BEWARE: Stolen Textures In Second Life!!!!!

Sensual , It is the way you come across .The smart ass comments you make . You start off saying somthing that is completley understandable then follow it by a smart ass remark .

This thread should'nt be removed in my opinion.
If it does nothing other than deter another person from stealing from us or you or any other designer then its purpose has been served. Maybe, if people understand that its not as cut and dry as knowing where the resources came from it will make them less likley to even try. Even if tons of people dont read the forums , there are some that do and the word passes . Linden Labs cant possibly take care of this situation alone, its becoming too common .Who is going to fight for you if you dont fight for yourself ?Who is going to help you if you dont help yourself .
How many well known designers have posted here that they too have been ripped off and nothing was done ? Designers that used the methods you have suggested ?Looks to me that they are in the same boat as you are .If this thread had stopped when you first suggested, Raquel would have never convicted herself the way she has done here ...there would still be doubt of her guilt in some of your minds . Please allow us to solve our problem the way we see fit .When and if linden labs feels we have gone over board they will end it . Right now I believe it still serves a purpose. I dont have to justify that purpose to you ,ive chosen to try too .

See that's where you should have stopped talking.
If you don't know what youre talking about how about you stop talking about it?

Acxtually I dont think anyone in this thread is an expert... if there is please point me to them?

Ambyance , It is the way you come across .The smart ass comments you make . You start off saying somthing that is completley understandable then follow it by a smart ass remark .

Sensual ,
You just want to argue with somone . I dont think it really even matters who . Please, this is not the thread for it . If you want to argue with me start a new thread k .

Umm as I recall I stated my opinions and you are trying to shut me up for whatever reason, you don't have to agree with me, k thx

Aww Im very sorry if i made you feel like i was trying to shut you up .I do apologize sensual .Your input is very important to this thread , thankyou so much for taking your time to respond. Have a wonderful night

Ooo you too pumpkin... have a good day ALL day!

Now see, this is what the forums are all about! People coming together, working out their differences, it's really touching.

I know it! wheres the camp fire?

I believe you can light one from one of the torches from the mob that are still smoldering. Either that, or I am sure you can borrow one from one of the Neualtenberg threads.

Omg, Thank you! I needed a good laugh!

Between those two extremes are a lot of ideas that are ill-conceived. So, "worthy of consideration," sure. But not above criticism.

I'm not a skin maker, I will never be in the guild, and I don't know any of the interested parties. I don't think the guild will solve the problems those promoting it think it will, especially because they don't want to hear constructive criticism. Heck, I don't think they can agree on what those goals are.

But as I've said before, they're more than welcome to try and I think it will be an interesting experiment.

This perfectly illustrates the irrational mob mentality that this thread immediately turned to so quickly and dominated at least the last 5 pages.

Nowhere did I present myself as an expert or attempt to act as judge or advocate. Whatever I "sound" like is just your personal bias and irrationality.

Please just move this discussion from the General forum and into the secret deliberation room of the skin makers guild if you don't want inconvenient questions and objective opinions from outsiders.

The totally emotional, partisan, sloppy and unprofessional way this "investigation" and deliberation was carried out here gives me little confidence in your abilities to render a fair verdict. Hey, you might get lucky and come to the right decision 90% of the time (for the wrong reasons), but even those cases will lack credibility with me, so don't expect me to stand by them.

....ANYWAY

Last night I was informed another hair designer's texture was stolen and reproduced in someone else's wig. How? They took the texture from a hair they had already bought from this designer, zoomed in and took a snapshot, resulting in a blurred stretched smudgey half the origional quality hair texture....then they slapped it on their own wig and are selling it. It's pretty silly if you ask me, the way this person mutilated it into a bunch of streaks.... why not paint a few lines in ps and use that instead? I mean seriously. If you can't make things on your own why are you doing it in the first place?

I just wanna say that as a newbie who has searched high and low and up and down for a skin that I like, I finally found skins I'm willing to shell out Linden's for. They were Lost's.

I'm deciding exactly which one I will purchase tomorrow.

I'm glad I wasn't fooled into buying the rip-off, but it looks like crap after what they did to it, anyways!

Bleh, indeed.

(I just realized high/low, up/down, same thing. Whatever, it's late. But your skins rock.)

Quility is bad! makers designer look even worse.

You should never resell anothers work like that..it isn't ethical.

This looks like a job for...

Thats true - but a major part of the people in the world are not aware that there are something called ETHICAL.. . and less seams to be in Second Life.-

/Tina

lol I don't even have to say how you sound. You completely have proven my point.
You have added nothing constructive to this topic at all. Try following what is going on before you open your mouth because you still sound like you are still incomplete and reaching lower and lower just for a fight.


this says your are just on this thread arguing to argue. You know nothing about the facts or what kind of hard work it takes into making skins. Ouch that must make you sound oh yeah incomplete again.

when I say incomplete it is a nice way of saying ignorant.

I don't think a guild is supposed really to solve 'problem' of people taking work of others because there simply isn't technical means to remove that.

It's merely a sort of BBB-lite, with primary goal to give the customer a better chance to make informed choice. In similar manner car makers participate in 'safety programs' and then display ratings they get in their ads -- while itself it doesn't eliminate existence of unsafe cars, it offers customer better chance to buy a car that was determined relatively safe, and at the same time provide the car makers with incentive to actually try and improve safety of their vehicles...

"Constructive" meaning throwing more sticks onto the bonfire? Let me ask, can you build a bridge out of her? Yeah, that's a fair cop.


Sorry I have nothing to add other than an objective viewpoint, and cold dispassionate reason. Sorry, carry on.

Why is this thread still open. Its a personal dispute that had no place in the forums to begin with, it contains personal insults against another member; it trashed another member beyond reason and is nothing more than the old ugly forum feeding frenzy that the RES MOD program was intended to resolve.

Where are the resmods, Torley and Jeska now? Why has this been allowed to continue for days, despite so many TOS/CS/forum posting rule violations?

This is exactly what I'm trying to understand and I still don't get how it's supposed to work.

Does the guild actually certify the quality of the skins? Other proposals have stated that all it does is verify that the skins are not copied from existing guild members.

Does this mean that it is not sufficient to be honest to be in the guild? Would the alleged offender (heretofore known as "witch" in this case be ineligble for the guild because her lips looked amateurish and because no one can create a high-quality skin in 3 days?

And if the guild is purely a collection of makers, then there is no guarantee to the consumer that the item is not grossly overpriced, that the item matches the appearance on the box, that the vendor will be responsive to problems, etc. These are the kind of things that are important to most consumers and I don't see this guild solving those problems.

The guild sounds like it is becoming a cliqueish group of "elite" craftsmen, much more like the guilds of olde. Yes, these groups had certain, presumably high, standards, but they were more about creating limited competition than protecting the consumer.

Johanna, you're under no obligation to answer my questions. But hopefully someone who is working on the guild charter is considering these issues and not just pooh-poohing them as coming from an outsider who is just argumentative.