to as recent, and plenty of them have thriving stores.

Anyone -who has a degree- can apply for a PhD program. Anyone who has put in 4 years of serious effort and recieved marks generally above 80%, can apply. You have to prove yourself before you can run out and do it. Just about everything coveted in the world has requirements you have to meet in order to get it, or most often, to even apply to get it.

How many of the "famous" machinima makers have had problems with an Impeach Bush cube floating behind their set? So, if they can avoid that on their land, why can't we all?

At the moment, no matter how good you are, you can't get a "PhD in building" certificate and then mail it to Linden Labs when they call for offers. Instead, you have to have been noticed by them before - and there's only so many of them, and they have their own work to do, and thus the number of people they can notice is finite, and does not scale with the population or the skill of builders available. The prerequisite is difficult to access and can be artificially exhausted

How many of the "famous" machinima makers have had problems with an Impeach Bush cube floating behind their set? So, if they can avoid that on their land, why can't we all?