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Psyra Extraordinaire
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04-12-2006 10:24
From: Corvus Drake
I think this will be a lot more like The Elder Scrolls than you think it will be. Particularly, like Oblivion.


That would be nice... as long as people are refrained from walking up to doors and disappearing into them instead of going through them" ;D



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Psyra Extraordinaire
Corra Nacunda Chieftain
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04-12-2006 10:24
From: Corvus Drake
I think this will be a lot more like The Elder Scrolls than you think it will be. Particularly, like Oblivion.


That would be nice... as long as people are refrained from walking up to doors and disappearing into them instead of going through them" ;D



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Corvus Drake
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Join date: 12 Feb 2006
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04-12-2006 10:25
LOL I wouldn't do the "zoning" concept unless it was, say, a door that led to an "elevator" that teleports.
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 11:02
OK ladies and gents, I've about got the government system resolved. Making a new thread to poll in more detail.
Argent Stonecutter
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Have a look at RP Muds and Mucks
04-12-2006 11:40
The one I spent most time in was Puzzlebox, which was set in a edge-of-singularity universe with a population living in an artificial habitat run by a possibly-transcendant AI called Puzzlebox. The habitat was divided into six zones with different sets of rules and different approaches to technology... for example one was very dark, like a post-apocalyptic cyberpunk, another was run with a rigid technocratic society and caste system, and another had fallen to a nanotechnological plague that was trying to infiltrate the rest of Puzzlebox by infecting naive or unwary citizens of other zones.

This kind of RP is possible IN SL, without creating new zones, with some kind of scripted HUD to monitor folks and cooperatively apply zone rules... you could declare your land as being part of a particular zone simply by putting objects with the zone's name on it on your land. Details about your part of the zone (eg, local gravity) could be transmitted to the HUD with listens.

Taking off the HUD would mean you weren't aware of the zone, but you could still interact in-role. That is, it should be a tool to help you play the role, no more.
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 11:59
What I have thus far is styled in a similar manner to TES: Oblivion, but the problem is that it essentially NEEDS a sim in that incarnation.


What I really need is something that makes sense without a Sim, and even more sense with one.
Patroklus Murakami
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Join date: 17 Sep 2005
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Gethen anyone?
04-12-2006 12:11
I know this is a bit of a tangent from the discussion so far.. but I'd love to see a recreation of Winter/Gethen from Ursula LeGuin's 'The Left Hand of Darkness', one of my favourite books.

See you in the Kemmer House!
Cilis Nephilim
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04-12-2006 12:28
Something as a heads up on preformance.

The patch that introduces the new lighting will also producing culling, as in it will render more like a FPS in the future (as in, only if you can "see" it will you "see" it)

Basically, obivion uses LoD to show buildings from a distance, but maybe if we got some good screen shots with debug>highres screenshots enabled, we could make barriers in the sky that show the buildings, not only would this increase FPS but it'd let us have towers you can see from a distance.... once the new system is out there people might be able to turn up their draw distances.
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 12:31
From: Cilis Nephilim
Something as a heads up on preformance.

The patch that introduces the new lighting will also producing culling, as in it will render more like a FPS in the future (as in, only if you can "see" it will you "see" it)

Basically, obivion uses LoD to show buildings from a distance, but maybe if we got some good screen shots with debug>highres screenshots enabled, we could make barriers in the sky that show the buildings, not only would this increase FPS but it'd let us have towers you can see from a distance.... once the new system is out there people might be able to turn up their draw distances.



OOOh and we won't have to worry about GLIntercept thieves with that....

What i'm considering is creating those barriers for multiple parcels that "box" them in, and using teleporters to create "zoning" until someone out there decides to put together an island.
remamian Takashi
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Werewolves and Vampires
04-12-2006 12:36
Im up for this if it was ever created, almost with the basis from the movie 'Underworld' but without some of the bad lines and such *giggles*
Artemis Fate
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04-12-2006 12:41
From: Vivianne Draper

I mean no one started a poll to say "hey should we put up gorean sims?" There was interest and so it got started. If people actually wanted something different, seems to me like they would have implemented it by now. And it isn't as if they haven't tried... take Nexus Prime for example. Great build, fantastic place. You'd have thought some great RP would have sprung up around the sim. But it didn't -- damn near everytime I go there its empty. And I'm not talking just a few people empty -- i'm talking totally devoid of anyone but myself.


I'm there often, but I think a sim or place needs one or both of two things to be consitantly popular: Sex and Money. Nexus Prime has neither. But clubs have free money and sometimes sex and Gor is full of sex. So both end up being popular.

But *shrug* not popular in a good way I think, then you just get people obsessed with sex and money. Atleast the people who do occassionally come to Nexus Prime and stay are generally intelligent and creative. It's kind of like a filtering process, it filters out all the people with low attention spans, morons, sex obsessed people here to satisfy kinks, or people looking to get rich off Second Life.

Unfortunately that seems to filter out 99% of people.
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remamian Takashi
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Werewolves and Vampires
04-12-2006 12:43
Actually i would be completely up for this, 10,000sq/m owned in sundana, and nearly the entire sim is for sale. Id be willing to support the vampire cause ill start working on a layout for a mansion if this does pass as a viable RP community. I think it would work and i know many who would be involved. If this doesnt pass id still be willng to create it if you are willing to contact me and i will start a team to work on the details.
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 12:59
We're going to include Lycanthropy as a mutation and Vampiric Porphyric Hemophilia as a disease, so we're literally including some of everything in this. They won't be a primary theme, but instead a source of secrecy and intrigue. Still interested in helping with the land?
Cilis Nephilim
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04-12-2006 13:11
From: Corvus Drake
OOOh and we won't have to worry about GLIntercept thieves with that....

What i'm considering is creating those barriers for multiple parcels that "box" them in, and using teleporters to create "zoning" until someone out there decides to put together an island.



Yup ^^ old school sky boxes, and the best part is everything behind them wont render for you since you wouldnt see it anyone

I have a lot of love for culling, its going to free up so many cycles on our GPU's

I like the vampirism/were-ism but since we're using SLs base for all our races, will we mostly define how the infected people are known to behave and act?

I think if we have RPG style combat linked to character gems, we could provide some insentives to play infected characters.
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 13:18
I'm poor with object scripting right now. I'm more focused on establishing the races.

For that purpose, I want to keep it simple. Humans, Mutants, Ataken (think droids), and Cybrids (mix and match with cybernetic implants). I figure if we make a universal zoology for monsters and such later, then we open the door for new mutations, so we get the unique races you crave.

I agree with infectious combat systems but that needs to come later.
Aldo Stern
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Join date: 15 Jan 2005
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04-12-2006 13:47
Just a thought--I didn't notice anyone mentioning working in a role for the tribes of Panther girls/Taluna women warriors from the Gor sims. They would probably get a big kick out of being able to bring their particular brand of male-bashing chutzpa and mayhem-making to another rp scenario. In fact, I find it odd that they don't get mentioned much at all in the whole Gor discussion, as they are wildly enthusiastic and great fun to be around as they lay out huge containers of whoopass in their ongoing conflict with the predominant social structure. I always found them to be a much more intriguing aspect of Gorean culture than the curious insitutution of slavery (which incidentally, the women warriors also practice, generally with men they capture in combat).

But then I also hope we could figure out a way of working in a role for a wandering madman or two.

Anyway, this whole concept of a new original and inclusive rp setting sounds like a lot of fun. I think the way it is being discussed would be practical too, as it seems like people are thinking about situations and environments for which existing clothing, weapons, accesories, furniture and fixtures, structures etc. could all be used quite readily. There is after all, a plethora of "stuff" in SL, while we sometimes seem to suffer from a shartage of socially-driven ideas like this one. My compliments to the OP for putting it out there.
Psyra Extraordinaire
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Join date: 24 Jul 2004
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04-12-2006 13:49
From: Corvus Drake
I'm poor with object scripting right now. I'm more focused on establishing the races.

For that purpose, I want to keep it simple. Humans, Mutants, Ataken (think droids), and Cybrids (mix and match with cybernetic implants). I figure if we make a universal zoology for monsters and such later, then we open the door for new mutations, so we get the unique races you crave.

I agree with infectious combat systems but that needs to come later.


Doh. *wanders outta the thread... heh*
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Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 13:52
From: Aldo Stern
Just a thought--I didn't notice anyone mentioning working in a role for the tribes of Panther girls/Taluna women warriors from the Gor sims. They would probably get a big kick out of being able to bring their particular brand of male-bashing chutzpa and mayhem-making to another rp scenario. In fact, I find it odd that they don't get mentioned much at all in the whole Gor discussion, as they are wildly enthusiastic and great fun to be around as they lay out huge containers of whoopass in their ongoing conflict with the predominant social structure. I always found them to be a much more intriguing aspect of Gorean culture than the curious insitutution of slavery (which incidentally, the women warriors also practice, generally with men they capture in combat).

But then I also hope we could figure out a way of working in a role for a wandering madman or two.

Anyway, this whole concept of a new original and inclusive rp setting sounds like a lot of fun. I think the way it is being discussed would be practical too, as it seems like people are thinking about situations and environments for which existing clothing, weapons, accesories, furniture and fixtures, structures etc. could all be used quite readily. There is after all, a plethora of "stuff" in SL, while we sometimes seem to suffer from a shartage of socially-driven ideas like this one. My compliments to the OP for putting it out there.


There's going to be a total bastardization of the Panthergirls to let them just waltz from that venue over to this one, but with slight dogmatic differences. More along the lines of literal angry kitties that consider males commodities, etc. The RP backgrounds will come in time ;P
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 14:24
FYI all I'm working on in-city culture first. out of city will just be a lack thereof.
remamian Takashi
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04-12-2006 18:22
From: Corvus Drake
We're going to include Lycanthropy as a mutation and Vampiric Porphyric Hemophilia as a disease, so we're literally including some of everything in this. They won't be a primary theme, but instead a source of secrecy and intrigue. Still interested in helping with the land?


If you can contact me in game itll be easyer for me to discuss this. remamian Takashi or Yahsotigi Takashi and i have a large portion of a 50x60 mansion finished already
Cilis Nephilim
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04-12-2006 20:27
It has a lot of promise and I might be able to donate per month to help cover the costs of a few parcels, I would have to see it all written out in an outline at least though. You know how anal rentitve I am about my feelings on certain subjects, mainly I understand the need for BDSM relationships, it its many flavors, for roleplay... I just want to give as much power to the women as the men, and I also want to make sure everyone that comes into the game gets an earful on safty in order to feel comfortable supporting it.

I dunno, once a friend gets abused your perspective grows to include safty measures heh.
Corvus Drake
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04-12-2006 21:08
Well, the entire first draft of the whole system is pretty much done if you want to see it. I did it at work today, and FUCK am I tired....
Magnum Serpentine
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04-13-2006 00:45
From: Corvus Drake
That was easily the funniest damn thing I've ever read on this forum.



I don't think this whole concept is funny. Infact... Its an attack on a Lifestyle.
Magnum Serpentine
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04-13-2006 00:49
From: Corvus Drake
How about this?

Instead of saying yourself or your title, maybe signifying the ownership? For instance, my slave would call herself "Corvus's Pet" or something.


I have a better ideal...

Why not leave the Goreans ALONE. wow thats origional and novel. Sounds good to me.
Corvus Drake
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04-13-2006 04:38
So creation of a total alternative to Gor, allowing some similarities but avoiding things that people generally dislike about Gor, is an attack on the Gorean lifestyle?

Isn't that a bit like a fundamentalist saying that allowing Pagan religion to be practiced legally is somehow an assault on all Christians?


Again, someone who also didn't ask me for the notecard.
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