We Can Create Our Own Last Names!!!!

Yeah I read your thread already.



Fraud eh? Hey while you're at it, you might want to sue McDonald's for overly hot coffee.

It's not the first time and it wont be the last time.

The problem is that Anshe has LL by the balls, she pays them a lot of money but even if LL didn't care about that, and they do, what happens if they're forced to ban her because of her numerous TOS violations? They'd have a few hundred angry and recently homeless rental land owners screaming at them.

As it is, all LL can do is hope that Anshe doesn't break too many ToS violations and that if she does they can cover it up. They already changed the ToS after Anshe went around telling people she bought an account and was looking for more.

So yes, companies give special treatment to high paying customers. It happens with all companies whether you hear about it or not and LL is no different. At this point Anshe could do pretty much anything short of change her business' name from Dreamland to "I hate black people", but she won't because that'd hurt her business.

Why thank you, Ingrid dearest. However, this does not answer the question of how Anshe has a custom last name. Cristiano Suicide will have to wait, though I will send them a topless photo anyway.

Secret police and famine?

So WHAT if Anshe gets banned. People renting/buying "her" sims simply move on. SL is anything but permanent--be prepared to lose EVERYTHING at once. LL isn't responsible (they even say so in the TOS). Screw Anshe--if she breaks the rules she should be treated like anyone else. LL could be sued otherwise...

Pretty soon it will be possible for anyone to change their last name, and also to create a new last name. Our current thinking is the features will look like this.

In a very few cases we have created last names for a group -- for a class participating in the Campus: Second Life program, for a web-based community that came en masse into Second Life, and in this case, for employees of a SL business. Typically there is a charge for this service.

The new features are scheduled for development next quarter. Once we actually get into the project we'll have a better sense for the final design and time for development.

So, if we have one surname for our avatar on our account, why should we change it for one of the groups we belong to? I'm not changing my av's last name just because I like dancing at a club, nor do I expect the members of my gallery vendors group to change their names.

This cute little feature really applies only to people who want to play house and pretend they're mother-father-kiddies-whatever, or to the Gorean master-slave folks, who think the sub member of a duo should adopt the name of the 'master'.

Everyone else is always trying to make SL into the equivalent of a 51st US state, with stock markets, mortgage banks and mortgages. This is one thing you DON'T have to change -- wives are no longer forced to take the husband's last name, so why don't we NOT do this?

I've thought once or twice that I would kinda like to change my av's last name, but not if I have to pay to form a group and have a minimum number of group members in order to do it.

Wow, with vision that short can you see past your nose? *Waves hand in front of your face* CAN YOU SEE THIS?!?!?!!?!?!?!


There are many legit business practices for this along with just some practical, and vanity uses. Example, you picked the name Fairplay long aGO because you thought it was cool and would be good for business but, some of the most famous crooks in SL have the last name Fairplay and you want to drop this last name like a bad habit. It would also be nice to seach for the last name "Hucci" and know anyone with that last name can help with the products of that company.



Grow up and stop being so judgemental. If someone wants to play house, as long as they aren't doing it with your spouse, it is really none of your damn business what they do.


CAN YOU SEE THIS?!?!?!!??!?!?!

OMG I can see griefters having a field day with name changes.....Just what we need more future problems or known problems players changing their IDs
I see fail safes but the in world lindens are really going to have have a hard "Holding the line" at times.
I just hope they have alot of back up plans incase people notice loop holes in the new system.

It seems there is some major confusion. Please allow me to clarify a couple of things.

Early this year we went "real life". This means we registered as a limited company, ANSHECHUNG Studios Ltd., and began to hire people in real life. That means real contracts, real benefits, real taxes, real office and so on. Our team now consists of 12 RL staff, plus Ailin and myself.

But pretty soon we ran into a problem: our staff needed accounts. Those familiar with running a business know that a couple of things you are responsible to provide for your employees. Imagine you join the Bank of America and the first thing they ask you to do is to use your credit card and register an e-mail account with Google.

To resolve this we approached Linden Lab. They understood our problem and offered us a block of 25 basic accounts, for a fee. Those accounts don't receive any benefits such as stipends or first land. They are plain accounts that our staff can use to work in Second Life.

To avoid confusion and to keep things transparent all accounts share the last name "ACS", which stands for ANSHECHUNG Studios. That way everybody knows when they are dealing with an ACS employee and know that they can make us as a company responsible for issues that may arise in connection with those accounts.

Most of the accounts are only used by a single employee. 3 accounts are used for specific functions though and might be accessed by different staff when needed: Support, Content and Billing. That works pretty much the same as a couple of accounts Linden Lab is using, such as "Governor Linden". Several in-world SL businesses also have such arrangements. Think of "IGE Wheeling", "Exchange Street", "Azure Amabassador" and others.

The way I understand it, the option to buy a block of business accounts is available to any real business in need of accounts for real employees. I am sure you will soon see a lot more companies using that option.

I'm utterly and totally against the idea of people being able to change names.

The main reason for this is that it becomes a tool by which Griefers can evade ban lists and security systems.

Obviously the current 'built in' banning tools are about as effective as a chocolate kettle, those of us who have had serious griefing issues will know too well that LL doesn't do anything useful in griefing cases - because 10 minutes after a Linden has told griefers to leave, back they come...

So, there is only one option. Purchase a sim wide security system which can exclude AVs by name on a 'ban list' of AV names. I've done this and it means that griefers get precisely ONE chance, then they are history. Something LL ought to do...

The problem with name changing is that I can't keep Griefers out!

So, having invited griefers in, with their 'free basic account' policy, LL is now going to remove my only defence against them. If this is implemented what can I do to protect against griefers? Have 4 alts permanently online with automated 'attack list' weapons systems?

It's a great shame LL can't think more about protecting the interests of PAYING CUSTOMERS when making decisions like this.

WooooWWWWwwww!!!

Nice budget you must have now: 12 person as staff plus you two.. salary' s plus German taxes and all social payments.. wow..

Internal meetings.. Internal info.. plus take care of all external info and the ones that want contacts.. and office rents.. computers.. connections.. ooo....

Congrats to you!!!


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How many are employed at LL nowdays?

/Tina

I don't know how much it will affect that end of things, when we have free throw-away accounts already.

Most hard-core griefers would find a way to slither through the cracks without free accounts and name changing ability. That's what they do.

Not to mention, why would they pay to change their name, (which Robin indicates will be flagged with a history of the change), when they can just get a free account (with another credit card, or a temporary internet credit card, and so on - there are ways around that 5 acct. limit and determined griefers certainly have no problem finding and exploiting them), and enjoy 100% anonimity all over again?

Or if this did happen, LL could just keep all the sims as they are, and ask the renters to pay their rent to LL instead of Anshe. After all, if she's paying her tier from that rent, there's enough there for LL to maintain the sims.

Well my system works OK, so far. But if they can change their AV names at will my system will stop working. And the only alternative will be the 'Damage on and 4 Alts on 24/7 with auto weapons systems and an active 'friends' list'. Which also keeps innocent non-griefers out in the most unfriendly way and is not a path I want to go down.

A bit of thought on LL's part could have avoided all this...

Ability to change the names of avatars, is IMHO a totally different issue from the ability to create new surnames.

Griefers who use multiple names, can defeat security systems and ban lines regardless of whether the surnames they use are custom or from the LL list. Since the LL list is being updated all the time anyway, a static list of surnames in a security device couldn't allow for it.

And for this reason I wouldn't assume that, if we suddenly got the ability to create new surnames, that every resident would be asked if they wanted to change their surname to a custom one. People don't say it's unfair that we can't change our LL surnames to new ones that appeared on the approved list at times after we signed up after all...

IF i get married a day I want a double name of course) As we girls do in Sweden...

/Tina

Hmmm, well 'ban lines' are utterly useless, largely because ot the height limitation which is below much of my land and most builds on it...

As for someone making new AVs endlessly to continue griefing - in my experience that doesn't happen. It's probably too much trouble. There are easier targets out there.

I had no griefing problems, until free accounts became available, problems started shortly thereafter. LL was no help at all, so now I just AR the suckers and put them on the list - they don't tend to return after being sent home a few times and there is generally a lull for a few weeks before another idiot tries it again. Like I say - they get just ONE chance.

But being able to change their name quickly and easily... well that is going to alter things quite a bit in my opinion. Whatever. LL will do exactly what they want, and I'll do whatever I have to to protect my interests. No real change there.

Even if (for example) it's only once in an avatar's life, for a charge of US$10.00 or the equivalent in Lindens, so it's no more useful to griefers than another full-price alt?

They haven't finalised the rules, so rather than going "I'm totally against it", how about suggesting how it should work?

I don't think being able to look up someone's old name is really useful, unless the changes can be made very rapidly... and you're right, that would give griefers another tool. And being able to look up an old name may be a problem if you're changng your name to get a stalker off your back?

Changing your name would not change your UUID, take the knot out your knickers.

The security system I use relies on AV names, not UUIDs. And I don't know of a sim wide security system, or any security system for that matter, that uses UUIDs to identify intruders...

There's really not much point making suggestions Argent - LL doesn't have a great track record of listening to customer suggestions, besides a few landowners are going to be shouted down by a mass of 'ooooh - shiny' merchants who can't wait to change their names... Dammit, they all had the chance to choose from a LONG list at signup, make a choice and stick with it for heaven's sake.

Bu....B....But.. I was a crazy newbie then!

YES Nimrod. That's why you got ONE chance...

Not for long! Actually I like my name, it makes me be different... I think.