Want to read something to make your hair curl?

Of course, srekcoR is one of the bannees so I expect him to come up with a lame defense. I should amend the AR for "suspicion of underage" based on his masterful command of the language *cough*.

But Grits, I expected better of you. I took you for an intelligent person and here you are with "teh gay"?

I would hazard a guess that you're 14.

Lewis

Okay,

"It's nothing to do with "a dozen kids", it's the fact that those "dozen kids" are under age to be on the adult grid."

Point A: The underage guy you banned was 17. Good call, I guess, until he turns 18 in a few weeks.

Point B: He's the only, "underage" person there is. So the point that because he is underage, then that must mean all of the people he knows are underage, is lost on me. Maybe you guys could explain it to me. I don't see it.

Making gross assumptions about things you haven't bothered to look into or even had the good sense to ask about, will always get a lackluster response from me.

Cindi - I'm glad you took me for an intelligent person, but then again here you are on the forum saying all the people he was with were "absolute morons -- with guns." Then go on to degrade us further by quoting things like "posse" and "crew"...

Yes we found the thread that was directed towards us, we found it because someone came up to me in SL and told me she had already heard about me. Again I find it funny that you guys can sit here on your faux high horse, make little quips and judgements, and then if anyone gets on here and defends themselves, you have to put them down like we aren't invited into your little shittalking club.

Sorry people, just because you've been on this thing longer than other people does not make you vastly superior, ahead of the curve maybe? Still though, you guys remind me of kids on Myspace acting like they're better then the other people because they've been on since 2004. We're all impressed, really.

Grits

And he's been banned for around a month already. Point being he lied to get on the adult grid.


It's behavior. Of all the 12Ozers i've met, you are the only one who can even put a sentence together. The rest of the stuff posted on your group's website sounded like kids fantasizing about their own poop, which is decidedly infantile.


Actually, by visiting your board I did look into it. I didn't like what I saw.

Note that there are still a couple of you from 12Oz that are not banned. I have not banned based on association, I ban on behavior and age. Even the underage didn't get banned and AR'd until he openly admitted he wasn't 18 yet - until then he had always behaved himself. I can't say the same for some of your other friends.


What other conclusion should we take from reading your board? My 14 year old son would fit right in with some of your group.


The larger concern, in case you missed it (and I'm assuming you have since you only have a couple of posts) has been the invasion of underage kids on the adult grid since registration opened up on 6/6, along with the immature behavior and griefing they tend to bring with them. There's a reason we sit in judgment of idiots who talk about making scatalogical animations just so they can poop on someone's land, or want to know right away if they can bomb people. We don't want them on our land.

I don't care if you all are impressed or not. Behave yourself and we don't have a problem. Act up and you won't be coming back.

Yes the amount of my posts directly attributes to how much information my brain can hold. Good point.

My larger point in case you missed it, which I assume you did, since you answered comments I made that were directed at someone else...

Dispite immaturity, none of those guys are under 18. So your underage point is mute now.

Next...

You looked at and quoted posts of people who didn't even end up getting on the game. Yes there were people asking about killing people and robbing people and all sorts of crazy insane things, then when they found out you couldn't, THEY DIDN'T JOIN. Okay, minus the moderator, who you quoted about the (obviously joking) shitting script, then went on to say he wasn't that bad. At least he understood the potential.

Next...

I wasn't talking to you about banning based on association. I was talking to Lewis about him making the assumption that everyone was underaged based on one person. It's okay to respond to everything I said, but since it didn't apply to you at all, I don't really know where to go with that.

Next...

You're reading a graffiti board and looking for intelligent conversation you can relate to, I'd pretty much guess you don't understand a good 60% of what is said, or what it's referring to. So I don't understand how you're going to make intelligent guesses about the collective IQ of the board. Sure there are lots of dumb people, but I bet it's nowhere NEAR the amount of idiots you have on this game. Next time you pop on I say you look at the pretty pictures, I stay in the EastBayShits thread myself.

And I'm sorry that my mods (again jokingly) shitting script didn't impress you, I guess it's hard to be original in a sea of fisting scripts, people dressing up as cats to fuck eacother, humping scripts, glitter (bling) scripts etc etc... He was making a joke lady. Lighten up.

Also I don't know what the actual policy is for this, but 18 being an adult age is kind of an American thing, ya know? I don't know if you actually took into consideration that the 17 year old you banned is a legal adult where he lives. And you said he's been banned for about a month, but you started this thread on the first, and it's only the 11th now.

Grits

Oh and the bomb thing!


bomb



(verb) the act of writing a grafitti tag in a highly visible public place.

"Tonight me and REA are going out bombing, you down?"

Graffiti site remember? Dude was asking if you could tag in the game, again not the most intelligent question, but HE HAD NEVER HEARD ABOUT THE GAME. That forum was all he knew about the game.

G

Say the word "bomb" on a plane. See what happens. I guarantee you their first thought won't be "graffiti".

He didn't say bomb on a plane though, he said bomb on a graffiti website.

The airline company can't go to a graffiti website and see the word bomb and arrest people, that's just not how it works in America. Maybe in Afganistan, but not here.


Grits

Land of the free.

SO this is like the Somethingawful.com goons except without the outrageous sense of humor?

Awesome.

Hi kids, bye kids.

<3

Grits, you're putting words in my mouth. I was assuming that you weren't aware of the widespread concern that the registration changes have caused among most of us -- and I based my assumption on the fact that you only came to this board when someone told you there was a thread about your clan. You aren't a regular here, how could I know how much you know about the atmosphere of concern that exists right now?


I'll assume you mean "moot", but no - I found out for certain one was 18. Many of the others on that board write with the vocabulary and attitude of kids. It's a logical assumption until shown otherwise.


Obviously joking? No, it wasn't obvious to me at all. And since you all use other screenames on your board there is no way to know how many of you actually joined SL. If the real idiots (except srekcoR) didn't join, that's good news. The lesson to be taken from this, however, is that people know you by who you associate with. If you want to be known as an intelligent, mature person, don't hang out with inarticulate morons who spout trite gangsta jargon to fit in.


"Lighten up" = the last refuge when you're out of arguments. I'm plenty light, but then I thought you already knew that after chatting with me in world enough. That said, making judgmental statements on how other people choose to spend their SL time is not going to endear you to many people. Kinda like using "teh gay" as a prejorative.


So I take it you haven't actually read the Lindens' TOS. Because it clearly states that, in Second Life, you are not allowed in the Mature Grid until you are 18. It's an American thing because Linden Labs is an American company.

Airline companies have no ability to enforce laws (at least in the US) that falls to federal, state and local law enforcment authorites. Now, the feds have been to look into just about anything lately that even remotely seems to be related to terrorism recently. (Patriot Act among others).

As a side note, you can get a vist from the feds. Just see how long it takes for your ISP to receive a subpeona from the Secret Service if you were to have a comment proposing harm to a [senior government official]. Free speach is all good and dandy, but when dealing with the security of a [senior government official], they check everything out.

You're right I did mean moot. But in my defense, it's 8:40 in the morning and I have yet to sleep.

I'm fairly aware of the problem you've been having with open registration, it comes to my attention anytime I go somewhere and people see my DOB. I guess you could say the mods shitting script wasn't OBVIOUS, but then again, if you read how highly he talked of the game you might of made the assumption. These kids, they might be 18, 19, 20... And maybe they aren't capable the most intelligent conversation, but they are still adults.

No i didn't read any part of the TOS referring to age because it didn't matter to me. I was just making a point, I understand it's an american company. Just making the point is all...

Lighten up is not my last argument, trust me I could argue forever based on nothing. It's really one of the main reasons I still even go on SL, I love to talk and argue and be judged and fight back, it's fun. Also I like to go to the sex houses and watch the xcite things, they crack me up to no end.

"YOU ARE HAVING A MULTIPLE ORGASM!"

Haha, those things, man, don't get me started... Oh, you didn't, moving on...

I was no more judging people for how they spend they're time then you were for judging my mod for wanting to make a shitting script, and let's be honest, if he was serious, it would probobly sell.

As far as hanging out with inarticulate morons and all that jazz, I don't, the people who I do hang out with are well versed, intelligent, fun people. My mod might possibly be one of the smartest people I've ever talked to. I guess you wouldn't gather that from his shitting script. But he's smart, I promise.

Srek, got lost in Gor sims. We tried to save him but it was too late.

Again, I just felt I needed to come on here and defend myself. Noone else was gonna stick up for teh n00bs.

Listen, about that pooping script... When you have pretty much all physical human behaviors emulated in SL, it's only logical that it'd happen. There is something inherently funny in importing basic necessary human functions into a world where they're absolutely not necessary. Nobody needs to go the bathroom in SL. Nobody needs to drink water either but that isn't stopping anybody from making drinking scripts. It's all in jest, there's a billion unique things in SL that have genuinely made me laugh out loud for their sheer silliness, and being able to take a dump I think would merit a spot amongst them. The poop would disappear anyways.

I genuinely like Second Life and think the potential is astounding (I'm that mod on the other board, if you haven't figured it out yet). I have some serious plans (including projects for real non-profits such as Amnesty International) that I believe hold a lot of promise and that I think all of you would agree perfectly fit in with the SL community. At the same time, besides being a true virtual world, we're all there to have fun. The other day I was very focused building my first creation at a sandbox, in no mood for idiocy, and some guys rolled by in a flying carpet, shot the hell out of everyone, and sent me tumbling down a cliff in a cylindrical cage.

I burst out in laughter. It was the silliest thing ever, and I knew they got a kick out of it. I laughed with them. I teleported back to the sandbox and resumed my building.

Cindy, I'm not responsible for the behavior of members of my board/group, and you can do as you damn well please, it's your choice. But please, for the love of Christ, try to be more selective on what exactly is behavior that hinders your enjoyment of the game, and above all, have a sense of humor. This is, after all, a virtual playground, and it doesn't hurt to get a bit in touch with that inner child who used to giggle at stupidity.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work. I need to finish soon if I want to log in , finish my boat, learn about setting up some serious business, and then go beg for lindens in a wheelchair and have a laugh.

Really really really far off topic. I see what you're saying, but the feds would be smart enough not to equate, "can you bomb" ,on a GRAFFITI site in reference to a VIDEO GAME, to "Let's commit acts of terror" in RL, which is what we are talking about in this thread. Again I see your point, but all it seems you did was make the point that it's not actually the Airline company that inforces the law, which trust me I understand.

Grits

He gets things.

i thought this was a game? right?

That actually seems to be very questionable in this circle.

It's best to just regard it as a "thingie". It avoids a lot of flame wars.

bleh, I'm bored at work, and didn't feel like really getting into the main argument as others are.

But sadly, I think you're giving the feds to much credit there.

A metagame perhaps?

It's a virtual world alright, but things don't have to be GAMES to be fun.

On the topic of bombing or whatever, I'm sure Carnivore flagged our site when it was around (there's also outspoken serious political discussion on our site). If there was any problem with our use of the word in the given context it would've come to our attention a loooooong time ago.

Welcome to SL, Mamski. But just so you know, that idea's already been taken. I saw the attachments for sale last night - if you want a landmark to the store, IM me. Maybe you can improve on it or just head in a different direction (I can hope!).


And that is very admirable, Mamski -- with the caveat that nobody's "fun" has a right to interfere with other people's fun. If people are caging you and throwing you off a cliff, it's harmless in a way but it's also not going to get them very far in SL and it does ruin a builder/scripter's concentration. Last week I was repeatedly tossed up and down from ground level to 200m for a good length of time. It was fun for a while, but I still AR'd the jerk who broke up our club gathering.


Who said this interferes with my enjoyment of SL? You and Grits seem to feel a need to invent my position for me, and you're both wrong. Grits is still more than welcome in our club as long as he behaves (which he has). Griefers don't ruin my SL, they're a challenge to overcome and frankly I have more fun ways I want to spend my time than adding to the ban list and turning in ARs.


That chat spam was funny to me too -- the first 50 times. Now I just mute XCite stuff and save myself the eye strain. I know a multiple orgasm when I see it, I don't need a script to tell me when I'm having fun (Although I tried the line "We don't have that poseball" on my RL husband and I got a dirty scowl for my trouble).

Metagame works, it's not quite the a Metaverse yet.

"GRITS WARILLA STARTS BREATHING HEAVILY"

12oz has probobly been targetted more than once at least by passerby FBI guys, We have some pretty heated politcal discussions there. Note: casek

"GRITS WARILLA IS SWEATING PROFUSELY"

Yay I'm still welcome in your club, maybe I'll remember which one when I wake up.

"GRITS WARILLA EJACULATES PREMATURELY, AGAIN. HE IS SPENT AND HE ROLLS OVER AND FALLS ASLEEP BEFORE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GET UPSET"

I'm not a performer.


Grits

Keeping it real since the early 80s

I came to the conclusion it interfered with your enjoyment, since the thread was titled the way it was and the statement was worded as a complaint. That said, thanks for the welcome, and abolutely, point me to where I can get that script. Of course I wasn't seriously gonna go ahead with creating it, after learning the basics I realized it's not worth the effort, but if it's available for modding I'm down.

The item in question is no-mod. But if you'd rather, I have landmarks to tons of free scripts you can use to learn with. It's how I'm doing it myself. I've disassembled guns, cars, and other free items that were modifiable just to see what made them click. One day I'll actually know what I'm doing.

The thread was started shortly after I had some bad experiences with some of your members (not Grits). Reading your board, I was appalled and felt compelled to draw a comparison between the open enrollment and the quality of members who are being drawn to SL. As usual, all generalizations are wrong. You have some dimwits among you but I'm sure you know who they are better than I do The rest of you, I have no quarrel with at all.

Team Handsome. Mams is a puerto rican stud. Mario Lopez style.

What were we talking about? We had 2 real dimwits, one bought a subscription and quit, and the other one is all Gor'd out now.

... If he's in Gor, his soul is lost

(j/k!)

Grits, go to bed!