Fur sims getting griefed way too much

Dead Horse neighs, shuddering in the throes of a massive orgasm!

Errr.. maybe not.... Set might have worse problems with Necrophiliac Furry Bestiality..

I'm seeing these griefing threads with no proof in them. Too hard to post a log or hit snapshot?

Really.

I don't know one way or another what your deal is but, what you're saying is that while in the middle of being attacked you think people should somehow hunt down the person doing the attacking, take their picture while at the same time ARing and taking a screenshot of that and making sure to record the log....... Not asking for much are ya?

I'm sorry but my priority is always stopping the attack first to protect the people in my place then dealing with all the reporting stuff. I'm not going to stand around taking screenshots while my club members or customers are being blown all over the sim.

Funny, I, nor my friends have been banned by LL, ever. Why is that? Maybe because this is fabricated garbage.

Whatever, anyone who listens to 'Yuffy Yaffle' with no proof isn't someone I'd want to know anyway.

Continue on children, randomly ban people from your land, once you're done with that you have nothing else you can do but look for more people to ban. Must make you feel powerful online or something. Have fun.

Gambit, I know Yiffy Yaffle very well and I can assure you the she is a very even-pawed security officer who does not ban all and sundry on a whim.

Right here you have nailed why the AR system doesn't make filing an effective report a particularly easy thing to do. I recently experienced my first true experience of greifing, and I was far too busy dealing with ejecting them so my partner and I were no longer being shot, and pulling down the about land box to return the rapidly self-replicating giant penises before my unfinished, largely unlinked builds starting started flying back into my inventory (or more widespread damage)... by the time I got to reporting, there was nothing to get a screenshot of.

What I took from this experience, was that in this sort of situation, dealing with the interface in this sort of situation, it's just all too clunky. Right-clicking and choosing, dropdown menus, different dialogue boxes and tabs... not exactly a streamlined procedure. Then I thought, without that screenshot, is this just he said - they said? If the tools for dealing with this were better integrated... like all flowing from one menu option, it would really help I feel. One box, get screenshot, eject resident, return resident's objects, disallow resident's scripts, add to ban list, leading to file AR, whatever you need in these situations. I'm sure some of you have this down pat because you're in more targeted places, but it would be nice not to have to get practised at it to have a satisfactory outcome (it would be nice to to have to get practised at it at all). No idea if that is feasible, just my thoughts.

Apologies for drifting from the topic.

That was funny as hell *breathes*

Gambit, were you not the one in Taco apologizing for your friends behaviour? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you were there in the idiotic gesture and particle fiasco just as much as I was, and you were begging me not to ban you with your friends.

Wasn't that you?

Huh. Funny dat.

That was a different group altogether, and I left. I'm done with it, I left the group.

Anyone would defend their friends to a point, but it's not worth all this drama, so I'm done.

I'm not in the group anymore, and I'm trying to move past this. It's not worth all this drama and arguing.

I asked them not to drop nukes in Taco, I love Taco, they did it anyway. So I asked you not to involve me in it, and you didn't. I know you don't know me, but have I shown you any reason from your interaction with me that I'm some griefer? I like your AVs, and I like shopping in Taco.

Even though they do those things, they're still my FRIENDS. When they're not on I'm bored out of my mind. They're the people I talk to in this game, they're the people I play this game to be around. They don't do those things to me, so you'll all have to excuse me if I don't seperate myself completely from them just because people I don't talk to at all, or often, tell me to.

I'd also like to add that the people who are referring to me as the leader of any group, I'm not. I don't lead any groups, and I'm not an officer. So asking me to do something about anyone who bothers you, or a region, isn't fair to me. I can't control other people, I can only ask them.

I can't help wondering whether you really belong here.

Although, on reflection, I have to say you probably do.

Falls out of chair laughing.

*gasp*

Tries not to pass out while laughing more.

Methinks Gambit do protest overmuch!

Fer cryin' out loud Gambit. GO take a walk, enjoy a sunset, pet a friendly dog. Visit a local bar and enjoy the other patrons. In real life. Gain a little perspective. Now stop obsessing about Yffie, stop associating with people you have to spend all of your time and energy apologizing for. I mean jeez dude - take a step back and look at how pathetic this looks!!

It's bits and bytes - little itty-bitty electrons marching in a row through a a gazillion electronic switches and homing on a metal platter spinning at 7200 RPM (if we're lucky) as polarized magnetic particles.

Learn to choose your friends with better discrimination or at least have the intestinal fortitude to own the behaviors without whining and carrying on like a cheap street theater player in a bad victim play. Stop demanding fairness as a solution to your own silliness and ineptitude! SL is a pie fight and you got plastered dude!

Barry sum'd it up better than I can:

Hello everyone, This is my first post here as you can hopefully tell. I just thought I would voice my opinion here a little bit. Not directed at anyone at all, but just something I feel I could say to add or subtract from the situation.

Basically, I am a furry. I like other furs as well, and I see them as normal regular people. I have nothing against "normal" people either. I quoted "normal" because honestly is their such a thing as a normal person? I don't really think so...

Anyway, on the lines of furs having sex... I would like to say "so what...." why does it bother you? If you don't like it, then don't look or find something else to do. Furs are cute, or "hot" or "sexy" to some people and that's fine. Every person NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE has SOMETHING that other people will find weird.

The idea of a simulation like Second Life is to be able to do things you cant normally do in real life without being out casted... So... People should just let each other do their things in all respect... No one is trying to start anything, anti-furs are anti-furs odds are they just don't understand. I know quite a few furs from all over the world and hell... most if not all of them are just like everyone else.

So what actually makes someone hate a fur? Is it the fact that they think furs like to have sex with animals like dogs or cats? As someone said earlier I ASSURE YOU we don't want to "borrow" your dog or cat... We have minds of our own and they aren't driven souly by sexual thought. Although sometimes it would appear that way, because sometimes it does.

There are zones in SL dedicated to things like that and that's exactly why. If someone wants to go "yiff" (in quotes because some people may not understand), then they can do so in a zone that is just for doing that. SL is based on roleplay and being able to have the ability to be something you cant normally be. People don't really question furs in SL because they are "normal" to see around in SL. In REAL life on the other hand people are freaked out by furs because they don't see them as people... NEWS FLASH THERES A PERSON IN THERE! So get used to it, you may think they are different, but we aren't... I myself don't wear a fursuit just for that reason... People go insane and are scared by what they don't understand.

An example which hopefully some of you had heard of at some point in time was the recent Eon8 deal on the Internet with a unlabeled page with a countdown timer on it. 90% of people instantly linked it to terrorism because they didn't understand it. Which leads me to my point. Just because you don't understand it DOES NOT mean that it is bad. If you don't understand something and want to label it as a bad thing, LEARN about it first before you make your choice. Five minutes of research is not what I mean by learn about it either. Talk to someone about it who DOES know something about it, get a group opinion from people who actually experienced it. Asking for a show of hands is not what I mean either, anyone can ask "does so and so agree with ____?" or "do people really want ____? Take the time learn and research something before you label it with a VOID stamp...

NO ONE is normal, every person is different and has different things they like and dislike, so take the time to get to know someone fully before you call them a bad person. Furs have more than just fur on their minds most of the time...

Hopefully I made some valid points that people will agree or disagree with, I am open to conversation and will be looking forward to enjoying my second life, because two are better than one.

-Miles

That arguement has always bugged me. When you do something that society frowns apon, expect to be called on it. And just because someone dislikes furries doesn't mean they don't understand them or that their dislike is baseless.

I agree with you here actually, but in all respect I am just saying that people should spend more time to get know someone before they label them as an out cast.

The bad usually always outshines the good in peoples eyes. What would be your opinion of a guy who has sex with 7 year olds corpses, but also donates 5 million a year to charities? People don't need to know the reason why the guy has sex with dead children to think that what he is doing isn't right.

You've been reading Steve Ballmer's LJ, haven't you?

(and he screams "DEVELOPERS" whilst doing it.)

Yiffy! WTF are you talking about? Don't you know that Set is trying to get all of us pervs to see the light? Don't you remember? No one joins Second Life for anything but sex. It's all about sex and nothing else. If you wear a furr AV, you are into "****ing animals", if you talk to a loli AV you are a pedophile. Set knows the game, we're all busted.

/sarchasm

Mmmmmmmmm, sarchasm.....

Then what is the guy with the barrel-man av wanting? Or the one that I saw on Help Island that said he made his av look just like his Dad.

Granted, there are some people that are into some pretty odd things that log into SL. That's what makes it interesting. I don't care if someone likes to play daddy with virtual children. There's an adult (hopefully) behind the child av. I don't care if they like to wear "My Little Pony" avs and boink in a rainbow coloured stable. I like having fun, building stuff, and meeting people.

Some of the griefing can be pretty funny, like the guy that showed up in the Roman baths wearing a house. The sound cubes, poo-splatters, cages, and burning lower-case "t"s can be easily returned to the owners or deleted. It's the sim-crashing stuff that really pisses people off.

I also like cheese.

I need to grow up? I'm not the one with some obsession with other people and the things they do in their spare time.

GET A LIFE!

Ok how is having a furry avi in a virtual world relate in any way shape or form to killing infants?

Your not ignorant,... riiiiigggghhhhttt...

Your not only ignorant about Furries but your ignorant of a few other things it seems too.

How do you figure that is at all related to being a furry?

It was an analogy to furries to why "mudanes" "oppress" them. People see furries as people who have sex with animals, have orgies using mascot outfits as a medium, or get off on pictures of Donald sexing the Thunder Cats. When people see a group do that, said group will be called out on it.