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Smerk Gorilla
Los Altos King
Join date: 8 Apr 2005
Posts: 20
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07-11-2006 18:39
So today I get an IM that I am going to get reported for playing uncensored rap music in my private sim named Los Altos. I decided to contact Live help and they assured me that uncensored rap was permitted in my private sim. Then the griever that reported me told me that they had spoken to a Linden and that in fact it might be a TOS violation to play unsencored music in my private sim. So i contacted this Linden and indeed was told that i may be in violation. So what do I do. I have had the sim for about a year and always played the same uncensored rap music. Do I take out the rap? And let a free acount get me in trouble, though i paid 1,250 for my sim and continue to pay 200 a month for the teir and up keep??
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Raymond Goodliffe
Registered User
Join date: 5 Jan 2006
Posts: 2
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07-11-2006 18:46
I say keep the music, for real..are the lindens gonna destroy a something huge over a newb?
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Devin Calhoun
Registered User
Join date: 4 Jun 2006
Posts: 4
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07-11-2006 18:49
I love people who are so uptight that they would report rap music. what an Assclown huh. I play Music in my place too its my store, it says mature. obviously the ppl reporting arent mature so thier complaints shouldnt be considered anyways right? ill play what i want.
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BabyBoo Glitterbuck
BoozyWoozy!!
Join date: 18 Feb 2005
Posts: 221
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07-11-2006 18:51
it's a mature, private sim - if you dont want to be subjected to mature material, don't enter the areas. Simple as that. If the music was bothering you, respect you're in an area that allows it and hit the stop button. Simple yet again.
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Mocha Jackson
Second Life Resident
Join date: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 6
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Wth?
07-11-2006 18:57
If you're offended by the music that's playing on a PRIVATE and MATURE sim, you have the option of:
1. Turning your music off 2. Not entering a sim marked MATURE. 3. Leaving With all the griefing thats been going on lately, I'm sure the Lindens have more important things to deal with than what music is playing. Clearly this person isn't mature enough to deal with the situation and doesn't need to be there. |
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Garicho Fatale
The Rated R Avatar
Join date: 9 Sep 2004
Posts: 37
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07-11-2006 18:59
What is the difference between uncensored rap music and ppl that have porn movies on their sim? It is a mature sim and everyone has the option to either leave or just hit the stop button. This does not make any sense to me.
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Jahney Basiat
Registered User
Join date: 27 May 2006
Posts: 1
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Thats Just Plain Bulls#@t
07-11-2006 19:00
Come on now wtf is with people we are all in mature sims when we wear xcite product,Goto xxx Cinema's, get lap dances, isn't that what a muture sim is for or am I wrong... What did Linden do with the whole Unverified crap seems like they just opened a can of worms here. Is it now bannable for wearing an xcite product in mature sim ? how about those who wear an xcite penis like me and had in invis 90% of the time can i cet banned if someone holds down the alt key and sees it ? where is the live gonna get drawn here? I am no offending anyone in anyway and if you dont want to hear or see mature content stay the F@CK OFF MATURE Sims. People just love to Grief..... Get a life. Linden better make some clear decisions here or they will lose tons of money there are many adult movies to rent, sexualy body parts, ect.....
and I cant think of on Mature sim i have been on that didnt have uncencored music at one time or another. Lets not let this rest time we get some clear difinitive answer here I play adult movies in my club on a Muture sim... so what do i need to to not get my azz banned ? |
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Alan Palmerstone
Payment Info Used
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 659
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07-11-2006 19:02
Your sim is rated Mature - that has to be the end of the story. You can do what you want.
As a fellow sim owner, I will say that if someone tells me I can't do something on my own sim that I pay good money for? "You too, boy, if ya f*** with me The Lindens are gonna hafta come and get me Off yo a**, that's how I'm goin out" (hehe, forums are pg) Hope you get this cleared up - You run a themed sim - of course you are gonna have uncensored rap. Like someone going to T*tty Island and complaining about all the t*tties. Just crazy. To cheer you up, listen to this folk song version (caution: mature lyrics) of Straight Outta Compton, by Nina Gordon. _____________________
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Smerk Gorilla
Los Altos King
Join date: 8 Apr 2005
Posts: 20
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My point Xactly
07-11-2006 19:07
Just sux to deal with free account people like that, then to have it confirmed by a Linden that it "may" in fact be a TOS. I don't make the rap i just stream it ya feel me. Imagine Los Altos with Classical music LOLOL.
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TJ Rolland
Registered User
Join date: 12 Oct 2005
Posts: 1
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07-11-2006 19:07
now why would they say something to the owner of a sim who pays $10 a month for their account and who pays $200 in tier fees about the music they want to play uncensored or not. So what someone came their and didnt like the music, no one said he had to stay there and i dont think theres some kind of glitch in game where you cant push stop to turn off the music. I got ya back bro, my sim been playing uncensored rap too, and no i know theres people out there that like to report over it, its there to stay, and I;m sure I'm not the only one who already has it playing or will have it playing now. As far as I remember, this is an 18 and older game, which means, everyone is adults, which mean everyone has the right to do whatever they want on their land right?
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Ginger Robertson
Registered User
Join date: 4 Jan 2005
Posts: 1
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Yeah Right
07-11-2006 19:21
Although we are in a virtual world the First Amendment still reigns supreme. ANY music uncensored should be banned if this is the case.. not just RAP music. I'm sure SL would rather receive the monthly fees of these mature sims more than violating our right to play the music that we want to hear on a private mature sim.
My suggestion would be for these so called DO-GOODERS to rid SL of the pedophilia that is running rampant on the game... I mean, surely that's more disgusting than uncensored music....Or will they blame that on rap too? Some people have too much time on their hands... GIN B |
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Summer Carmichael
UNVERIFIED REGISTERED
Join date: 11 Jun 2006
Posts: 326
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07-11-2006 19:24
This is all third hand story telling, and to top it off you heard this from the griefer who then tells you a Linden told you this. Then the rest of you, did you read his post, none of this is confirmed there is no fire...chill out. yo yo yo
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,328
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07-11-2006 19:33
Although we are in a virtual world the First Amendment still reigns supreme. Actually, no, it doesn't. Not even close. It has zip, zero, zilch, f-all to do with SL, or any other privately owned environment. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Wrom Morrison
Validated User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 462
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07-11-2006 19:39
This is to Torley,
Hey, how come there are so many new Liaisons who know so little about SL? Shouldn't there be a training procedure? This thread isn't the first time I've witnessed new Linden Liaison saying something that was totally off the established guidelines. Maybe Liaisons who do not know the topic, should instead refer the customer to a senior Liaisons instead of giving an answer off the top of her head. |
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Logan Bauer
Inept Adept
Join date: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,237
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07-11-2006 19:45
What is the difference between uncensored rap music and ppl that have porn movies on their sim? It is a mature sim and everyone has the option to either leave or just hit the stop button. This does not make any sense to me. As soon as I started reading this thread I thought about the same thing, "So you can graphically act out sex in any mature area, stream porn, put up pictures of graphic sex acts, but the words used to describe the graphic sex act cannot be broadcast, hell, not even hosted or broadcasted through LL's servers but basically "pointed at"??? I would keep playing any damned music you want, until a Linden tells you not to, which I think will never happen. |
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Ethen Till
Registered User
Join date: 29 Apr 2006
Posts: 70
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jerks
07-11-2006 20:01
So today I get an IM that I am going to get reported for playing uncensored rap music in my private sim named Los Altos. I decided to contact Live help and they assured me that uncensored rap was permitted in my private sim. Then the griever that reported me told me that they had spoken to a Linden and that in fact it might be a TOS violation to play unsencored music in my private sim. So i contacted this Linden and indeed was told that i may be in violation. So what do I do. I have had the sim for about a year and always played the same uncensored rap music. Do I take out the rap? And let a free acount get me in trouble, though i paid 1,250 for my sim and continue to pay 200 a month for the teir and up keep?? what a jerk, its your sim.. you have all right to play any music you wish... if they don't want to listen turn off the music gezz... if you are paying out money for something you have all right to do whatever you what... something like this 'isn't' againist the TOS |
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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07-11-2006 20:23
First I agree with the consensus here and I'm fairly certain it is policy that it is your sim to do with as you please. If people don't like it they shouldn't be there. I wouldn't sweat the issue too much where the Lindens are involved. Most likely this one Linden either stated his/her opinion rather than policy or hadn't clearly understood the issue.
But I noticed a couple of people using certain expressions in the thread.. are the lindens gonna destroy a something huge over a newb? just love to Grief Just sux to deal with free account people like that, you heard this from the griefer A) The fact that the person who complained may have been new to SL is completely irrelevent. This is one of the attitudes that makes people feel very unwelcome. In fact any old resident who has been here forever and a day can be just as big a dipshit as any new person. B) The term griefer is so often misused it starts to lose all meaning. Reporting someone for playing music you don't like on their own private sim does not make someone a griefer, it only makes them a poor unfortunate victim of stick up their ass disease and we should be sympathetic to their plight. It must be very difficult to go through life being that oversensitive. (This was sarcasm... for the sarcasm impared.) _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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07-11-2006 22:57
Although we are in a virtual world the First Amendment still reigns supreme. ANY music uncensored should be banned if this is the case.. not just RAP music. I'm sure SL would rather receive the monthly fees of these mature sims more than violating our right to play the music that we want to hear on a private mature sim. My suggestion would be for these so called DO-GOODERS to rid SL of the pedophilia that is running rampant on the game... I mean, surely that's more disgusting than uncensored music....Or will they blame that on rap too? Some people have too much time on their hands... GIN B first ad. doesn't apply. LL isn't required to give you a soapbox in their PRIVATE environments |
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cinda Hoodoo
my 2cents worth
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 951
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hmmm whats the point of...
07-11-2006 23:31
paying SL all that money for your own private sim if you cant do and say as you please?
Seems some Lindens need to get their story straight, is it or is it not against TOS ?? a Clarification please, if its not i suggest everyone unload those spendy sims and go freeload off the land like everyone else..and enjoy the visual smut fo free ![]() |
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Jaynessa Jackson
Second Life Resident
Join date: 1 Nov 2004
Posts: 42
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07-11-2006 23:36
well smerk...even mozart had haters.
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Allana Dion
Registered User
Join date: 12 Jul 2005
Posts: 1,230
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07-11-2006 23:43
well smerk...even mozart had haters. hehe good point. EDIT: Actually rap music makes my head hurt but I think I can admit that's more of an age thing. And my own problem._____________________
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Diamond Holiday
Registered User
Join date: 4 May 2005
Posts: 10
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Now Thats Some Damm Horse Shit!!
07-12-2006 11:45
Haters, Plain Ignorant Ass Haters, Play What You Like Smerk, The Haters Will Go Away ,they Always Do, Damm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get A Life Pls, This Is Sl, Its A Mature Sim, For That Matter A Mature Game!! This Aint Teen Sl, Lmfao
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Michi Lumin
Sharp and Pointy
Join date: 14 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,793
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07-12-2006 11:50
Haters, Plain Ignorant Ass Haters, Play What You Like Smerk, The Haters Will Go Away ,they Always Do, Damm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get A Life Pls, This Is Sl, Its A Mature Sim, For That Matter A Mature Game!! This Aint Teen Sl, Lmfao word. |
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Ghoti Nyak
καλλιστι
Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
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07-12-2006 12:48
I would really like to hear why the Linden in question feels the music would be a TOS violation.
Did you happen to ask them what part of the TOS was being violated? -Ghoti _____________________
"Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
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Mina Firefly
Tattooist
Join date: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 341
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07-12-2006 12:54
Looks like that new player doesn't like rap music.
Yet again one of those narrow minded people...who want it ALL their way. It's your sim...so you play whatever you want. It's a MATURE sim... We can't make everything into kiddie land...with cencored music and cencored pictures. |