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Adam Turk
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08-24-2006 19:08
I am looking to do a partnership with someone who owns tere own island. I am not looking to put any money in to this. I have a great idea for a few stores that will bring tons of people in. I would be willing to split the profit and if it isn't paying for itself in 2 months you can dump the business. Please email me at [email]mets888@aol.com[/email] if you would be interested in giving me a small section of your island. Email me for details about the business.
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Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
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08-24-2006 20:05
I am looking to do a partnership with someone who owns tere own island. I am not looking to put any money in to this. I have a great idea for a few stores that will bring tons of people in. I would be willing to split the profit and if it isn't paying for itself in 2 months you can dump the business. Please email me at [email]mets888@aol.com[/email] if you would be interested in giving me a small section of your island. Email me for details about the business. Sorry this made me giggle. Good luck! |
Adam Turk
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basically i mean im looking for an investor to let me borrow land
08-24-2006 20:26
basically im looking for someone to take a small risk by lending me a small portion of land
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Lillyana Hoffman
DJ/Designer/Flirt
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08-24-2006 20:51
well good luck with that...
Unless you are willing to invest, I am not sure there are a lot of ppl out there willing to even listen to your plight. If you already got someone, great for you.... But in my opinion(and its just that) it would seem to me that you want something for nothing. If the other person owns the land...maybe you could get a cut of what the person makes, because of your ideas...but splitting the profit with you, who contirbuted nothing,(in the way of money) would be kinda of silly for that person to do... Just my L$0.02 |
Chocolata Oxberger
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08-25-2006 05:43
Sorry I'm with Lillyana on this one.
Why not just start small and work up to what you are trying to achieve? Seriously, an island alone is expensive to own and you would not be helping offset that cost at all. What happens when you're idea is a flop and you have wasted the sim owners time and resources without compensation? They could have been using that for ways that were guaranteed to bring them in profits and you are asking they give that up for you. If you are really serious about finding a partner, draw up a business plan just like if you are going to the bank for a loan. If they have no idea how large of a space you need, or prim count, what you are doing if it will even go with their decor/ theme for the sim or not how do you expect anyone to consider doing this for you? Nothing personal but I do not know your name, if one of the Midnight's or Aimee Weber - someone like that asked to have space for free on my land I would give..They are well known and have proven to be a success here. You aren't even giving references to any projects you have worked on. Like I said, nothing personal but think of this from a business stand point. Oh and for the 50% of the profits you seek, that is ridiculous. 5% is more realistic. If you want half of my profits, you had better be creating content to add to the stores, paying rent and helping to keep things running smoothly ... ideas are nice but we all have them. |
Adam Turk
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08-25-2006 06:48
If you were to busy to realize, I was saying I would split MY profits meaning (for those of you with limited iintelligence ex. Chocolata Oxberger) that whatever my business takes in, I will give half to the other person. I am looking for about 1000m and yes I have a business plan. Thats what I am telling people who email me. I'm looking for a tiny piece of an island 1/64. There really isnt alot of risk in it at all. One of those people who rent out spots could afford it easily if they have a few extra spots open. Just because it hasn't worked out for a pathetic low life like you, who rather then trying to make his own business, sits at a computer and just tries to lay doubt on others.
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Aimee Weber
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08-25-2006 10:05
... if one of the Midnight's or Aimee Weber - someone like that asked to have space for free on my land I would give..They are well known and have proven to be a success here. I may take you up on that, but I'm mostly thinking of hanging around your land in my underwear, drinking lots of beer, and watching NASCAR all day. _____________________
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Alexa Lioncourt
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08-25-2006 10:55
pathetic low life? Way to win friends and influence them Adam.
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Job Manuel
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Join date: 4 Aug 2006
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08-25-2006 11:48
But why not take the jump and pay the $15-18 a month to have your own land?
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AudibleAura Gremminger
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Join date: 23 Jun 2006
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08-25-2006 11:50
Its called an investment... like the stockmarket (kinda)
if it works ull be rich... if it dont ohh well... no worries. after all he was only using a section of ur island and a couple hundred prims (if you have that available) reminds me of Venture Capitolism |
Chocolata Oxberger
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Join date: 10 Apr 2006
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08-25-2006 12:01
If you were to busy to realize, I was saying I would split MY profits meaning (for those of you with limited iintelligence ex. Chocolata Oxberger) that whatever my business takes in, I will give half to the other person. I am looking for about 1000m and yes I have a business plan. Thats what I am telling people who email me. I'm looking for a tiny piece of an island 1/64. There really isnt alot of risk in it at all. One of those people who rent out spots could afford it easily if they have a few extra spots open. Just because it hasn't worked out for a pathetic low life like you, who rather then trying to make his own business, sits at a computer and just tries to lay doubt on others. Adam, for the response I gave you .. namecalling was not necessary. It is the truth point blank. Sorry if that bites. Why not look in the classifieds section for island property . .commercial mind you since you want to open a shop, and see how much they charge for a 10m x 10m stall .. much less 1000m one. Plus you have to take into account how many prims or objects you will be placing out. Each typical vendor has about 5 - 15 prims each, not including any decorations you are putting out .. oh and are you planning on finding a plot where you can build your own place or just set up in their strip malls? If building, tack on prims for each wall, ceiling, floor etc. A 1024m plot only allows room for 234 prims and will tend to cost anywhere from $300L a week to $1000 wk depending on location and traffic score. If you are "testing" a new shop idea .. set up a small cheap booth somewhere even the free yard sales places and see the reaction first. You may get lucky and find someone who would be willing to work a deal with you, not many that I know would even consider it. You either pay rent and have a shop or you dont pay rent and do not have a shop. Since you think you know a bit about my business contact me in game and I will send you all the LM's to the stores I rent each week. I don't make anything near what the top designers make .. but enough to keep 16 stores up and a little extra each week plus upload costs, etc. Not bad for a pathetic lowlife I think. I may take you up on that, but I'm mostly thinking of hanging around your land in my underwear, drinking lots of beer, and watching NASCAR all day. Shall we make an event of it? LOL I'll even make the underwear with my store logo so it will be more like a PR party. |
Adam Turk
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08-25-2006 12:25
If you had spocken originally like this then I wouldnt have had to make any comments. Originally you didnt give any help, you were just negative. I am looking for help or information thatll help. Your 2nd post did that so thank you for that.
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Stephanie Abernathy
Susan Ivanova Wannabe
Join date: 8 May 2006
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08-25-2006 14:47
Adam,
this suggestion is made in all seriousness... become a premium member, pay the $72 once per year membership instead of the $10/month fee. The $72/year = $6/month. You'll get a stipend of 400L per week, which if you bought the L's from Lindex, you would pay close to that. Now, once sign up, Linden hands you 1000L as a bonus, so you turn around and BUY your first land. First land costs 512L, so you essentially get it for free, and have 498L extra in your pocket. The tier for the first 512m of land that you own is free; if you buy 1m more than it, you start to pay tier, but that 1st 512 is free. This is true even if you sell your first land and buy elsewhere... the 1st 512m is free. Your prim allottement is limited by the sim but is likely to be 117 prims. So, now you own your own land... you can build your store, and keep 100% of your profit. |
Adam Turk
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08-25-2006 16:09
interesting so basically it will cost only 75 a year to own land and a store. is that right?
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Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 2,175
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08-26-2006 01:26
Just rent land.
I rent on Nauru, the owner has a slew of SIMs, i know many who rent from him and have not had a problem. I definitely recommend him. |
Nowun Till
Anarchy in the UK Limited
Join date: 4 May 2006
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08-26-2006 06:09
Adam
There are people in SL who may have land they would be prepared to let out for a period of time for free, many do. Unfortunately, I won't be joining the queue to let you have land, as your response to one fo the posters does you no favours and makes me think that should I let you have land, if I decide I no longer wish you to have that land for free use, I would only be met with verbal abuse. Good luck with the project and I hope it works out, but this is an open forum and all your replies are read. |
Eispoo Vezina
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Join date: 6 Jul 2006
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08-26-2006 06:21
Hello Adam
Hope this helps a bit. Owning Land You need a premium account. Pros: - It's YOUR land. - First time landowners can buy 'firstland' for CHEAP! $512L for a 512m2 parcel. - Build a home or store, edit land, set your own rules. - When you reg. for a premium account, you'll get a 'one time' signup bonus + a weekly stipend of 400L/week Cons: - You'll need to dish out $$ for a premium account. Yearly offers better deal. - You do have to renew, so if you go for the yearly rate, you renew each year. - You have to pay a tier rate for any additional land you acquire. See link for rates. http://secondlife.com/whatis/landpricing.php ============================= Renting Land You DO NOT need a premium account. Pros: - Saves you from initially dishing out money for a premium account. - You can rent weekly/monthly ....what ever the rental terms are set at. - Furnish your home or build a home, depends on land/rental terms/landlord. - It's good to rent just to see whats out there first....how things work. Cons: - You're a renter so you need to pay weekly/monthly rental fees to your landlord. - If you're late with your rent, the landlord has the power to evict you. - If you violate the zoning rules or rental agreement you can be evicted. - Zoning laws set by your landlord may restrict certain things - heavy scripts etc. - Zoning laws set by your landlord may restict the use of the land -- commercial/residential. If you can afford to buy a premium account, go for it! You'll get a weekly stipend so that you'll be able to buy stuff for your house/store etc. Also being able to have your own lil parcel of land without having to pay rent or tier on it is a nice incentive. Plus you set your own rules. Unless you are working, selling creations, or buying money from LindenX, you'll may have a hard time keeping up with your rental fee. **Important** - When you do buy land, buy firstland FIRST! You can only do this once and it will never be offered to you again. - Make sure you look for $512L for 512m2 and not only the word 'firstland'. - You can resell your firstland to make a decent profit. Buy it for 512L and set it for sale for 2.5K+. Check your area to see what others are selling theirs for. If you're still confused or curious, hold off a bit and get to know the community/economy. EispoO |
Cottonteil Muromachi
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08-26-2006 06:32
I have a great idea for a few stores that will bring tons of people in. Heh heh heh heh. |
Madame Maracas
Not who you think I am...
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My 2L on all 'o this ...
08-26-2006 06:35
Adam,
Introducing oneself to the larger forum audience w/a less than thick-skinned, tolerant tone can open up a very large and persistent can of worms. Manners and respect are a valued commodity everywhere and in a limited input situation such as text-only, absolutely essential. The hazards of missed cues and misinterpretations when the "message" lacks the nuances of facial expression, vocal pitch and tone are many. Much can be repaired with, oops, sorry, thank you, etc. That being said, there are many ways to get going with shops and businesses in SL. There are yet no - to - low rent mall stalls out there, I've seen them, pu out to help developing designers get a foothold in the SL marketplace. Another thing to consider is producing product and simply posting to one of the online markets like slexchange & slboutique, you'll need to find a place to put the lil prim servers, but won't need a prim and mortar shop per se, and can get some pretty decent exposure that way. Depending upon whatever your ideas are, you might find contests being held in the events listing that you might enter, sometimes venues give away stall space/time or other methods of exposure as prizes. Also, depending upon where your skill set lies, you might find that a payment in kind method of exchange might garner more probable responses. If you're a scripter/builder/promoter, offer to do contract work in exchange for the resources your benefactor might provide. Or if you have RL resources/skills to trade, web design, graphics, server space, the list goes on ... to provide or share, that might interest someone. There are bunches of folks in SL that collaborate in as many ways as one can think of but usually there's a quid pro quo that is a bit clearer than possible profit for an outlay, especially when one is new to the world, not an established talent/known quantity. Another way to view it is why should someone invest in something you are apparently not willing to back yourself? (and yes it can be that you lack the resources, etc. but the question would have to be asked by anyone looking over a prospective investment) Taking that a step further, have you/would you draw up a prospectus & business plan? Presenting the project in a more professional manner with the risks, needs and benefits fully outlined certainly would go a long way to assist both you and your potential partners in finding a proper match. (not to say you've not done this, just didn't mention that you had) And, to that end, I'm only speaking out of extensive RL and SL experience at running businesses, having made up prospectus', business plans and sucessfully having the pitch sell/engage partners, RL & SL. At the very least, outlining the goals, needs and possibilities of the business will clarify your purpose to yourself, and those around you. Here's hoping that a few lil communication hiccups don't keep you from further interactions and positive contributions to the larger SL experience! _____________________
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Dillon Morenz
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08-26-2006 06:41
God you guys are nice.
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Slingo Checker
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08-27-2006 08:03
God you guys are nice. ![]() I think they are using the "kill'em with kindness" routine. |
Chronic Skronski
SL Live Musician
Join date: 23 Jun 2006
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08-27-2006 14:02
I just found this thread - oh man. Small risk? The OP does not know (or "no", as he puts it):
- What a prim is: /108/63/132663/1.html (also in two other forum categories) - If you can rent without being premium: /139/3b/132521/1.html - The point of building a home: /108/73/132667/1.html - How to join a group (!!!): /108/19/132752/1.html - What FPS and MMORPG stands for: /108/fb/132808/1.html - If there are hotels in SL: /108/6f/132976/1.html - If there are schools in SL: /108/a6/132982/1.html - How to make clothes: /109/2e/132981/1.html - Where he can sit in a camping chair without getting idle-time logged out: /108/dc/133071/1.html - How to make "alpha textures": /109/3f/133091/1.html - How to write a script that makes him money: /54/6f/133146/1.html Any attempt to steer him to the "search" features in-world or in the forum is met with rude replies, insults, and namecalling - accusing us of not being helpful, but he would rather sit in a camping chair than learn. I agree with someone in another thread - I also think we have a minor on our hands, and I would not give this guy a bit of help after what I have read in this thread. _____________________
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Cottonteil Muromachi
Abominable
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08-27-2006 16:27
I agree with someone in another thread - I also think we have a minor on our hands, and I would not give this guy a bit of help after what I have read in this thread. Aww. Don't be so harsh. The person might grow up to become the leader of the free world someday. |
Mobius Hashimoto
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08-29-2006 09:24
i'm with Chronic Skronski, doesn't convince me to start a business with him which i'm going to, i think the OP has alot to learn before partnership
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Mia Winthorpe
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08-29-2006 23:35
Aww. Don't be so harsh. The person might grow up to become the leader of the free world someday. ROFLMAO ...and the rest is history...umm..present...ugh... better get back to work. When the forums close, I'll actually have to start doing something at work ![]() _____________________
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