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We Can Create Our Own Last Names!!!!

Doc Nielsen
Fallen...
Join date: 13 Apr 2005
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03-20-2006 10:09
From: nimrod Yaffle
Not for long! Actually I like my name, it makes me be different... I think. :-P



EXACTLY! I screwed up my name ever so slightly... but it's ME now. Change it? Kill ME off?
No way!
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All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?
Eboni Khan
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Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 2,133
03-20-2006 10:10
From: Doc Nielsen
The security system I use relies on AV names, not UUIDs. And I don't know of a sim wide security system, or any security system for that matter, that uses UUIDs to identify intruders...



Well, now there will be a new market.
nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,146
03-20-2006 10:32
From: Eboni Khan
Well, now there will be a new market.

I think a good idea would be for LL to have double names. The system would still recognize their old one, but also use it as their new one. I'm sure many bugs would become of this, but it's just an idea.
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Eep Quirk
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03-20-2006 12:30
From: Yumi Murakami
Or if this did happen, LL could just keep all the sims as they are, and ask the renters to pay their rent to LL instead of Anshe. After all, if she's paying her tier from that rent, there's enough there for LL to maintain the sims.
Good point! Granted, some sim "downsizing" might have to occur (plots moved/reorganized, etc) but there's no reason LL couldn't them exactly how they are should Anshe get the ax.
Eep Quirk
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03-20-2006 12:32
From: PetGirl Bergman
How many are employed at LL nowdays?
From: someone
Ian: We have almost 70 full[-]time employees and around [20] part-time liaisons.
-source
Yiffy Yaffle
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Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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03-20-2006 12:37
Heres how i think it will be. You wont be able to change an existing account name, but you will be able to create a new account with a custom last name. It will cost a fee and may be either a one time fee or stapled to your recurring payment. If your a basic account you will still have to pay it. Im sure when something costs money its not gona stop a griefer from using it. Some of them dont even use their own credit cards anyway. But they wont just change their name at a simline and come back ban free. Im sure that the land ban list keeps a record of their UUID key anyway.
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Doc Nielsen
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03-20-2006 14:06
From: Yiffy Yaffle
Im sure that the land ban list keeps a record of their UUID key anyway.



Fine, assuming it does, BUT, it's still completely useless. It simply doesn't reach high enough, most of my property and builds are above the 'ban line' max height and thus not protected by it - hence my reliance on somewhat more robust measures.
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All very well for people to have a sig that exhorts you to 'be the change' - I wonder if it's ever occurred to them that they might be something that needs changing...?
Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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03-20-2006 16:29
From: Doc Nielsen
There's really not much point making suggestions Argent - LL doesn't have a great track record of listening to customer suggestions,
Your odds are better than with Pascal's Wager.

Complaining won't get you anywhere.

Making constructive suggestions might not get you anywhere, but they're still worth making.

In 2000 a bunch of Palm users got asked by Microsoft to come and have a look at what was going to be the Pocket PC. We made some suggestions about what needed to be fixed in the next version. And, amazingly enough, some were actually followed.

Palm responded to that by asking a bunch of us (including all the people at Microsoft's shindig) to join the "Palm Influencers" mailing list. So far as I can tell absolutely zero suggestions we made even got through to the developers.

Is Linden Labs going to be Microsoft or Palm? I don't know... but I don't think they're as bad at listening to input as Palm was, so there's still hope. I think it's worth trying, and if yuo don't... you'll have more fun just quitting the forums. :)

(no, seriously, that's not a dig... it's the voice of experience)
Argent Stonecutter
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03-20-2006 16:35
From: Yiffy Yaffle
Heres how i think it will be. You wont be able to change an existing account name, but you will be able to create a new account with a custom last name.
You can already do that, and you already still have to pay a fee for another Basic account. Changing the name so you can fix a mistake you made as a newbie is a different matter. There you want to keep your inventory.

Regarding another person's comment: it's not killing yourself off. Do people die when they change their name by marriage or deed-poll?
Kyushu Tiger
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03-20-2006 17:02
From: Doc Nielsen
The security system I use relies on AV names, not UUIDs. And I don't know of a sim wide security system, or any security system for that matter, that uses UUIDs to identify intruders...


That would be a pretty obvious step for the authors of the security tools to take, though, in response to LL allowing name changes. I would be surprised if this does not happen.

LL mentioned allowing people to see a history of name changes, to prevent fraud/griefing. It seems to me that feature should also allow easy retrieval of the avatar's key, which would allow you to ban them based on that info instead of their name.


Kyushu
Yiffy Yaffle
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Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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03-21-2006 00:10
From: Argent Stonecutter
You can already do that, and you already still have to pay a fee for another Basic account. Changing the name so you can fix a mistake you made as a newbie is a different matter. There you want to keep your inventory.


hm the last i checked you have to pick a last name from a list. i dont see the ability for a custom name yet. unless your anshechung imployed. if indeed this is already possible i might as well pick the name i want now!
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Usagi Musashi
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03-21-2006 02:12
Well maybe at the start, but you know griefters they always find a way around.
Argent Stonecutter
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03-21-2006 08:58
From: Yiffy Yaffle
hm the last i checked you have to pick a last name from a list. i dont see the ability for a custom name yet.
No, but you can wait for a name you like to come up. What you can't do is transfer inventory to the new name.

If I change my name in RL, it's expensive and annoying, but it doesn't force me to burn my house down and rebuild it.
Yumi Murakami
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Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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03-21-2006 09:11
From: Argent Stonecutter
No, but you can wait for a name you like to come up.


So anyone who's joining SL for the first time ought to wait for an unknown length of time for their ideal surname to come up, not knowing if it ever will? :?
Yumi Murakami
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03-21-2006 09:12
From: nimrod Yaffle
I think a good idea would be for LL to have double names. The system would still recognize their old one, but also use it as their new one. I'm sure many bugs would become of this, but it's just an idea.


Double-barreled names? Oh, wonderful! I bagsy getting to be a particle designer with the surname Sparkle-Widget. ;)
Ceera Murakami
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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03-21-2006 09:23
Hasn't anyone realised what happened here?

It's easy to create a slew of new accounts with a new surname...

Just buy an entire block of sims at auction as part of a special LL Promotion, get 25 free accounts with the sim purchase, and LL will make a special name, just for you. Only costs you several thousand US dollars.

:P

Seriously, didn't anyone else see this? The block of sims that Anshe purchased most lilkely came with a block of 25 'free' premium accounts. Like the batch that was being sold on eBay a while back.

Sheesh...
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Sean Martin
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03-21-2006 09:57
From: Iron Perth
"You are not allowed to ever disclose your password to another person."

http://secondlife.com/corporate/tos.php

Haha I bit to late I'm afraid.
Least in the case of my family. :(
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Darkness Anubis
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03-21-2006 10:03
Actually I know of one example of a legitimate reason to want to change a name (IMHO).

One of our family has a name that is exactly 1 letter different from another player. About a year and half ago this other player had some difficulty with providing customer service. How do we know? Our family member was recieving hundreds of very nasty irate IMs from this other persons customers. Most of these people refused to believe she was not the person they were TOd at. As a result our family member to this day cannot sell a darn thing in SL and has virtually stopped creating anything. She still recieves horrible IMs from this other persons customers to this day.

LL refused her a name change when she asked a year and half ago. SL has been almost unbearable for her since.
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Enabran Templar
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03-21-2006 10:10
Well. Cheap sex animations.

How 'bout that.

They're cheap, folks.
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Darkness Anubis
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03-21-2006 10:21
From: Enabran Templar
Well. Cheap sex animations.

How 'bout that.

They're cheap, folks.


What does this have to do with a need for a name change? That is my business not hers. Kindly leave her out of the potshots.She built houses and made textures.

Yes I make sex animations. Yes I sell them at low cost. Your post seems to be a rather snide attack and I have no idea what I ever did to you to deserve this comment.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-21-2006 11:42
From: Yumi Murakami
So anyone who's joining SL for the first time ought to wait for an unknown length of time for their ideal surname to come up, not knowing if it ever will? :?
Hell no. They also shouldn't be expected to pick the right name right out of the starting gate, either. And they shouldn't be expected to avoid typoing their first name. And they shouldn't be expected to know that this isn't like their Yahoo Mail account and they can't just change it when hotmamma23 gets embarassing.

ALL of these are reasons why you should be able to change your name without abandoning hundreds of dollars worth of content that is no-transfer.
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