Open Spaces Announcement & Talk with M and Jack Linden

Sheesh you people are stupid.
Oh yeah, LL is going to read a bunch of posts that are offensive with only 1 in 100 actually trying to conduct a dialog, and then when it is pointed out that you are all acting like asses, the reasonable ones leave and now we have a thread full of nitwits that think being offensive on the forum is some magic spell that will change LL's ledgers to suddenly show a profit if they do what you want.
Grow up. This is only the adult SL we are talking about, so please pretend you are old enough to be here.

Pot, meet kettle.

Well Lissa - apart from the fact that I don't think one should call ones fellow man/woman 'stupid', I agree with you...

I have to laugh at all these people who are now saying they would be happy with open space sims with 1875prims.

I think LL must have a psychologist on the payroll.

Good move.....offer the customer increase OS from 1875prim to 3750prims increase the price....when they complain offer them 750prim for the same price you offered them the 3750 prims and they will complain and request the 1875 prims at the new price lol..so now LL is back at getting more money for their original OSS product lol

also a strategy used in business...great negotiating ploy lol

I don't see where people are saying anything of the sort. It's the way it was handled that is the issue. A lot of us have seen various strategies over the years, and some of us remember a time when we might have KNOWN we were taking a gamble with SL - these days there seems to be little gamble.

Qie thanks for your post re Homestead. I am not sure if this is more wishful thinking or if you are right that this is some obscure hint. If it IS some obscure hint then frankly that makes me, personally, even less interested in giving them my hard earned money. I could be buying lingerie rl with that!

Actually, I don't see many offensive posts here, bu tmay be I bought my prim eyes in anoher world ))))))))

At the end of the day, those looking for something new and maybe a bit scary will move on. That's the end of churn here and the start of herd ... pure herd.

Your link may well be useful to a lot of people (goes to look).

Pictures please

i still yet to see a change for people who cant afford such high prices to get land of thier own. renting out from other people is fine but you cant control nabiors of your renters.

i personaly was hoping out of this a even smaller prim rate of sim would be open for everyone to use (half a open sim) as where a few friends.

I personalie wanted to make a large japanese/asian sim with a few low prim houses my main store and lot of trees and things of that nature, but reading the update then new an dimproved rules i'd be paying out the.. well you get the idea...

now not being so egotistic about it - these are a fair arrangements and are a good way to keep people from having massive cubs and malls and actualy making money off of sl's open sims.


My sugestion for helping the little people:
mini sims like the open sims but much cheaper, and you must be aproved for by ll, and you are only allowed to have 1 and if you own no other sims - if the sim is 'overused' you get a three strikes your out of a sim till 'set date' forcing people to use personal ideanitation will keep people from making alts to uptane more then one of these sims.

riging traffic :
I hate this idea... because what if your simple romatic ocean or garden is popular and you get alot of traffic? will you suddenly make it where only so many people can vist a day? - why not just make screach differint for each type of sim

all in all - My main issue with mianland is if i wanted a lot of it (becasue i cant affoid a whole sim) the lots are very tiny, unlike open sims lots are larger and roomy. i personaly like size over prims - now i know ll cant control this selling and renting of tiny lots but perhaps they can? just my collection of whining and complaints - i understand they it's not a godo idea to jsut give land to everyone it whould be costly and for people who mis-use sims lagy, but people need to be given a chance (and i not talking about the middle of nowhere where you have 3 empty lots a sex shop, a ad farm, a car dealership, and a tacostand where you set up shop cehaply but you'll enver sellanything places)
main point is you cant use opensims any more ebcasue it's againest the rules and with the price of homestends you migth as well go open sim (talkign as someone with low funds)

I personaly have minis shops set up all over the place - but when you have been building as long as i have even longer. you want somethign of your own. for now I'm alright - but i'm sure many others are not.

/me thinks this is still bait & switch =_=

Thats why i posted it

http://www.olgexchange.com/profiles/blogs/45000-prim-challange-answered

You make some excellent points there. Shame they probably won't be listened to.

hey jeep, how are you doing?

* January 5, 2009 – non-compliant Openspaces will transition to Homesteads and the maintenance fees will go from $75 to $95 per month. We will offer an educational discount to qualified educators on the new Homestead product. The discount amount will be the same as Private Regions, roughly 30%.

* July 2009 — the maintenance fees for Homesteads will go from $95 to $125 per month

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

I do not understand how cutting and original prim count of 3750 down to 750 can be considered fair? And for the same price! The original purchase price and tier fees were set with that prim count and usage. 1/4 of a region for a fair price, something a resident could afford and still have an amazing experience here. Now you want to jack the price up to where only the elite can afford to enjoy the benefits.

I do not see a corresponding value to the price structure. You get nothing (750) for the price of a quarter region, you get a quarter of the prims for (3750) for almost half the cost of a region tier (125)

There needs to be some fine tuning of the prices or the restrictions placed on the OS, homestead, etc. the current situation is unacceptable to me, I bought open spaces under what appears to be a "Bait and Switch" tactic by the owners.

I'd like to know if the price of the parcel I'm renting at the moment will increase. That´s all. Can someone unswer me that?

Best regards,

Ranma

Although I have one currently, if they do decide to sell without the 1 full sim requirement then I would likely purchase one directly from them instead as most do from through a 3rd party. However, I can also see this as another way of slicing into the private estate land baron's market.

1. With respect to the premium membership, they can make this a requirement like they do now if you want to own mainland.

2. Make this premium membership a requirement and reduce the monthly stipend for new subscribers.

3. Eliminate the premium membership altogether.

But they may drive more folks from the mainland even more.

You will have to ask the person that you are renting it from what they are intending to do as no one here can answer that for you I'm afraid.

You need to talk to who you are renting it from. It's their call.

Lol - taking this to IM

I do not understand how cutting and original prim count of 3750 down to 750 can be considered fair? And for the same price! The original purchase price and tier fees were set with that prim count and usage. 1/4 of a region for a fair price, something a resident could afford and still have an amazing experience here. Now you want to jack the price up to where only the elite can afford to enjoy the benefits.

I do not see a corresponding value to the price structure. You get nothing (750) for the price of a quarter region, you get a quarter of the prims for (3750) for almost half the cost of a region tier (125)

There needs to be some fine tuning of the prices or the restrictions placed on the OS, homestead, etc. the current situation is unacceptable to me, I bought open spaces under what appears to be a "Bait and Switch" tactic by the owners.[/QUOTE]

Know the irony?

If they had said "Look guys - we have massively gotten bogged down with the capability of supporting these. We are looking at two options, one is to reduce the capability on each OS and the other is a price hike" people would have not reacted this way. Well some would, but the majority of us would have understood.

I whould! but i whouldnt pay no 50 bucks for it.. piff I'd go play WoW.

25 or cheaper and i'd be sold.

Yea, but at lest others at the same level will read.. todays struggling nuubs might become tomarrows LLs...

And for what you are paying now you could have a whole sim elsewhere

And yes absolutely right. I have no doubt this story is of great interest to the various companies out there.

Ever wondered why the updates no longer tell you what has been fixed with each release of the viewer? (Not necessarily linked, I know).